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Anonymous wrote:Both of my kids have/had full scholarships. My son in law had full ride with two scholarships. He got a check every semester from the university from the overage of scholarship money. The school has amazing programs and all three recruited and working upon graduation. My kids turned down big name colleges to attend with scholarships. Many high stats kids are doing the same. I believe it’ll raise the school’s profile over the next few years.

Hope this helps.

I've never heard of a merit scholarship that covers CoA + and extra check in your bank account.

Alabama gives NMF full tuition and room and board for five years (this can include graduate work) plus $4k a year and a one time $2k payment for research or study abroad.

They also have a robust honors college program including some well respected cohort programs within the honors college for particularly outstanding students.

So they have to pay intelligent students to attend? Smacks of desperation

Your life smacks of desperation

DP

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both of my kids have/had full scholarships. My son in law had full ride with two scholarships. He got a check every semester from the university from the overage of scholarship money. The school has amazing programs and all three recruited and working upon graduation. My kids turned down big name colleges to attend with scholarships. Many high stats kids are doing the same. I believe it’ll raise the school’s profile over the next few years.

Hope this helps.

I've never heard of a merit scholarship that covers CoA + and extra check in your bank account.

Alabama gives NMF full tuition and room and board for five years (this can include graduate work) plus $4k a year and a one time $2k payment for research or study abroad.

They also have a robust honors college program including some well respected cohort programs within the honors college for particularly outstanding students.

So they have to pay intelligent students to attend? Smacks of desperation

Why would it matter to you? I don’t get this thread. If super smart kids want to go there that is less competition for your superstar and whatever school you want to fork over $100k a year for.

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I have a friend who intentionally chose Alabama because she wanted independence from her parents. She moved from Europe and her family was horrified. So it does have some purpose for some. It’s cultural, it’s right for some but not universally appealing.
The point is that OP is wondering how to convince son and spouse to consider Alabama option. If son isn’t interested, it’s an uphill battle… I’m sure you can find a good scholarship for a more appropriate school (for him) like GWU or similar up here.

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Liberals have nothing better to do but rant.They have no intention of sending kids to southern schools. Most of their kids wouldn’t know the difference between a football and a tennis ball.

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My NMSF submitted his application last night!

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals have nothing better to do but rant.They have no intention of sending kids to southern schools. Most of their kids wouldn’t know the difference between a football and a tennis ball.

Huh? Liberal here with a kid at Ohio State. We are a huge football family. You should come out of your bubble 😂

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Anonymous wrote:I just couldn’t in good conscience send my DD to Alabama. I’m sure the actual university is fine, but politically and socially I just couldn’t do it. They have a near total abortion ban; one of the strictest in the nation. They are also one of the most religious states in the nation, with 58% of the population attending church regularly. They also rank very high on poverty, low on public education and have very little racial diversity. Thankfully we can pay for college (and grad school.)

That’s great for you. Not all families are similarly situated. Let’s be FR. There are plenty who appreciate the value of a great scholarship and make the most of the opportunities. Undergrad school brand isn’t the most important factor or predictor of lifelong success.

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What is the active DC area Facebook group? My DC is likely attending and would like to connect with other local parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there no other choice? Better to go to a school in northeast that may be ALMOST full scholarship than Alabama for free.

Please name said northeast school that gives ALMOST full scholarships.

Look...many schools offer tons of merit aid to OOS kids, but they don't make it as easy to understand and are as explict as Alabama, so they should probably take note.

I guarantee you that if you want to attend University of Maine or University of New Hampshire, they will provide a NMF significant merit aid. You also have Big10 schools like University of Nebraska, Iowa, Iowa State and other SEC schools like LSU or Ole Miss that will bring the cost way down.

Heck, my OOS kid who isn't even an NMF or NMSF received $20k/year from UGA (last year)...so I wouldn't be shocked if UGA provided even more to an NMF (as well as all the Honors programs and what not).

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The poverty rate is higher in most major northern cities than Alabama. Yeah the state has problems, but so does the north. One problem they don't seem to have is providing affordable quality higher education. If you get into an Ivy, sure it opens doors. But most kids aren't getting into Harvard or Yale. I doubt graduating with massive debt from a NYU or GWU puts you in a better position than a degree from Alabama. Those are good schools, but unless you have endless money to burn, one needs to take a serious look at a place like Alabama. College is what you make of it, and it sure sounds like a high-achieving students can have a great experience there that will prepare them for the future without killing themself with loans. Florida used to have a similar reputation as Alabama and now its one of the top public universities in the nation.

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Anonymous wrote:The poverty rate is higher in most major northern cities than Alabama. Yeah the state has problems, but so does the north. One problem they don't seem to have is providing affordable quality higher education. If you get into an Ivy, sure it opens doors. But most kids aren't getting into Harvard or Yale. I doubt graduating with massive debt from a NYU or GWU puts you in a better position than a degree from Alabama. Those are good schools, but unless you have endless money to burn, one needs to take a serious look at a place like Alabama. College is what you make of it, and it sure sounds like a high-achieving students can have a great experience there that will prepare them for the future without killing themself with loans. Florida used to have a similar reputation as Alabama and now its one of the top public universities in the nation.

I don't know the answer...but if you look at just salary data of Alabama on the WSJ ranking it's ranked 380 (it's even lower than Alabama Huntsville on this metric) vs. 90 for GW. NYU actually rates very low as well (310), so you are likely correct on that one.

Ga Tech as one example is #5...it would seem that it's almost a no brainer to even pay full freight for Ga Tech OOS (which is cheap for OOS at like $50k) vs. Alabama if you plan to go into the workforce after graduation, but Penn, CMU, Babson are all top 10 and would be worth the price as well as just some examples.

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I would venture that an Alabama grad with a degree in chemical engineering will make more money than a GWU grad with an English degree. Unless you are talking about Ivies, your major plays a bigger role in how much you will make than what school you got it from.

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Anonymous wrote:I just couldn’t in good conscience send my DD to Alabama. I’m sure the actual university is fine, but politically and socially I just couldn’t do it. They have a near total abortion ban; one of the strictest in the nation. They are also one of the most religious states in the nation, with 58% of the population attending church regularly. They also rank very high on poverty, low on public education and have very little racial diversity. Thankfully we can pay for college (and grad school.)

But the actual campus is none of those things. The campus and college town are both diverse, affluent, and progressive.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a friend who intentionally chose Alabama because she wanted independence from her parents. She moved from Europe and her family was horrified. So it does have some purpose for some. It’s cultural, it’s right for some but not universally appealing.
The point is that OP is wondering how to convince son and spouse to consider Alabama option. If son isn’t interested, it’s an uphill battle… I’m sure you can find a good scholarship for a more appropriate school (for him) like GWU or similar up here.

One way to convince the son is to visit and see the girls of U Alabama. Then take a drive to the Alabama beaches as well as Pensacola Florida panhandle beaches.

Meet other honors college students.

Either he will like what he sees and experiences or he'll know to move on.

Small point, but I was bothered by the constant Roll Tide greeting.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a friend who intentionally chose Alabama because she wanted independence from her parents. She moved from Europe and her family was horrified. So it does have some purpose for some. It’s cultural, it’s right for some but not universally appealing.
The point is that OP is wondering how to convince son and spouse to consider Alabama option. If son isn’t interested, it’s an uphill battle… I’m sure you can find a good scholarship for a more appropriate school (for him) like GWU or similar up here.

One way to convince the son is to visit and see the girls of U Alabama. Then take a drive to the Alabama beaches as well as Pensacola Florida panhandle beaches.

Meet other honors college students.

Either he will like what he sees and experiences or he'll know to move on.

Small point, but I was bothered by the constant Roll Tide greeting.

Those beaches are 4.5 hours away. By that measure, go to Auburn which is an hour closer, or go to Tulane which is 1.5 hours closer. (and you pass a dozen other beaches on the way)..or go to Miami or Pepperdine or UCLA or a college which is right at the beach.