Why Are Teachers So Resentful?

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that teaching was one of the best jobs around — decent pay, good work–life balance, and a fulfilling career with three months of paid vacation. Yet when I talk to current teachers, they don’t seem to feel that way anymore in any of these areas.

What exactly has changed in recent years that turned teaching from a dream job into such a difficult one? Do you think teachers now see students, administrators, and parents as ungrateful?

Lack of autonomy in the classroom.
Lack of discipline and not being able to discipline problem students.
Federal funding addiction creating problem students who destroy classrooms and schools since they won't kick them out.
Political Correctness stifling a creative learning environment.
Mandatory "continuing education" bs during summer vacations.
Summer vacations cut from 3 months to barely 2 now.
Teacher's unions in many states sucking up their paychecks.

The list goes on.

cry me a river, lol

One of the main reasons people go into teaching is the summers off with the kids. It be what it be.

Pay more and the shorter summer vacation wouldn't be such a thing. Teachers get around $15 per hour as it is. $20-25 per hour average if you work at an inner city school like in The Substitute movies where you deal with stabbings and gang fights.

Complete nonsense. I just checked with a friend at fcps and she makes 85k on a 195 day contract. That's over $50 per hour. And her colleagues who have been there longer than she has make much more, some of them well over six figures. And they are free to work other jobs over the breaks (which my friend does).

DMV big3 Teacher salary is around 60K bases on Glassdoor.

Yeah. Public school pays more than private.

At any rate 60k on a similar length contract is going to be about $38 per hour. Less than $50, but a hell of a lot more than this $15 nonsense PP was spewing.

Here is a link to fcps pay scale. At the top of it, 30 years in with a MA, pay is $125k. That's $78 an hour. And a six figure salary with months -- plural -- off.

If you’re working 40 hour weeks, that pay is good. But when you’re working 65 hour weeks, it’s not. I figure I make a bit less than $30 an hour when I factor in my real hours, not just my contracted ones. That’s not great pay considering my experience and advanced degrees.

And those months off? Again: unpaid. And I often PAY for courses to maintain my certification during those months.

- not FCPS, but the point still stands

A salary is a salary. If you make 80k for a 195-day contract you make 80k. You are neither "unpaid" nor "paid" during the summer. It's not like you are teaching everyday but "unpaid."

My contract is literally for a set amount of days as well as a set number of hours each day.

By contract, I am paid for 1528 hours. I estimate that last year I worked 2655 hours, which includes a lot of weekend and summer work.

So yes, I feel severely underpaid for what I do.

And as for unpaid, I am literally unpaid for summer work. My contract stops in June and resumes in August, yet I am working in my classroom throughout the summer to prep for the next year.

You do realize you aren't special or unique in this. Plenty of salaried people work nights, weekend, on vacation and aren't getting extra compensation..

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that teaching was one of the best jobs around — decent pay, good work–life balance, and a fulfilling career with three months of paid vacation. Yet when I talk to current teachers, they don’t seem to feel that way anymore in any of these areas.

What exactly has changed in recent years that turned teaching from a dream job into such a difficult one? Do you think teachers now see students, administrators, and parents as ungrateful?

Lack of autonomy in the classroom.
Lack of discipline and not being able to discipline problem students.
Federal funding addiction creating problem students who destroy classrooms and schools since they won't kick them out.
Political Correctness stifling a creative learning environment.
Mandatory "continuing education" bs during summer vacations.
Summer vacations cut from 3 months to barely 2 now.
Teacher's unions in many states sucking up their paychecks.

The list goes on.

cry me a river, lol

One of the main reasons people go into teaching is the summers off with the kids. It be what it be.

Pay more and the shorter summer vacation wouldn't be such a thing. Teachers get around $15 per hour as it is. $20-25 per hour average if you work at an inner city school like in The Substitute movies where you deal with stabbings and gang fights.

Complete nonsense. I just checked with a friend at fcps and she makes 85k on a 195 day contract. That's over $50 per hour. And her colleagues who have been there longer than she has make much more, some of them well over six figures. And they are free to work other jobs over the breaks (which my friend does).

DMV big3 Teacher salary is around 60K bases on Glassdoor.

Yeah. Public school pays more than private.

At any rate 60k on a similar length contract is going to be about $38 per hour. Less than $50, but a hell of a lot more than this $15 nonsense PP was spewing.

Here is a link to fcps pay scale. At the top of it, 30 years in with a MA, pay is $125k. That's $78 an hour. And a six figure salary with months -- plural -- off.

If you’re working 40 hour weeks, that pay is good. But when you’re working 65 hour weeks, it’s not. I figure I make a bit less than $30 an hour when I factor in my real hours, not just my contracted ones. That’s not great pay considering my experience and advanced degrees.

And those months off? Again: unpaid. And I often PAY for courses to maintain my certification during those months.

- not FCPS, but the point still stands

A salary is a salary. If you make 80k for a 195-day contract you make 80k. You are neither "unpaid" nor "paid" during the summer. It's not like you are teaching everyday but "unpaid."

My contract is literally for a set amount of days as well as a set number of hours each day.

By contract, I am paid for 1528 hours. I estimate that last year I worked 2655 hours, which includes a lot of weekend and summer work.

So yes, I feel severely underpaid for what I do.

And as for unpaid, I am literally unpaid for summer work. My contract stops in June and resumes in August, yet I am working in my classroom throughout the summer to prep for the next year.

There shouldn't be that much summer prep. Maybe reach out to a more experienced teacher who can mentor you and help you figure out where you're going wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that teaching was one of the best jobs around — decent pay, good work–life balance, and a fulfilling career with three months of paid vacation. Yet when I talk to current teachers, they don’t seem to feel that way anymore in any of these areas.

What exactly has changed in recent years that turned teaching from a dream job into such a difficult one? Do you think teachers now see students, administrators, and parents as ungrateful?

Lack of autonomy in the classroom.
Lack of discipline and not being able to discipline problem students.
Federal funding addiction creating problem students who destroy classrooms and schools since they won't kick them out.
Political Correctness stifling a creative learning environment.
Mandatory "continuing education" bs during summer vacations.
Summer vacations cut from 3 months to barely 2 now.
Teacher's unions in many states sucking up their paychecks.

The list goes on.

cry me a river, lol

One of the main reasons people go into teaching is the summers off with the kids. It be what it be.

Pay more and the shorter summer vacation wouldn't be such a thing. Teachers get around $15 per hour as it is. $20-25 per hour average if you work at an inner city school like in The Substitute movies where you deal with stabbings and gang fights.

Complete nonsense. I just checked with a friend at fcps and she makes 85k on a 195 day contract. That's over $50 per hour. And her colleagues who have been there longer than she has make much more, some of them well over six figures. And they are free to work other jobs over the breaks (which my friend does).

DMV big3 Teacher salary is around 60K bases on Glassdoor.

Yeah. Public school pays more than private.

At any rate 60k on a similar length contract is going to be about $38 per hour. Less than $50, but a hell of a lot more than this $15 nonsense PP was spewing.

Here is a link to fcps pay scale. At the top of it, 30 years in with a MA, pay is $125k. That's $78 an hour. And a six figure salary with months -- plural -- off.

If you’re working 40 hour weeks, that pay is good. But when you’re working 65 hour weeks, it’s not. I figure I make a bit less than $30 an hour when I factor in my real hours, not just my contracted ones. That’s not great pay considering my experience and advanced degrees.

And those months off? Again: unpaid. And I often PAY for courses to maintain my certification during those months.

- not FCPS, but the point still stands

A salary is a salary. If you make 80k for a 195-day contract you make 80k. You are neither "unpaid" nor "paid" during the summer. It's not like you are teaching everyday but "unpaid."

My contract is literally for a set amount of days as well as a set number of hours each day.

By contract, I am paid for 1528 hours. I estimate that last year I worked 2655 hours, which includes a lot of weekend and summer work.

So yes, I feel severely underpaid for what I do.

And as for unpaid, I am literally unpaid for summer work. My contract stops in June and resumes in August, yet I am working in my classroom throughout the summer to prep for the next year.

You do realize you aren't special or unique in this. Plenty of salaried people work nights, weekend, on vacation and aren't getting extra compensation..

I never said I was special.

But this thread is about teaching. And the subject of whether we feel underpaid came up. Guess what? I do.

And it’s absolutely okay for me to speak my thoughts about my job, especially when someone asks for my opinion.

Since you clearly feel that you are over worked as well, why don’t you tell us about it? This is me asking you. And I won’t belittle or dismiss you, like people often do to teachers on this site.

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that teaching was one of the best jobs around — decent pay, good work–life balance, and a fulfilling career with three months of paid vacation. Yet when I talk to current teachers, they don’t seem to feel that way anymore in any of these areas.

What exactly has changed in recent years that turned teaching from a dream job into such a difficult one? Do you think teachers now see students, administrators, and parents as ungrateful?

Lack of autonomy in the classroom.
Lack of discipline and not being able to discipline problem students.
Federal funding addiction creating problem students who destroy classrooms and schools since they won't kick them out.
Political Correctness stifling a creative learning environment.
Mandatory "continuing education" bs during summer vacations.
Summer vacations cut from 3 months to barely 2 now.
Teacher's unions in many states sucking up their paychecks.

The list goes on.

cry me a river, lol

One of the main reasons people go into teaching is the summers off with the kids. It be what it be.

Pay more and the shorter summer vacation wouldn't be such a thing. Teachers get around $15 per hour as it is. $20-25 per hour average if you work at an inner city school like in The Substitute movies where you deal with stabbings and gang fights.

Complete nonsense. I just checked with a friend at fcps and she makes 85k on a 195 day contract. That's over $50 per hour. And her colleagues who have been there longer than she has make much more, some of them well over six figures. And they are free to work other jobs over the breaks (which my friend does).

DMV big3 Teacher salary is around 60K bases on Glassdoor.

Yeah. Public school pays more than private.

At any rate 60k on a similar length contract is going to be about $38 per hour. Less than $50, but a hell of a lot more than this $15 nonsense PP was spewing.

Here is a link to fcps pay scale. At the top of it, 30 years in with a MA, pay is $125k. That's $78 an hour. And a six figure salary with months -- plural -- off.

If you’re working 40 hour weeks, that pay is good. But when you’re working 65 hour weeks, it’s not. I figure I make a bit less than $30 an hour when I factor in my real hours, not just my contracted ones. That’s not great pay considering my experience and advanced degrees.

And those months off? Again: unpaid. And I often PAY for courses to maintain my certification during those months.

- not FCPS, but the point still stands

A salary is a salary. If you make 80k for a 195-day contract you make 80k. You are neither "unpaid" nor "paid" during the summer. It's not like you are teaching everyday but "unpaid."

My contract is literally for a set amount of days as well as a set number of hours each day.

By contract, I am paid for 1528 hours. I estimate that last year I worked 2655 hours, which includes a lot of weekend and summer work.

So yes, I feel severely underpaid for what I do.

And as for unpaid, I am literally unpaid for summer work. My contract stops in June and resumes in August, yet I am working in my classroom throughout the summer to prep for the next year.

There shouldn't be that much summer prep. Maybe reach out to a more experienced teacher who can mentor you and help you figure out where you're going wrong.

I am the mentor. Half my work is prepping new teachers and preparing the department for the following year.

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that teaching was one of the best jobs around — decent pay, good work–life balance, and a fulfilling career with three months of paid vacation. Yet when I talk to current teachers, they don’t seem to feel that way anymore in any of these areas.

What exactly has changed in recent years that turned teaching from a dream job into such a difficult one? Do you think teachers now see students, administrators, and parents as ungrateful?

Lack of autonomy in the classroom.
Lack of discipline and not being able to discipline problem students.
Federal funding addiction creating problem students who destroy classrooms and schools since they won't kick them out.
Political Correctness stifling a creative learning environment.
Mandatory "continuing education" bs during summer vacations.
Summer vacations cut from 3 months to barely 2 now.
Teacher's unions in many states sucking up their paychecks.

The list goes on.

cry me a river, lol

One of the main reasons people go into teaching is the summers off with the kids. It be what it be.

Pay more and the shorter summer vacation wouldn't be such a thing. Teachers get around $15 per hour as it is. $20-25 per hour average if you work at an inner city school like in The Substitute movies where you deal with stabbings and gang fights.

Complete nonsense. I just checked with a friend at fcps and she makes 85k on a 195 day contract. That's over $50 per hour. And her colleagues who have been there longer than she has make much more, some of them well over six figures. And they are free to work other jobs over the breaks (which my friend does).

DMV big3 Teacher salary is around 60K bases on Glassdoor.

Yeah. Public school pays more than private.

At any rate 60k on a similar length contract is going to be about $38 per hour. Less than $50, but a hell of a lot more than this $15 nonsense PP was spewing.

Here is a link to fcps pay scale. At the top of it, 30 years in with a MA, pay is $125k. That's $78 an hour. And a six figure salary with months -- plural -- off.

If you’re working 40 hour weeks, that pay is good. But when you’re working 65 hour weeks, it’s not. I figure I make a bit less than $30 an hour when I factor in my real hours, not just my contracted ones. That’s not great pay considering my experience and advanced degrees.

And those months off? Again: unpaid. And I often PAY for courses to maintain my certification during those months.

- not FCPS, but the point still stands

A salary is a salary. If you make 80k for a 195-day contract you make 80k. You are neither "unpaid" nor "paid" during the summer. It's not like you are teaching everyday but "unpaid."

My contract is literally for a set amount of days as well as a set number of hours each day.

By contract, I am paid for 1528 hours. I estimate that last year I worked 2655 hours, which includes a lot of weekend and summer work.

So yes, I feel severely underpaid for what I do.

And as for unpaid, I am literally unpaid for summer work. My contract stops in June and resumes in August, yet I am working in my classroom throughout the summer to prep for the next year.

You do realize you aren't special or unique in this. Plenty of salaried people work nights, weekend, on vacation and aren't getting extra compensation..

I never said I was special.

But this thread is about teaching. And the subject of whether we feel underpaid came up. Guess what? I do.

And it’s absolutely okay for me to speak my thoughts about my job, especially when someone asks for my opinion.

Since you clearly feel that you are over worked as well, why don’t you tell us about it? This is me asking you. And I won’t belittle or dismiss you, like people often do to teachers on this site.

Since you asked I'm overworked because I work 40 hours a week in my office and then when I come home I have to teach my kids what they should have learned at school but didn't because the teacher wouldn't help them.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting teacher threads are always filled with teachers claiming they work 60+ hours a week, but there's always a delay in grading, sending communication, etc. 🤔

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that teaching was one of the best jobs around — decent pay, good work–life balance, and a fulfilling career with three months of paid vacation. Yet when I talk to current teachers, they don’t seem to feel that way anymore in any of these areas.

What exactly has changed in recent years that turned teaching from a dream job into such a difficult one? Do you think teachers now see students, administrators, and parents as ungrateful?

Lack of autonomy in the classroom.
Lack of discipline and not being able to discipline problem students.
Federal funding addiction creating problem students who destroy classrooms and schools since they won't kick them out.
Political Correctness stifling a creative learning environment.
Mandatory "continuing education" bs during summer vacations.
Summer vacations cut from 3 months to barely 2 now.
Teacher's unions in many states sucking up their paychecks.

The list goes on.

cry me a river, lol

One of the main reasons people go into teaching is the summers off with the kids. It be what it be.

Pay more and the shorter summer vacation wouldn't be such a thing. Teachers get around $15 per hour as it is. $20-25 per hour average if you work at an inner city school like in The Substitute movies where you deal with stabbings and gang fights.

Complete nonsense. I just checked with a friend at fcps and she makes 85k on a 195 day contract. That's over $50 per hour. And her colleagues who have been there longer than she has make much more, some of them well over six figures. And they are free to work other jobs over the breaks (which my friend does).

DMV big3 Teacher salary is around 60K bases on Glassdoor.

Yeah. Public school pays more than private.

At any rate 60k on a similar length contract is going to be about $38 per hour. Less than $50, but a hell of a lot more than this $15 nonsense PP was spewing.

Here is a link to fcps pay scale. At the top of it, 30 years in with a MA, pay is $125k. That's $78 an hour. And a six figure salary with months -- plural -- off.

If you’re working 40 hour weeks, that pay is good. But when you’re working 65 hour weeks, it’s not. I figure I make a bit less than $30 an hour when I factor in my real hours, not just my contracted ones. That’s not great pay considering my experience and advanced degrees.

And those months off? Again: unpaid. And I often PAY for courses to maintain my certification during those months.

- not FCPS, but the point still stands

A salary is a salary. If you make 80k for a 195-day contract you make 80k. You are neither "unpaid" nor "paid" during the summer. It's not like you are teaching everyday but "unpaid."

My contract is literally for a set amount of days as well as a set number of hours each day.

By contract, I am paid for 1528 hours. I estimate that last year I worked 2655 hours, which includes a lot of weekend and summer work.

So yes, I feel severely underpaid for what I do.

And as for unpaid, I am literally unpaid for summer work. My contract stops in June and resumes in August, yet I am working in my classroom throughout the summer to prep for the next year.

You do realize you aren't special or unique in this. Plenty of salaried people work nights, weekend, on vacation and aren't getting extra compensation..

I never said I was special.

But this thread is about teaching. And the subject of whether we feel underpaid came up. Guess what? I do.

And it’s absolutely okay for me to speak my thoughts about my job, especially when someone asks for my opinion.

Since you clearly feel that you are over worked as well, why don’t you tell us about it? This is me asking you. And I won’t belittle or dismiss you, like people often do to teachers on this site.

Since you asked I'm overworked because I work 40 hours a week in my office and then when I come home I have to teach my kids what they should have learned at school but didn't because the teacher wouldn't help them.

You could have simply taken the opportunity I offered to commiserate as two overworked people, but I suppose the chance to insult a teacher was just too hard to pass up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting teacher threads are always filled with teachers claiming they work 60+ hours a week, but there's always a delay in grading, sending communication, etc. 🤔

Perhaps that’s why. Grading, emailing, planning… it all competes with each other and with our home obligations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's interesting teacher threads are always filled with teachers claiming they work 60+ hours a week, but there's always a delay in grading, sending communication, etc. 🤔

Perhaps that’s why. Grading, emailing, planning… it all competes with each other and with our home obligations.

But they aren't doing those things that's the point.

[Anonymous]

My kids school has no homework and teachers get a daily planning/work period of over an hour a day. I have no idea how they claim they are working so many extra hours. Standing around talking, I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that teaching was one of the best jobs around — decent pay, good work–life balance, and a fulfilling career with three months of paid vacation. Yet when I talk to current teachers, they don’t seem to feel that way anymore in any of these areas.

What exactly has changed in recent years that turned teaching from a dream job into such a difficult one? Do you think teachers now see students, administrators, and parents as ungrateful?

Lack of autonomy in the classroom.
Lack of discipline and not being able to discipline problem students.
Federal funding addiction creating problem students who destroy classrooms and schools since they won't kick them out.
Political Correctness stifling a creative learning environment.
Mandatory "continuing education" bs during summer vacations.
Summer vacations cut from 3 months to barely 2 now.
Teacher's unions in many states sucking up their paychecks.

The list goes on.

cry me a river, lol

One of the main reasons people go into teaching is the summers off with the kids. It be what it be.

Pay more and the shorter summer vacation wouldn't be such a thing. Teachers get around $15 per hour as it is. $20-25 per hour average if you work at an inner city school like in The Substitute movies where you deal with stabbings and gang fights.

Complete nonsense. I just checked with a friend at fcps and she makes 85k on a 195 day contract. That's over $50 per hour. And her colleagues who have been there longer than she has make much more, some of them well over six figures. And they are free to work other jobs over the breaks (which my friend does).

DMV big3 Teacher salary is around 60K bases on Glassdoor.

Yeah. Public school pays more than private.

At any rate 60k on a similar length contract is going to be about $38 per hour. Less than $50, but a hell of a lot more than this $15 nonsense PP was spewing.

Here is a link to fcps pay scale. At the top of it, 30 years in with a MA, pay is $125k. That's $78 an hour. And a six figure salary with months -- plural -- off.

If you’re working 40 hour weeks, that pay is good. But when you’re working 65 hour weeks, it’s not. I figure I make a bit less than $30 an hour when I factor in my real hours, not just my contracted ones. That’s not great pay considering my experience and advanced degrees.

And those months off? Again: unpaid. And I often PAY for courses to maintain my certification during those months.

- not FCPS, but the point still stands

A salary is a salary. If you make 80k for a 195-day contract you make 80k. You are neither "unpaid" nor "paid" during the summer. It's not like you are teaching everyday but "unpaid."

My contract is literally for a set amount of days as well as a set number of hours each day.

By contract, I am paid for 1528 hours. I estimate that last year I worked 2655 hours, which includes a lot of weekend and summer work.

So yes, I feel severely underpaid for what I do.

And as for unpaid, I am literally unpaid for summer work. My contract stops in June and resumes in August, yet I am working in my classroom throughout the summer to prep for the next year.

You do realize you aren't special or unique in this. Plenty of salaried people work nights, weekend, on vacation and aren't getting extra compensation..

I never said I was special.

But this thread is about teaching. And the subject of whether we feel underpaid came up. Guess what? I do.

And it’s absolutely okay for me to speak my thoughts about my job, especially when someone asks for my opinion.

Since you clearly feel that you are over worked as well, why don’t you tell us about it? This is me asking you. And I won’t belittle or dismiss you, like people often do to teachers on this site.

Since you asked I'm overworked because I work 40 hours a week in my office and then when I come home I have to teach my kids what they should have learned at school but didn't because the teacher wouldn't help them.

You could have simply taken the opportunity I offered to commiserate as two overworked people, but I suppose the chance to insult a teacher was just too hard to pass up.

I mean you asked the poster. The poster answered honestly. As someone who spends over an hour helping a freshman with math several times a week because the teacher "explained it once and is not explaining it again" (yes, that is what the teacher said), I get it.

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Anonymous wrote:It used to be that teaching was one of the best jobs around — decent pay, good work–life balance, and a fulfilling career with three months of paid vacation. Yet when I talk to current teachers, they don’t seem to feel that way anymore in any of these areas.

What exactly has changed in recent years that turned teaching from a dream job into such a difficult one? Do you think teachers now see students, administrators, and parents as ungrateful?

Lack of autonomy in the classroom.
Lack of discipline and not being able to discipline problem students.
Federal funding addiction creating problem students who destroy classrooms and schools since they won't kick them out.
Political Correctness stifling a creative learning environment.
Mandatory "continuing education" bs during summer vacations.
Summer vacations cut from 3 months to barely 2 now.
Teacher's unions in many states sucking up their paychecks.

The list goes on.

cry me a river, lol

One of the main reasons people go into teaching is the summers off with the kids. It be what it be.

Pay more and the shorter summer vacation wouldn't be such a thing. Teachers get around $15 per hour as it is. $20-25 per hour average if you work at an inner city school like in The Substitute movies where you deal with stabbings and gang fights.

Complete nonsense. I just checked with a friend at fcps and she makes 85k on a 195 day contract. That's over $50 per hour. And her colleagues who have been there longer than she has make much more, some of them well over six figures. And they are free to work other jobs over the breaks (which my friend does).

DMV big3 Teacher salary is around 60K bases on Glassdoor.

Yeah. Public school pays more than private.

At any rate 60k on a similar length contract is going to be about $38 per hour. Less than $50, but a hell of a lot more than this $15 nonsense PP was spewing.

Here is a link to fcps pay scale. At the top of it, 30 years in with a MA, pay is $125k. That's $78 an hour. And a six figure salary with months -- plural -- off.

If you’re working 40 hour weeks, that pay is good. But when you’re working 65 hour weeks, it’s not. I figure I make a bit less than $30 an hour when I factor in my real hours, not just my contracted ones. That’s not great pay considering my experience and advanced degrees.

And those months off? Again: unpaid. And I often PAY for courses to maintain my certification during those months.

- not FCPS, but the point still stands

A salary is a salary. If you make 80k for a 195-day contract you make 80k. You are neither "unpaid" nor "paid" during the summer. It's not like you are teaching everyday but "unpaid."

My contract is literally for a set amount of days as well as a set number of hours each day.

By contract, I am paid for 1528 hours. I estimate that last year I worked 2655 hours, which includes a lot of weekend and summer work.

So yes, I feel severely underpaid for what I do.

And as for unpaid, I am literally unpaid for summer work. My contract stops in June and resumes in August, yet I am working in my classroom throughout the summer to prep for the next year.

There shouldn't be that much summer prep. Maybe reach out to a more experienced teacher who can mentor you and help you figure out where you're going wrong.

I am the mentor. Half my work is prepping new teachers and preparing the department for the following year.

Just reuse the stuff from last year. That's what my school does. No need to reinvent the wheel every summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids school has no homework and teachers get a daily planning/work period of over an hour a day. I have no idea how they claim they are working so many extra hours. Standing around talking, I guess.

It takes me 15 minutes to comment on one essay. I have 80 essays. That’s 20 hours of sustained grading for that assignment alone. They also took a test. They are easier to grade, so maybe 10 minutes each. That’s over 13 hours of sustained grading. That’s 33 hours for two assignments I collected this week, essentially a second job.

So here’s where you write back and tell me how you could do my job better. You’ll tell me not to assign work (which is why there is a current thread about high school English teachers not teaching how to write). Or you’ll tell me I should have expected that when I became a teacher (even though all I’m doing is correcting your misconception above). I’ve heard it all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting teacher threads are always filled with teachers claiming they work 60+ hours a week, but there's always a delay in grading, sending communication, etc. 🤔

I'm a high school English teacher. There is a "delay in grading" because it takes me 20-30 minutes to carefully read each essay and write thoughtful, individualized feedback that will help students improve. I have over a hundred students, all of whom are preparing for exams in May, and I have no time during the school day to grade because I am forced to cover for colleagues who are out or attend (largely useless) meetings. This means the bulk of that grading must take place at home. This means over 30 hours of grading to be done in the evenings and weekends, BUT I also have to plan lessons, organize advisory activities, and complete paperwork. I write a lot of letters of rec for college as well, and each of these means at least one meeting with the student, plus time to write the letter.

If you have any ideas for me that won't involve ignoring my own family and letting my home fall into utter chaos, I'm all ears. Right now, I'm doing the best I can.

I understand that the majority of parents think I am stupid and lazy, and that I complain too much. I am actively looking for a new career after almost 20 years of teaching because the criticism and attacks just really get me down at this point, and I live in a perpetual state of anxiety and dread about everything I need to get done.

I especially enjoyed the scathing posts about teachers and letters of rec a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting teacher threads are always filled with teachers claiming they work 60+ hours a week, but there's always a delay in grading, sending communication, etc. 🤔

Perhaps that’s why. Grading, emailing, planning… it all competes with each other and with our home obligations.

But they aren't doing those things that's the point.

I hope your child's teacher starts using AI to "grade" his/her work to save time. You and your brat deserve that.