Are you relieved to be done with MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the size of the county is a major contributing factor to why people are so dissatisfied. There’s so much diversity of backgrounds and viewpoints and it’s extremely difficult (impossible, really) to come up with a solution that meets the needs of everyone. The leadership not being great just makes things worse. We also have an extremely high striver/entitled population in the close to DC suburbs which also cranks up the complaints. Friends in New England suburbs have had such a different experience for their children in public school and I regret getting stuck (work) in this area. Ready to move on…

But most people are happy with MCPS IRL.
The loud minority on DCUM (about 10 of them) doesn't represent the vast majority of MCPS families.

Most of the parents I know IRL have complaints. They're usually not extreme, but especially after the abundance of snow days, calendar shuffles, etc. this past year, the mood I see is mixed rather than positive.

Everybody has a complaint, but research shows most parents are happy with MCPS.

A 2024 resident survey showed that the percentage of residents rating k-12 education in MoCo went down from 82% in 2018 to 68% in 2024. Let's assume this is reflective of attitudes among current MCPS parents (the survey was of residents so this might also be reflective of people whose MCPS experiences are not current). If we assume that, you are correct that "most parents are happy with MCPS". However, it would appear that a large and increasing minority of parents do not think MCPS is good, much less excellent. MCPS should stop dismissing people who have concerns as "privileged" (the irony is they also ignore unprivileged people).

Everybody knows that survey responses go up when people are unhappy, and most people won’t respond to a survey if they don’t have anything to complain about.

Satisfaction with schools is down since 2021 but the response rate in 2024 was higher than in 2021

https://montgomeryperspective.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Montgomery-County-Resident-Survey-Executive-Summary-CAO-to-Council-President.pdf

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Somehow I doubt that the majority of those who point to this survey to note decreasing (but overall positive) satisfaction in k-12 public education within MCPS will also note the plurality that agree MCPS should consider boundary changes to increase diversity or better utilize school capacity (41% somewhat or strongly agreeing, 26% somewhat or strongly disagreeing, and the remainder don't know/no opinion).

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Anonymous wrote:Somehow I doubt that the majority of those who point to this survey to note decreasing (but overall positive) satisfaction in k-12 public education within MCPS will also note the plurality that agree MCPS should consider boundary changes to increase diversity or better utilize school capacity (41% somewhat or strongly agreeing, 26% somewhat or strongly disagreeing, and the remainder don't know/no opinion).

Wrong, I was really disappointed that Taylor basically disregarded that factor in the Woodward and Crown studies. All he did was document the demographic impacts.

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Btw your need to discredit survey data by randomly and falsely attacking the person posting it as being against DEI is bizarre. Let's focus on the topic at hand which is about family satisfaction with MCPS.

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I'm also quite disgusted with MCPS's impulse to discredit anyone who criticizes them as being privileged and White. Many of the people I know who have had the worst experiences with MCPS are Black and Latino families. Some people seem to live under the delusion that thousands of Black and Brown kids are graduating not proficient in math and reading and their families are perfectly satisfied. GMAFB.

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Since boundary changes were brought up, the processes around who got preferences, agreements, and hearings with BOE members in keeping their boundaries was not fair. I regret signing on when asked to do this for my area, seeing how the process played out. And I support moving Wootton to Crown and think the parents were horrible to MCPS admin.

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Anonymous wrote:And fwiw back in the 80s and 90s parent volunteers were everywhere. Teachers had a lot of help.

Kids also from what I've seen can be on their best behavior when they know parents are around.

So you’re agreeing that the parents are the problem?

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Anonymous wrote:And fwiw back in the 80s and 90s parent volunteers were everywhere. Teachers had a lot of help.

Kids also from what I've seen can be on their best behavior when they know parents are around.

So you’re agreeing that the parents are the problem?

Specifically women who work outside the home and aren't available to provide free labor

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm also quite disgusted with MCPS's impulse to discredit anyone who criticizes them as being privileged and White. Many of the people I know who have had the worst experiences with MCPS are Black and Latino families. Some people seem to live under the delusion that thousands of Black and Brown kids are graduating not proficient in math and reading and their families are perfectly satisfied. GMAFB.

Taylor turns to the 2 men that comprise the Black and Brown Coalition to validate that he is a progressive multicultural white man choosing only the best on behalf of Black and Latino families. If Diego Uriburu and Byron Jones of the Black and Brown Coalition say it's OK for Taylor to do something, then that must be the case.

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I was at a private school for my children during Covid and am happy to be back at mcps.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the size of the county is a major contributing factor to why people are so dissatisfied. There’s so much diversity of backgrounds and viewpoints and it’s extremely difficult (impossible, really) to come up with a solution that meets the needs of everyone. The leadership not being great just makes things worse. We also have an extremely high striver/entitled population in the close to DC suburbs which also cranks up the complaints. Friends in New England suburbs have had such a different experience for their children in public school and I regret getting stuck (work) in this area. Ready to move on…

But most people are happy with MCPS IRL.
The loud minority on DCUM (about 10 of them) doesn't represent the vast majority of MCPS families.

Most of the parents I know IRL have complaints. They're usually not extreme, but especially after the abundance of snow days, calendar shuffles, etc. this past year, the mood I see is mixed rather than positive.

Everybody has a complaint, but research shows most parents are happy with MCPS.

A 2024 resident survey showed that the percentage of residents rating k-12 education in MoCo went down from 82% in 2018 to 68% in 2024. Let's assume this is reflective of attitudes among current MCPS parents (the survey was of residents so this might also be reflective of people whose MCPS experiences are not current). If we assume that, you are correct that "most parents are happy with MCPS". However, it would appear that a large and increasing minority of parents do not think MCPS is good, much less excellent. MCPS should stop dismissing people who have concerns as "privileged" (the irony is they also ignore unprivileged people).

Everybody knows that survey responses go up when people are unhappy, and most people won’t respond to a survey if they don’t have anything to complain about.

No. People don't complete surveys generally

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were done with MCPS 4 years ago. I understand why parents are giving a poor report card to MCPS and I wholeheartedly agree with them. However, MCPS was substandard even when it was doing well 25 years ago. Its just that it has become worse now.

I am comparing it entirely to the third world education system that educated me in my country of origin. In terms of facilities and resources, MCPS was pretty great from my immigrant view point. But in terms of education, curriculum, assessment, rigor, discipline, length of school year etc, MCPS was shockingly bad.

We were willing to spend money on private schools but the quality of education (especially in STEM) and the quality of teachers was far inferior to MCPS. Of course, private schools may get you network and connections etc...I don't know if that would have mattered to brown skinned immigrant children.

The real problem in MCPS is its administration and policies. And that creates a toxicity that permeates to the day to day environment in all schools.

We put all of our time, effort and resources - to not only educate our kids at home after they came back from school for their academic and intellectual advancement...BUT...to also mitigate the negative impact of what the MCPS administration and policies were doing to the education of our children.

My children had a lovely time in MCPS. Their teachers and classmates were awesome. But, we did our own supplementing to engineer a great experience, environment and outcome for them. It did not happen automagically. We loved being in MCPS, but I was also actively snow-plowing the academic path for my kids, so they did not get negatively impacted by MCPS.

This person has posted for years about the supposed weakness of private school education in DC, but has absolutely no clue. Stick to what you know, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the size of the county is a major contributing factor to why people are so dissatisfied. There’s so much diversity of backgrounds and viewpoints and it’s extremely difficult (impossible, really) to come up with a solution that meets the needs of everyone. The leadership not being great just makes things worse. We also have an extremely high striver/entitled population in the close to DC suburbs which also cranks up the complaints. Friends in New England suburbs have had such a different experience for their children in public school and I regret getting stuck (work) in this area. Ready to move on…

But most people are happy with MCPS IRL.
The loud minority on DCUM (about 10 of them) doesn't represent the vast majority of MCPS families.

Most of the parents I know IRL have complaints. They're usually not extreme, but especially after the abundance of snow days, calendar shuffles, etc. this past year, the mood I see is mixed rather than positive.

Everybody has a complaint, but research shows most parents are happy with MCPS.

A 2024 resident survey showed that the percentage of residents rating k-12 education in MoCo went down from 82% in 2018 to 68% in 2024. Let's assume this is reflective of attitudes among current MCPS parents (the survey was of residents so this might also be reflective of people whose MCPS experiences are not current). If we assume that, you are correct that "most parents are happy with MCPS". However, it would appear that a large and increasing minority of parents do not think MCPS is good, much less excellent. MCPS should stop dismissing people who have concerns as "privileged" (the irony is they also ignore unprivileged people).

Everybody knows that survey responses go up when people are unhappy, and most people won’t respond to a survey if they don’t have anything to complain about.

Or they think it won't matter...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And fwiw back in the 80s and 90s parent volunteers were everywhere. Teachers had a lot of help.

Kids also from what I've seen can be on their best behavior when they know parents are around.

So you’re agreeing that the parents are the problem?

Parents have been systematically shut out from classrooms by teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm also quite disgusted with MCPS's impulse to discredit anyone who criticizes them as being privileged and White. Many of the people I know who have had the worst experiences with MCPS are Black and Latino families. Some people seem to live under the delusion that thousands of Black and Brown kids are graduating not proficient in math and reading and their families are perfectly satisfied. GMAFB.

Taylor turns to the 2 men that comprise the Black and Brown Coalition to validate that he is a progressive multicultural white man choosing only the best on behalf of Black and Latino families. If Diego Uriburu and Byron Jones of the Black and Brown Coalition say it's OK for Taylor to do something, then that must be the case.

LOL, thought it was the other way around, with TT bribing them persuading/compelling them to provide vocal "support"