| I do think there is value to meeting in person with colleagues, but the problem is that in many workplaces you don’t do that even in the office because the people you actually collaborate with are in other places. I just turned down a job at a FAANG because they have a hard 3 days in office policy, even though the recruiter told me that I wouldn’t have any teammates in my office, and one of the people I spoke to told me she badges in and then leaves straight away, because checking in is monitored, but leaving is not and since she doesn’t work with anyone in that office, there is no reason to stay (and it’s actually harder to work there than at home as you have to find spots to take calls, etc). What a waste of time! |
Weird that you think the millions of people working in offices don’t work real jobs. I agree that plenty of people don’t work in jobs that allow for remote work though. They should probably stay off threads like this, since they don’t have anything relevant to contribute. |
This is another big part of it. Not only do you get called back but you get called back into a less functional workspace than you have at home. We are hybrid, thankfully, and I have an office. But even still I leave early some days to avoid PM rush hour and just finish my day at home. And I’m not the only one. |
Agree this is not true and I know many people still working remote- myself included. Large contracting company. |
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I am hybrid and work in healthcare in an office type role |
I work for a GSIB and same. They've downsized office space and being on calls all the time with dozens of other people also on calls within earshot is painful. On the rare instances I do collaborate with colleagues in office we get yelled at for disrupting others by speaking in the open workspace. There's like three focus rooms so that's not a viable option most of the time. |
+1 NP who commutes five days a week and has since 2021. I love when people work from home- my commute sucks when they have to come into the office. And PP who wrote about feds back 14 months full in person- that isn’t the flex you think it is. Many of us have been back for 5 years or never stopped commuting. Grow up. |
| Meh, my job is 100% in person every day, so can't offer any empathy to those that whine about having to do the same |
I work 70 hours a week and have a lot of empathy for those who have to do the same. |
| The new Fidelity mandate may be a attempt at culling staff. I have one sibling there and another at a different big financial firm. The Fidelity sibling hadn't witnessed much downsizing, whereas the other one said he sees a long list of layoffs eery month. |
I lost my job at Fidelity 2 years ago because of this. I was hired as a remote employee during covid times. There was no physical office in the area where I lived. Fidelity asked me to go to one of their offices alternate weeks on my own dime. I obviously couldn't agree to it forcing me to quit the company. I was one of the high performing persons but that didn't matter. Policy was policy. |
I’ve seen this happen at my org recently. We had a manager who was laid back and leadership replaced them with two lackeys who’ve started clamping down on remote work and micromanaging everyone’s work arrangements. They’ve already lost one high performer who wasn’t going to disrupt their life to move closer to the office just to report to hoteling stations. It’s really about money. They don’t give a shit if you’re a top performer. You’re replaceable and even better, replaceable with a cheaper new hire. |
This is the only answer. |
DP. Step 1. cause attrition via forced RTO Step 2: once right sized, then start allowing WFH again and eventually reduce office space overhead. |