what schools can a kid with a 1490.....
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Anonymous
They're basically safety schools for low achievers.
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Anonymous
You do realize that that is not causation but correlation, right? It all comes down to holistic review, how strong this applicant is based on ALL parts of their application. Statistically, 1580 scorers have a 3x chance: because they are strong in other aspects as well, it just happens that they also got 1580. (which is understandable, a strong candidate typically is strong in many aspects). In pure isolation, 1580 or 1490, there is no difference, both validate academic readiness. Getting a 1580 alone would not enhance your chance compared to 1490. Like, not at all. Getting a 1490 would not decrease your chance either. |
Anonymous
| Try Holy Cross-top 25 LAC. Might get some merit aid. |
Anonymous
I don't know what to tell you, you are wrong. The data is the data. |
Anonymous
A 1580 with nothing else going on is not going to have an advantage over a kid with a 1490 and great ECs and leadership. And to put this into perspective, the difference is 2 or 3 questions on the SAT. No college these days is choosing the high SAT score over far more interesting students that are rolling with something above 1400 or 32 and can actually contribute something to the university community. We are not China or India or Korea or Japan. Test scores are a part of things, but the reason American universities are so successful is because of "holistic" admissions. Lot more talent that way. |
Anonymous
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Georgetown is a Match
Emory, ND, or WashU and low Reach. |
Anonymous
| If you have only given the SAT one time, I would try again. |
Anonymous
| ED to UVA |
Anonymous
Michigan UVA Cal UCLA Georgetown ND WashU Take your pick. |
Anonymous
Getting a 1580 means 2 to 4 questions wrong. A 1490 means 10 to 14 questions wrong. They are not the same score. Ask Caltech about its buckets, Dartmouth and Harvard. The data clearly shows a massive advantage for a 1580 scorer compared to a 1490. |
Anonymous
No blanket statement. Look to see how the CDS ranks test scores (is it very important, important or considered). That will tell you where your 1580 will move the needle. This thread (from the Activities post) was helpful: ______________________________________________________________________________ This may be true at non-T25 spots, but where I am a reader, it's the 2nd thing we look at it. It's how to frame all the kids who look EXACTLY the same from a high school. It's actually one of the first ways to stand out. Even before the essays. Do something other people aren't doing and do it well/deeply. So, I disagree that it's not important. It is important, if only to show your passion, why you do it. I think people over-rotate on the same 10-15 activities: no one cares about your debate or your Varsity soccer or your DECA. Especially because most kids just sign up to these clubs because they feel they have to. They don't really care deeply about any of it. Better to be an EMT. A blacksmith. Restoring vintage baseball paraphernalia. Even tinkering with old watches. Or an artist restoring traditional textiles and artifacts. Look to see how a school treats "Extracurricular Activities and "Talent/Ability" on the CDS. If they say, "Very Important" - it means they absolutely look at it (and often before "Important" or "Considered" - like Class Rank, GPA, Recommendations, Application Essay or Test Scores) - and maybe look at it early. UChicago CDS: https://bpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/voices.uchicago...-2025_to_publish.pdf Vanderbilt CDS: https://www.vanderbilt.edu/dsa/common-data-set/ Duke CDS: https://provost.duke.edu/sites/default/files/CDS-2023-24-FINAL.pdf Northwestern CDS: https://www.enrollment.northwestern.edu/data/2024-2025.pdf WashU CDS: https://washu.edu/app/uploads/2025/06/2024-2025-WashU-CDS.pdf |
Anonymous
I would add Emory and Rice. They like test scores. |
Anonymous
Just checked. Caltech: Test Score - Very Important ECs - Important Talent/Ability - Considered Dartmouth: Test Scores - Very Important ECs - Very Important Talent/Ability - Important Harvard (looks like they don't want to disclose their formula): Test Scores - Considered ECs - Considered Talent/Ability - Considered COMPARE TO THE TEST OPTIONAL SCHOOLS: Vanderbilt: Test Scores - Important ECs - Very Important Talent/Ability - Important UVA: Test Scores - Considered ECs - Important Talent/Ability - Important |
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Anonymous
| You are delusional if you think a 1490 is treated the same as a 1580. One is a score 3 out of 100 get. The other is 1 out of 1,000. |