Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is August and refuses to play down. I don’t know what we will do. She sees it as humiliating having to essentially repeat a grade. She is 10th grade so prime recruiting age next year. It stinks.
Definitely want to tryout out the smaller clubs in the next few months, they are generally more amenable to exceptions
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Anonymous wrote:I think one issue could be for August and September kids who went to school on time (VA side), now they have to repeat a year and will not play with the kids at the same grades.


I assume most clubs will treat this like grad year, as the point on the girls side is recruiting.
Clubs and leagues have made it clear, play on age, best of the best plays up. Grade not a factor.

You have no idea about this and are repeating what someone else said.

The truth is that playing with your grade makes the most sense when it comes to being recruited for college.
Don't shoot the messenger. What makes sense to you doesn't to someone else. ECNL in podcast and Arlington announced play on age except for the few amazing players that can even dominate up an age group, just like now. Now McLean agrees and others chiming in with same thing.

Ok then let yout young Aug/Sept player play down a grade in school. Pay full price for competitive soccer and watch your kid get ignored by college coaches when its time for recruitment.
When you get in charge of a team or league, you can make the rules. Until then, announcements are play on age, superstars play up.

No, when I pay the bills I make the decisions. Sorry coach.
Assuming this a joke, like the person saying MLSN is the best pro league ever

Yes you do pay the bills unless your kid is on some kind of scholorship. If clubs choose to play your kid on a grade down team go somewhere else. Its obvious they dont take college recruitment seriously. Its also obvious they dont value your kid or they wouldn't be screwing them over on a grade down team.
Still not your kid not your problem.
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Anonymous wrote:I think one issue could be for August and September kids who went to school on time (VA side), now they have to repeat a year and will not play with the kids at the same grades.


I assume most clubs will treat this like grad year, as the point on the girls side is recruiting.
Clubs and leagues have made it clear, play on age, best of the best plays up. Grade not a factor.

You have no idea about this and are repeating what someone else said.

The truth is that playing with your grade makes the most sense when it comes to being recruited for college.
Don't shoot the messenger. What makes sense to you doesn't to someone else. ECNL in podcast and Arlington announced play on age except for the few amazing players that can even dominate up an age group, just like now. Now McLean agrees and others chiming in with same thing.

Ok then let yout young Aug/Sept player play down a grade in school. Pay full price for competitive soccer and watch your kid get ignored by college coaches when its time for recruitment.
When you get in charge of a team or league, you can make the rules. Until then, announcements are play on age, superstars play up.

No, when I pay the bills I make the decisions. Sorry coach.
Assuming this a joke, like the person saying MLSN is the best pro league ever

Yes you do pay the bills unless your kid is on some kind of scholorship. If clubs choose to play your kid on a grade down team go somewhere else. Its obvious they dont take college recruitment seriously. Its also obvious they dont value your kid or they wouldn't be screwing them over on a grade down team.
Still not your kid not your problem.

You cant hide that playing down a grade screws players over. Parents are going to figure it out. It would be better to get in front of the issue instead of pretending it doesn't exist.
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Anonymous wrote:I think one issue could be for August and September kids who went to school on time (VA side), now they have to repeat a year and will not play with the kids at the same grades.


I assume most clubs will treat this like grad year, as the point on the girls side is recruiting.
Clubs and leagues have made it clear, play on age, best of the best plays up. Grade not a factor.

You have no idea about this and are repeating what someone else said.

The truth is that playing with your grade makes the most sense when it comes to being recruited for college.


The college recruiters know what grade a candidate is in regardless of their club team age group

Its not a mystery because the college coaches know who they're scouting.
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Anonymous wrote:I think one issue could be for August and September kids who went to school on time (VA side), now they have to repeat a year and will not play with the kids at the same grades.


I assume most clubs will treat this like grad year, as the point on the girls side is recruiting.
Clubs and leagues have made it clear, play on age, best of the best plays up. Grade not a factor.

You have no idea about this and are repeating what someone else said.

The truth is that playing with your grade makes the most sense when it comes to being recruited for college.


The college recruiters know what grade a candidate is in regardless of their club team age group

Its not a mystery because the college coaches know who they're scouting.

Ya, who wants a Senior playing against Juniors when theres 200 Seniors that would jump at the opportunity.

Give it a rest. Nobody wants a Trojan Horse.
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Anonymous wrote:I am clearly in the tiny minority

Whatever the age cutoff next year, my kid just shows up and plays in their current or new age group/team

I believe its called life changes. Something that they'll have to deal with in life going forward


Yeah. I get what you are saying. What age is your kid? Because I think that makes a pretty big difference in how this is dealt with and the emotions that go along with it. I am now going through this twice. The first time around was when everything was switched from previous SY type cutoffs to birthyear. That was when my DS was playing U10. He had a great team and we were looking forward to things, but suddenly when the teams changed to BY, my son was only one of 3 kids left on the team. All the other kids were moving "up" from what they thought was U11 to U12. There was a ton of scrambling to find them places. It was really a pretty big disruption because he had a pretty good group of kids and parents. While we obviously had no choice to move age groups, we weren't thrilled about it. That's my selfish opinion.

At the time, my DD was playing U-Little rec so it didn't matter for her, but now she is playing U17 ECNL. She's not going to be impacted at all because she's an early January B-Day and is in a good spot on her current team. But, there are plenty of players that will be impacted and it will be interested to see how things fall out. The grin it and bear it makes sense, but sometimes is just tough to do. Good Luck to all!


If it changes, it changes and there's nothing you can do about it

Tell the kids the truth and deal with the reality. Regardless of age.

If you get a new job or new house you'll easily tell the kid about those life changes
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Honest question, what do kids do who were held back in school and now age out of club before they have their senior year? Gap year or what??

There are a bunch of these kids at my local ECNL watering hole.
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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, what do kids do who were held back in school and now age out of club before they have their senior year? Gap year or what??

There are a bunch of these kids at my local ECNL watering hole.

You play with your age which is defined by the 8/1-7/31 eligibility window.
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Anonymous wrote:I think one issue could be for August and September kids who went to school on time (VA side), now they have to repeat a year and will not play with the kids at the same grades.


I assume most clubs will treat this like grad year, as the point on the girls side is recruiting.
Clubs and leagues have made it clear, play on age, best of the best plays up. Grade not a factor.

You have no idea about this and are repeating what someone else said.

The truth is that playing with your grade makes the most sense when it comes to being recruited for college.
Don't shoot the messenger. What makes sense to you doesn't to someone else. ECNL in podcast and Arlington announced play on age except for the few amazing players that can even dominate up an age group, just like now. Now McLean agrees and others chiming in with same thing.

Ok then let yout young Aug/Sept player play down a grade in school. Pay full price for competitive soccer and watch your kid get ignored by college coaches when its time for recruitment.
When you get in charge of a team or league, you can make the rules. Until then, announcements are play on age, superstars play up.

No, when I pay the bills I make the decisions. Sorry coach.
Assuming this a joke, like the person saying MLSN is the best pro league ever

Yes you do pay the bills unless your kid is on some kind of scholorship. If clubs choose to play your kid on a grade down team go somewhere else. Its obvious they dont take college recruitment seriously. Its also obvious they dont value your kid or they wouldn't be screwing them over on a grade down team.
Still not your kid not your problem.

You cant hide that playing down a grade screws players over. Parents are going to figure it out. It would be better to get in front of the issue instead of pretending it doesn't exist.
It doesn't. Being the youngest is always the bad scenario. July, June and May eat crow. Aug, Sep and Oct will be set up. Clubs and leagues got this. Play on age.
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Anonymous wrote:I think one issue could be for August and September kids who went to school on time (VA side), now they have to repeat a year and will not play with the kids at the same grades.


I assume most clubs will treat this like grad year, as the point on the girls side is recruiting.
Clubs and leagues have made it clear, play on age, best of the best plays up. Grade not a factor.

You have no idea about this and are repeating what someone else said.

The truth is that playing with your grade makes the most sense when it comes to being recruited for college.


The college recruiters know what grade a candidate is in regardless of their club team age group

Its not a mystery because the college coaches know who they're scouting.

Ya, who wants a Senior playing against Juniors when theres 200 Seniors that would jump at the opportunity.

Give it a rest. Nobody wants a Trojan Horse.
Soccer clubs will make the best teams, with generally older kids and not focus on grades as they have stated. It will be ok just like it is now. Accept SY as an improvement over BY for recruiting and move on. Everybody else did.
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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, what do kids do who were held back in school and now age out of club before they have their senior year? Gap year or what??

There are a bunch of these kids at my local ECNL watering hole.


The rules allow for trapped players because no system is perfect.
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Do misaligned kids get recruited? Or are they radioactive??
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Anonymous wrote:Honest question, what do kids do who were held back in school and now age out of club before they have their senior year? Gap year or what??

There are a bunch of these kids at my local ECNL watering hole.


The oldest age group is u19 so no one will age out unless they were held back twice.
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Anonymous wrote:Do misaligned kids get recruited? Or are they radioactive??


They have to put in the work just like anyone else. Contact coaches, highlight videos, attend ID camps. If a coach is interested and attending the showcase they will come see them just like they see anyone not misaligned on their list.
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Anonymous wrote:Do misaligned kids get recruited? Or are they radioactive??
Girls or boys?
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