Implications of a Trump presidency for DC schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully he'll keep the vouchers going and dramatically expand the program so people have viable choices and want to stay in DC.

Lets say you get a $10K voucher. Where will you go?

Any parochial school. Which is a heck of a lot better than any DCPS.

Yes, well, there is a long wait list of kids who don't need vouchers to attend at the two that are decent. So you don't get in. Now where will you go?

Perhaps it will make it easier for the middle class to segregate themselves into a class of $20k private schools that are only better in that they won't have the poors in them.

Resegregation for the win!

[Anonymous]

DC will decline as it won't be cool to be here in his administration. For every SJW who comes to DC to fight his policies, there will be two or three young people who move instead to other cities. The wealthy suburbs will thrive with the tax cuts, particularly Bethesda and McLean. Great Falls and Potomac will be hot once again.

[Anonymous]

^^^^ What do you call Bethesda, Arlington, McLean, Poolesville? Yes, the wealthy suburbs filter out the BS of no safety and shitty academics that you get in DCPS. So instead of those people leaving and taking their tax money with them, why not figure out a way to keep them here so the city can grow? Or do you prefer inner-city decay?

A lot of salaries at 1200 1st Street NE would be better used to fund vouchers rather than the current income stream to the suburbs where those DC workers live -> because they in DCPS Central would NEVER use DCPS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully he'll keep the vouchers going and dramatically expand the program so people have viable choices and want to stay in DC.

Lets say you get a $10K voucher. Where will you go?

Any parochial school. Which is a heck of a lot better than any DCPS.

Yes, well, there is a long wait list of kids who don't need vouchers to attend at the two that are decent. So you don't get in. Now where will you go?

Perhaps it will make it easier for the middle class to segregate themselves into a class of $20k private schools that are only better in that they won't have the poors in them.

Resegregation for the win!

Where will these new private schools be in DC? Tuition of $20K x 500 students. Where is the building? What is the operating cost?

[Anonymous]

I can see some positives. surely policies for charters will be affected. Perhaps a federal law driving more money to them will help some of the better performing charters in DC. The losers will be those in Wards 7 and 8 who now have even worse neighborhood schools and can only fall back on Rocketship. The upshot will be that the Charter Board will have more power, so if you care, that seems like a good place to focus reform efforts (eg ensuring the quality of charters, equal access to different types of teaching philosophies, preventing self dealing over student services. One place to start might be requiring a certain level of per pupil spending so as to prevent charters from becoming profit centers).

As far as vouchers go, there really is a huge supply side problem in DC. I don't see a bunch of new 10-20k/yr schools popping up unless there is some organized movement to establish them ... and that energy seems to be channelled into charters. But I guess it's conceivable that sophisticated charter chains could tweak their models and go private. Basis runs privates and charters. I strongly suspect that it pays better to be a charter in DC than a private charging the kind of tuition that would be taking advantage of vouchers. There already would be a huge demand for privates charging 10-25 k in DC but they just don't exist. So I don't think there's a market.

Common Core and extreme testing will go away somehow. That could be good news.

The ADA and IDEA are not going anywhere. However, I could see conservative governors pushing for more local control of special ed via a reduction in federally mandated due process protections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully he'll keep the vouchers going and dramatically expand the program so people have viable choices and want to stay in DC.

Lets say you get a $10K voucher. Where will you go?

Any parochial school. Which is a heck of a lot better than any DCPS.

Yes, well, there is a long wait list of kids who don't need vouchers to attend at the two that are decent. So you don't get in. Now where will you go?

Perhaps it will make it easier for the middle class to segregate themselves into a class of $20k private schools that are only better in that they won't have the poors in them.

Resegregation for the win!

That's exactly what wealthy AAs already do. Why would you oppose poorer ones from following them?

[Anonymous]

The implications is we need to prepare our school leaders to have a spine and protect their students and families from anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim actions by our government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can see some positives. surely policies for charters will be affected. Perhaps a federal law driving more money to them will help some of the better performing charters in DC. The losers will be those in Wards 7 and 8 who now have even worse neighborhood schools and can only fall back on Rocketship. The upshot will be that the Charter Board will have more power, so if you care, that seems like a good place to focus reform efforts (eg ensuring the quality of charters, equal access to different types of teaching philosophies, preventing self dealing over student services. One place to start might be requiring a certain level of per pupil spending so as to prevent charters from becoming profit centers).

As far as vouchers go, there really is a huge supply side problem in DC. I don't see a bunch of new 10-20k/yr schools popping up unless there is some organized movement to establish them ... and that energy seems to be channelled into charters. But I guess it's conceivable that sophisticated charter chains could tweak their models and go private. Basis runs privates and charters. I strongly suspect that it pays better to be a charter in DC than a private charging the kind of tuition that would be taking advantage of vouchers. There already would be a huge demand for privates charging 10-25 k in DC but they just don't exist. So I don't think there's a market.

Common Core and extreme testing will go away somehow. That could be good news.

The ADA and IDEA are not going anywhere. However, I could see conservative governors pushing for more local control of special ed via a reduction in federally mandated due process protections.

Federal for IDEA - which has never been sufficient - will be reduced. School districts will need to make up the difference somehow.

[Anonymous]

You doomsdayers make me laugh (I'm just trying not to point while I'm doing so).

There will be no change.

Get a grip, Larla.

[Anonymous]

Trump is very likely to be a one-term wonder. Sweeping change in education just doesn't happen in four years.

DC is already packed with charters and is an urban leader in affording parents school choice (er, school chance), but suitable affordable buildings are in very short supply, and there's little room for growth. Charter growth will mainly be seen outside DC.

I just can't see much changing under Trump. DC might have to return to a DC-CAS type test based on the Common Core. Who really cares.

The momentum for young people to move into the District extends far beyond who's in power. The vast majority of DC residents who've arrived in the last decade haven't worked for the GW or Obama administrations! They've worked work for non-profits, media outlets, Reps, Senators, universities, tech start-ups, federal agencies that aren't going away, as defense contractors, you name it. The influx will slow, but won't flatline or dip.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is very likely to be a one-term wonder. Sweeping change in education just doesn't happen in four years.

DC is already packed with charters and is an urban leader in affording parents school choice (er, school chance), but suitable affordable buildings are in very short supply, and there's little room for growth. Charter growth will mainly be seen outside DC.

I just can't see much changing under Trump. DC might have to return to a DC-CAS type test based on the Common Core. Who really cares.

The momentum for young people to move into the District extends far beyond who's in power. The vast majority of DC residents who've arrived in the last decade haven't worked for the GW or Obama administrations! They've worked work for non-profits, media outlets, Reps, Senators, universities, tech start-ups, federal agencies that aren't going away, as defense contractors, you name it. The influx will slow, but won't flatline or dip.

I do think DC TAG is likely to go away ... I never really counted on it. Perhaps DC and MD need to come to some sort of agreement for discounts for DC students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, this is the kicker that is influencing our move out of DC. We were already considering it because our run with DCPS has been sub-par to this point. We're done stressing over the education offerings here. And now with Trump coming in we, EOTP liberals, just don't feel as tied to DC. Luckily our federal jobs have some flexibility so we're headed to the greener (and far less expensive) pastures of the midwest.

K, bye!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is very likely to be a one-term wonder. Sweeping change in education just doesn't happen in four years.

DC is already packed with charters and is an urban leader in affording parents school choice (er, school chance), but suitable affordable buildings are in very short supply, and there's little room for growth. Charter growth will mainly be seen outside DC.

I just can't see much changing under Trump. DC might have to return to a DC-CAS type test based on the Common Core. Who really cares.

The momentum for young people to move into the District extends far beyond who's in power. The vast majority of DC residents who've arrived in the last decade haven't worked for the GW or Obama administrations! They've worked work for non-profits, media outlets, Reps, Senators, universities, tech start-ups, federal agencies that aren't going away, as defense contractors, you name it. The influx will slow, but won't flatline or dip.

With a Republican Congress and the pent up anger at many public schools, I wouldn't be so confident. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Trump and the Republicans generally, any change couldn't hurt. With my feelings toward DCPS, I say let DC be the petri dish - isn't going to get any worse.

[Anonymous]

Sure could. You haven't been here long, have you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully he'll keep the vouchers going and dramatically expand the program so people have viable choices and want to stay in DC.

Lets say you get a $10K voucher. Where will you go?

Any parochial school. Which is a heck of a lot better than any DCPS.

Yes, well, there is a long wait list of kids who don't need vouchers to attend at the two that are decent. So you don't get in. Now where will you go?

Perhaps it will make it easier for the middle class to segregate themselves into a class of $20k private schools that are only better in that they won't have the poors in them.

Resegregation for the win!

How new and dumb are you? DC has been resegregating for decades.