White House Asks Colleges to Sign Sweeping Agreement

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Anonymous wrote:Main points:

The memo demands that schools ban the use of race or sex in hiring and admissions;
freeze tuition for five years;
cap international undergrad enrollment at 15%;
require that applicants take the SAT or a similar test;
quell grade inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/trump-universities-compact-federal-funds-agreement-df158493?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Starting this year?
How are applicants preparing for this change? Taking October SAT?

Deadline to register for Oct is likely over. Junior class has time, seniors prob not unless going RD.

Changes would probably apply to the next admissions cycle. I can't imagine schools going test-required and then requiring it like, that month.

But don't you think the proportion of admitted students with test scores would be higher even for class of '30? I think the upcoming cds data will show that it increased with class of '29 already. TO is a trap for the unwary

The kids who go TO mostly took the test, they just didn't score high enough. I don't think there's any "unwary."

Correct. They have test scores to submit, they’re just not in range. Most took it multiple times and still are well below range.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Main points:

The memo demands that schools ban the use of race or sex in hiring and admissions;
freeze tuition for five years;
cap international undergrad enrollment at 15%;
require that applicants take the SAT or a similar test;
quell grade inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/trump-universities-compact-federal-funds-agreement-df158493?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Starting this year?
How are applicants preparing for this change? Taking October SAT?

Deadline to register for Oct is likely over. Junior class has time, seniors prob not unless going RD.

Changes would probably apply to the next admissions cycle. I can't imagine schools going test-required and then requiring it like, that month.

But don't you think the proportion of admitted students with test scores would be higher even for class of '30? I think the upcoming cds data will show that it increased with class of '29 already. TO is a trap for the unwary

The kids who go TO mostly took the test, they just didn't score high enough. I don't think there's any "unwary."

I mean those applying TO to schools that for the class of '28 were already 70% test submitted (i.e. test preferred) or those not submitting a score in the 1400's. The game has changed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Main points:

The memo demands that schools ban the use of race or sex in hiring and admissions;
freeze tuition for five years;
cap international undergrad enrollment at 15%;
require that applicants take the SAT or a similar test;
quell grade inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/trump-universities-compact-federal-funds-agreement-df158493?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Starting this year?
How are applicants preparing for this change? Taking October SAT?

Deadline to register for Oct is likely over. Junior class has time, seniors prob not unless going RD.

Changes would probably apply to the next admissions cycle. I can't imagine schools going test-required and then requiring it like, that month.

But don't you think the proportion of admitted students with test scores would be higher even for class of '30? I think the upcoming cds data will show that it increased with class of '29 already. TO is a trap for the unwary

The kids who go TO mostly took the test, they just didn't score high enough. I don't think there's any "unwary."

Correct. They have test scores to submit, they’re just not in range. Most took it multiple times and still are well below range.

Of the schools listed, the only ones that are not already test required are UVA, Vanderbilt and Arizona.

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Vanderbilt University,
Dartmouth College,
the University of Pennsylvania,
the University of Southern California,
Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
the University of Texas at Austin,
the University of Arizona,
Brown University and
the University of Virginia[/quote]

Public in Maga (or maga-ish (VA)) states

All of the colleges themselves are left leaning. Looks like trying to make conservative inroads in states/regions that are purple.

[Anonymous]

Yikes on bikes for this part.

From the article:

The compact asks universities to ensure a “vibrant marketplace of ideas on campus” and to bar employees from expressing political views on behalf of their employer, unless the matter affects the school. It seeks to create a more welcoming environment for conservatives, asking colleges to make governance changes and abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.”

“Institutions of higher education are free to develop models and values other than those” in the memo, if the institution elects to forgo federal benefits, the document says.

Ted Mitchell, president of the American Council on Education, which represents more than 1,500 presidents of colleges and universities, said he found the idea of a compact troubling, particularly its points regarding political expression and views.

“Who decides if the intellectual environment is vigorous and open-ended? This is not something the federal government should be involved in and adjudicating,” he said. “The implications for free speech are horrifying.”

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Anonymous wrote:Does the WH realize if they don’t take into account gender, these schools will be heavily female???

+1

SAT requirement takes care of the female bookworms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yikes on bikes for this part.

From the article:

The compact asks universities to ensure a “vibrant marketplace of ideas on campus” and to bar employees from expressing political views on behalf of their employer, unless the matter affects the school. It seeks to create a more welcoming environment for conservatives, asking colleges to make governance changes and abolish departments that “purposefully punish, belittle, and even spark violence against conservative ideas.”

“Institutions of higher education are free to develop models and values other than those” in the memo, if the institution elects to forgo federal benefits, the document says.

Ted Mitchell, president of the American Council on Education, which represents more than 1,500 presidents of colleges and universities, said he found the idea of a compact troubling, particularly its points regarding political expression and views.

“Who decides if the intellectual environment is vigorous and open-ended? This is not something the federal government should be involved in and adjudicating,” he said. “The implications for free speech are horrifying.”

Wtf? How would any real conservative support this insane amount of government overreaching? I remember the days when conservatives wanted smaller government, not Big Brother.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this GPA part about college GPA or high school GPA? I don’t care much about college GPA. But high school GPA inflation needs to be controlled. In my years, students got As and Bs are good students. Nowadays 1/3 of the class is 4.0. So everyone takes a lot of AP/IB/DE insanely more than they actually need or should, or competes by founding so called non-profit organizations. That’s sick.

You want the federal government—and remember the current administration doesn’t even think there should be a Department of Education—to “control” high school GPAs?

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Anonymous wrote:Main points:

The memo demands that schools ban the use of race or sex in hiring and admissions;
freeze tuition for five years;
cap international undergrad enrollment at 15%;
require that applicants take the SAT or a similar test;
quell grade inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/trump-universities-compact-federal-funds-agreement-df158493?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Starting this year?
How are applicants preparing for this change? Taking October SAT?

Deadline to register for Oct is likely over. Junior class has time, seniors prob not unless going RD.

Changes would probably apply to the next admissions cycle. I can't imagine schools going test-required and then requiring it like, that month.

But don't you think the proportion of admitted students with test scores would be higher even for class of '30? I think the upcoming cds data will show that it increased with class of '29 already. TO is a trap for the unwary

The kids who go TO mostly took the test, they just didn't score high enough. I don't think there's any "unwary."

Correct. They have test scores to submit, they’re just not in range. Most took it multiple times and still are well below range.

+1. Can’t think of any reason to validate TO.

[Anonymous]

Here are the 9 colleges Trump's government mafia is targeting to join his compact:

Letters on Wednesday were going out to solicit agreement and feedback from
Vanderbilt University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania, the University of Southern California, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Texas at Austin, the University of Arizona, Brown University and the University of Virginia, according to an administration official.

The schools either declined to comment or didn’t respond to a request for comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Letters on Wednesday were going out to solicit agreement and feedback from Vanderbilt University, Dartmouth College, the University of Pennsylvania, the University of Southern California, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Texas at Austin, the University of Arizona, Brown University and the University of Virginia, according to an administration official."

Who's going to sign this first? My bet: Vanderbilt.

exactly Vanderbilt and Arizona first

I assume he's telegraphed this to them behind closed doors before name-checking them so most of them must be open to this nonsense.

Can't believe UVA is on this crazy list.

[Anonymous]

And just like that, applications to Canadian, Irish and UK colleges are gonna skyrocket ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to admit that there is a evil genius to this maneuver by the administration. By now creating an opt-in, it might be effective at further isolating those that resist. They are adding a carrot to their previous (and ongoing) stick approach. I wonder if less blockable in court as well.

This is straight out of Project 2020. Just like Harris said, this was decades in the making and was the plan even pre-Donald.

The only question is - what are we going to do now?

This is how it started in Hungary, Iran and no, I'm not being alarmist. My husband is conservative (never Trumper) and we are all about diversity of views but this is the antithesis of that. This is top down heavy-handed government control.

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Anonymous wrote:Authoritarianism is here, btw.

+1 million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Main points:

The memo demands that schools ban the use of race or sex in hiring and admissions;
freeze tuition for five years;
cap international undergrad enrollment at 15%;
require that applicants take the SAT or a similar test;
quell grade inflation.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/trump-universities-compact-federal-funds-agreement-df158493?mod=hp_lead_pos1

I hope colleges tell him to "F off".

The nine he name-checked he's probably already entered into soft negotiations with. Only schools like Harvard that have access to larger pools of money and have their integrity in check will resist. None of them want to do this, but they're being pressed.