Paying DC youth not to murder

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, the money would be well-spent to provide supervised recreational activities, job training, and meaningful job opportunities— all of which come with mentoring.

They did this in Baltimore and youth crime plummeted. But too many people don’t want to listen to solutions that don’t involve punishment. How would private prisons make money?

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Paying youth not to murder is insane.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, the money would be well-spent to provide supervised recreational activities, job training, and meaningful job opportunities— all of which come with mentoring.

They did this in Baltimore and youth crime plummeted. But too many people don’t want to listen to solutions that don’t involve punishment. How would private prisons make money?

Sigh. DC already has all of these programs, in spades. We've had them forever. Like, since before you were born.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

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Anonymous wrote:A practical approach would be to pay indigent women to be sterilized. Too many are unprepared, unwilling, and incapable of parenting children responsibly. Their spawn end up feral, behaving accordingly.

This is crazy, but if you really believe this it's puzzling you picked women (who carry a kid for 9 months) over men.

DP, but what’s “puzzling” is that you think people choose their sexual orientation.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not just juvie and prison? If we actually had punishments for committing underaged crimes (shoplifting! Car theft!), then they wouldn't graduate to murder.

You've clearly never spent time around kids in juvie. It's more a vicious cycle. They get into the system and then end up going back over and over again, until they graduate to adult prison.

“End up” If only they had some agency!

Have you ever seen what these kids' lives are like? They're often in foster care, they have absolutely no one watching out for them. In bad parts of town school discipline issues end up criminalized so kids are sent to juvie for things like fights in school. Then they have a record, making jobs or even the military harder. What life do you think these kids have.

This, of course, is a lie.

The reality is right now society writes off these children pretty much the second they are born. And you think it's surprising they are angry. We made them.

“We” didn’t make anything, unless you are referring to the bigotry of your pathetically low expectations.

Okay yeah, so you don't know anything. Google the school to prison pipeline.

I worked with these kids. Kids in the foster system are treated like absolute trash. By age 17, 50% of them have had an encounter with the criminal justice system. 20% of kids in the foster system end up homeless within 5 years of aging out.

If you think that's on the kids, something is wrong with you.

“had an encounter with the criminal justice system” do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?

Maybe their a**es could use an encounter with a swift kick.

It's a catch all term for arrests and incarceration but you're too lazy to Google.

The fact that you're fantasizing about physically harming foster children really isn't helping with the whole vibe of "psychopath who doesn't see foster kids as human".

99% certain the person you’re responding to considers themselves a “Christian.” They’ll lie and deny it now, of course, because anonymous message board. But they’re so very “Christ-like.” 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

So why are they getting tickets? Are you saying the cameras are wrong or that the violations are so low-level that they should be taken off the books or otherwise not enforced? Are you saying this is a "large city" or a "city with only 300,000" drivers? I'm not following. I see people running red lights and cutting people off multiple times a day every single day.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

People don't drive like maniacs in DC? I've been sitting at a red light behind two other cars to have some lunatic pull around everyone else, go squealing up the oncoming lane, blow through the red light and make a left without even pausing to look. I've seen people leaning on their horns screaming like lunatics at the car in front of them when it's stopped for pedestrians who have the walk sign lit and right of way to cross. I've seen cars go flying down residential streets going 60+ mph. There are definitely a crap load of lunatics and bad drivers. Also, I wonder if you are even from DC. DC may only have 300,000 drivers but anyone who spends any time at all on DC streets knows that 80% of the cars on DC streets have MD and VA tags. Many of those horrible drivers on DC streets aren't from DC. I think you clearly don't know what goes on here.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

Your math is off. The Chicago metro area has around 9 million people. The DMV metro area has 5.6 million people. The Chicago metro area is only 1.6 times bigger than the DC metro area.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

I'm fine with that. And they shouldn't charge poor people less, they should charge rich people more.

People drive like maniacs here. Who cares if they get tickets?

Actually, traffic deaths are *incredibly* rare in DC. You sound like Trump. Do you think DC is a "hellhole"? Do you also think everyone is getting murdered?

Where did you make that inference? I just don't care about people getting traffic tickets for moving violations. It's at the very bottom of the list of my concerns with the justice system.

People don't drive like maniacs here, at all. The streets are incredibly safe, especially for a large city. But somehow we still manage to hand out 3 million tickets to a city with only 300,000 drivers, but, at the same time, we search for reasons not to prosecute teenagers who beat random senior citizens to death. This why Trump is going after DC -- because some of the stuff we do is straight up crazy.

People don't drive like maniacs in DC? I've been sitting at a red light behind two other cars to have some lunatic pull around everyone else, go squealing up the oncoming lane, blow through the red light and make a left without even pausing to look. I've seen people leaning on their horns screaming like lunatics at the car in front of them when it's stopped for pedestrians who have the walk sign lit and right of way to cross. I've seen cars go flying down residential streets going 60+ mph. There are definitely a crap load of lunatics and bad drivers. Also, I wonder if you are even from DC. DC may only have 300,000 drivers but anyone who spends any time at all on DC streets knows that 80% of the cars on DC streets have MD and VA tags. Many of those horrible drivers on DC streets aren't from DC. I think you clearly don't know what goes on here.

I agree- I also see people pull around cars stopped at red lights, or cars stopped at stop signs. Regularly - not as a one-off.

I will say it's people from all 3 jurisdictions though. I have seen abysmal behavior from adults in luxury SUVs with DC plates

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How about we pay underage girls and boys not to pregnant?

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Anonymous wrote:Paying youth not to murder is insane.

It means murderers run the city.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a curious double standard on the left when it comes to traffic violations vs. violent crime. We throw the book at drivers. The city issues *millions* of tickets each year, many for minor violations. The attitude is that if you don't like it, then don't break the law. But with violent crime, people on the left are always looking for excuses not to punish the people involved. There's always some tortured reason why we can't enforce the law when it comes to violent crimes.

Not true. There’s a pretty substantial push not to enforce traffic laws of any kind for equity reasons.

DC issues 3.3 million tickets each year. That's twice as many tickets as Chicago. Chicago is four times bigger than DC, both in area and population.

Your math is off. The Chicago metro area has around 9 million people. The DMV metro area has 5.6 million people. The Chicago metro area is only 1.6 times bigger than the DC metro area.

Looking at the city limits, sweetie