Taylor Swifts music- writing, lyrics, vocal quality and dancing

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Listening to “Right Where You Left Me” - such a beautifully constructed song. Lyrics, melody - beautiful.


Hey, I’m not a huge fan but this song is decent. Any other recs?


loml
Black Dog
How Did It End
The Bolter
This Love
Is It Over Now
You're Losing Me
Maroon
Would've Could've Should've
The Manuscript
Treacherous
Exile
My Tears Ricochet
That's When
Tis the Damn Season
Tolerate It
August
Daylight
Death by a Thousand Cuts
Ronan (if you want to cry your eyes out)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is all of her imagery so trite?

Prom queen
King of darkness
Towers
Broken glass on a white cloth
Butterflies
dusty like Ms. Havisham
Red vs blue
Ghosts haunting
Fancy cars and waiting in bars
Eyes filled with stars

These are the most basic American cultural images you can get. And every song is a bunch of these hackneyed images and sayings strung together.


Is someone forcing you to listen?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can somebody explain to me what Fiona Apple did?


Start another thread.


You’re the one that brought it up


I haven’t mentioned FA at all, twit.
Anonymous
I think Taylor Swift has a lovely voice. I like it because it’s natural and she isn’t pretending to be anything that she’s not.

I mean, did Bob Dylan have a good voice? Stevie Nicks? No.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:On songwriting:
In addition to John Mayer, Many celebrated musicians, from legendary artists to contemporary stars, have publicly lauded Taylor Swift's exceptional songwriting abilities. Notable figures who have praised her writing include Billy Joel, Paul McCartney, Dolly Parton, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, Adele, Keith Urban, Stevie Nicks, and David Draiman.
Here's what some of them have said:
Billy Joel: likened her to her generation's Beatles, suggesting her impact and songwriting prowess are on par with one of music's most influential acts.
Paul McCartney: has expressed admiration for her craft, and Dolly Parton has explicitly stated, "she's a great writer - with or without anybody," praising Swift's integrity and talent.
Bruce Springsteen: highlighted the well-constructed and sturdy nature of her songs and albums.
Keith Urban: called her songwriting "extraordinary" and "really no adjectives for it," emphasizing its brilliance.
Adele: has declared Swift "one of the greatest songwriters of our generation".
David Draiman: from Disturbed identified her as "one of the most prolific songwriters of our generation".
Carole King: has acknowledged Swift's talent, notably during Swift's induction of King into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Stevie Nicks: expressed her appreciation for a song Swift wrote, "You're On Your Own, Kid".
Selena Gomez, a close friend of Swift, also referred to her as "one of the greatest songwriters," admiring her ability to blend old and new musical elements.
More contemporary artists like Troye Sivan, Conan Gray, and those inspired by Swift, such as Gayle, Sabrina Carpenter, and Olivia Rodrigo, frequently cite her as a significant influence on their own songwriting.


Haha Arethra Franklin sure didn't think so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzPpZwSDcRo&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

I find her songs (yes, even the ones with the lyrics copied and pasted above) to be trite and boring. But they're better than most pop songs and I'm guessing that's what most of her fans are comparing her to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maroon

My favorite
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is all of her imagery so trite?

Prom queen
King of darkness
Towers
Broken glass on a white cloth
Butterflies
dusty like Ms. Havisham
Red vs blue
Ghosts haunting
Fancy cars and waiting in bars
Eyes filled with stars

These are the most basic American cultural images you can get. And every song is a bunch of these hackneyed images and sayings strung together.


Is someone forcing you to listen?



My precious thoughts like butterflies, crumple under your black skies….

Lyrical genius.
Anonymous
I love her lyrics and her voice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Taylor Swift has a lovely voice. I like it because it’s natural and she isn’t pretending to be anything that she’s not.

I mean, did Bob Dylan have a good voice? Stevie Nicks? No.


It’s odd then that Taylor talks about wearing masks, being a shape shifter and duplicitous in her interactions with people that you believe she is “natural and not pretending to be anything she is not.”

Why are her feelings about herself so different than your feelings about her?

Anonymous
She has some very clever turns of phrase and lyrics seem to just pour out of her. She has a knack for storytelling and world-building. She’s an okay songwriter and with better co-writers and good producers she puts out decent albums. Bad singer and worse dancer.

She seems to be a very hard worker. She has a certain grit and persistence which is rare, I think.

Her parents are the geniuses for building the Taylor Swift brand and assembling the powerhouse team that is responsible for the success of the business.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On songwriting:
In addition to John Mayer, Many celebrated musicians, from legendary artists to contemporary stars, have publicly lauded Taylor Swift's exceptional songwriting abilities. Notable figures who have praised her writing include Billy Joel, Paul McCartney, Dolly Parton, Carole King, Bruce Springsteen, Adele, Keith Urban, Stevie Nicks, and David Draiman.
Here's what some of them have said:
Billy Joel: likened her to her generation's Beatles, suggesting her impact and songwriting prowess are on par with one of music's most influential acts.
Paul McCartney: has expressed admiration for her craft, and Dolly Parton has explicitly stated, "she's a great writer - with or without anybody," praising Swift's integrity and talent.
Bruce Springsteen: highlighted the well-constructed and sturdy nature of her songs and albums.
Keith Urban: called her songwriting "extraordinary" and "really no adjectives for it," emphasizing its brilliance.
Adele: has declared Swift "one of the greatest songwriters of our generation".
David Draiman: from Disturbed identified her as "one of the most prolific songwriters of our generation".
Carole King: has acknowledged Swift's talent, notably during Swift's induction of King into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
Stevie Nicks: expressed her appreciation for a song Swift wrote, "You're On Your Own, Kid".
Selena Gomez, a close friend of Swift, also referred to her as "one of the greatest songwriters," admiring her ability to blend old and new musical elements.
More contemporary artists like Troye Sivan, Conan Gray, and those inspired by Swift, such as Gayle, Sabrina Carpenter, and Olivia Rodrigo, frequently cite her as a significant influence on their own songwriting.


Haha Arethra Franklin sure didn't think so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzPpZwSDcRo&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

I find her songs (yes, even the ones with the lyrics copied and pasted above) to be trite and boring. But they're better than most pop songs and I'm guessing that's what most of her fans are comparing her to.



lol Aretha ;0)

I agree that Whitney was a rare talent. Whitney’s voice was far superior to Aretha and everyone else. Whitney could go bold and strong as well as delicate and soft—and everything in between. But Whitney didn’t write or dance. She just sang amazingly well.

Taylor writes music, plays an instrument, and performs. That’s different from pop princesses—even talented ones like Whitney.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Give it up OP. She is very successful. Just try to leave it at that.


Wow her fans are crazy. Even asking whether you like her is apparently offensive.

I think she’s prolific. I don’t think she’s like the Beatles. That’s nuts
I think she’s a very mediocre singer. She has not improved much.


I think the Beatles are overrated. I dislike a lot of their drugged-out era music. It would be fine with me if I never had to listen to Hey Jude again. The Beatles were a cultural phenomenon. So is Taylor Swift.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Taylor Swift has a lovely voice. I like it because it’s natural and she isn’t pretending to be anything that she’s not.

I mean, did Bob Dylan have a good voice? Stevie Nicks? No.


+100
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Taylor Swift has a lovely voice. I like it because it’s natural and she isn’t pretending to be anything that she’s not.

I mean, did Bob Dylan have a good voice? Stevie Nicks? No.


+100


This.
Anonymous
I always ruminate about entertainers I can't stand and continue to post about them online so that everyone knows how much I don't like them. Totally normal behavior.
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