Who killed Take your Daughter to Work Day?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I went with my father as a teenager and it was pretty interesting. I think bringing the ages down is what killed it. No kid under 13 is getting anything out of seeing a workplace. It just becomes snacks and coloring day. It really ought to be about exposing teens to an adult workplace.


+1. It became a carnival (I’m at NIH and this is what it essentially is now) with games and handouts, instead of showing kids what we do.


This is how it is at my company. It's really programmed for elementary school kids (arts & crafts, scavenger hunts, etc.) vs. the tweens/teens who might actually learn something about different jobs.


Your career is pretty much defined by the time you start high school. Colleges take all 4 years of high school grades into account. If you screw up once you’re not getting into a top college.

Better to target middle schoolers
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It was also WOMEN take our daughters to work. it was meant to show girls that women can work and what it looks like for a mom to work.


No. The idea was for men to also take daughters to work. I used to have the research cites but even through the 80s and 90s women worked in many fewer jobs then men — ie there was more gender concentration into certain jobs like teacher, nurse, secretary. And if you asked little girls what they wanted to be, they also said “mom” “teacher” “nurse” or maybe secretary. I distinctly remember being the only girl in my 1977 kindergwrrrn class that didn’t pick one of those careers for our “when I grow up” portrait. And I was shocked when I visited my nieces K class in 2000 and saw the exact same thing. The idea was to show girls other careers so they could think about some different options. So if their dad was an engineer, he could take her into work and show her that. Or if her mom was a legal secretary, she could take her and then she might get broader exposure to the world of lawyers. But everyone forgot the purpose so it kind of became meaningless and more just a way to show “this is where your mom spends all her time when she’s not with you.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's sexist and exclusionary.

More girls already go to college now. If women aren't making it in the world now, they have only themselves to blame.

It's either take your kids to work day or nothing. And let's be honest, take your kids to work day is nothing more than a zero productivity day of free babysitting on the company's dime and parents all leave work early.

Waste of time and money.


I feel the same way about white men.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My company back in 1992 did Take your Daughter to Work Day when it first started.

We targeted 13-16 year girls in year one. They all dressed in business clothes. Was extremely professional, of the girls who attended many went on to be interns our company in college and some joined us after college graduation. This was New York Stock Exchange.

By 2003 became take your kids to work day and they added sons. Which made no sense in places like Wall Street which was trying to attract women.

Around 2003- 2019 they kept lowering the ages to attend to like 5-10 and became a day of pizza parties, games and coloring books. A nonsense day. No longer any value to company or participants.

Covid came in 2020 and seems most companies never restarted it.

How did in my case 1993 where we had HS aged women on trading floor at NYSE in trading vests learning how to trade stocks, attended opening and closing bell, attend lunch in executive cafeteria, meet with CEO, tour market operations and have formal meetings to learn about various departments and learn about how a stock exchange works by 2006 became little kids eating pizza and candy and by 2020 be done.

Was a great idea. Who killed it? Can we bring it back to how it was intended?


Is it not beneficial to women for their sons to see them in professional action?


Was the original purpose of the program to introduce girls to careers traditionally unavailable to them (like NYSE PP suggests), or was it to gain respect for women in the workforce?


Is there a reason it can't be both?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My company back in 1992 did Take your Daughter to Work Day when it first started.

We targeted 13-16 year girls in year one. They all dressed in business clothes. Was extremely professional, of the girls who attended many went on to be interns our company in college and some joined us after college graduation. This was New York Stock Exchange.

By 2003 became take your kids to work day and they added sons. Which made no sense in places like Wall Street which was trying to attract women.

Around 2003- 2019 they kept lowering the ages to attend to like 5-10 and became a day of pizza parties, games and coloring books. A nonsense day. No longer any value to company or participants.

Covid came in 2020 and seems most companies never restarted it.

How did in my case 1993 where we had HS aged women on trading floor at NYSE in trading vests learning how to trade stocks, attended opening and closing bell, attend lunch in executive cafeteria, meet with CEO, tour market operations and have formal meetings to learn about various departments and learn about how a stock exchange works by 2006 became little kids eating pizza and candy and by 2020 be done.

Was a great idea. Who killed it? Can we bring it back to how it was intended?


Is it not beneficial to women for their sons to see them in professional action?


When girls see other women in the office/work environment they believe they can do it too. There is nothing stopping anyone taking their son to wok but, you missed the point by your comment


DP-you didn't answer the question posed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men ruin everything.

Every. Thing.


Mom of just girls has joined the chat.


I'm actually not a girl mom. I've raised two boys/men, who are not incels, not sexists or misogynists.

It's quite possible to raise strong, successful men who are 100% supportive of their female colleagues, and their future wives/daughters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Men ruin everything.

Every. Thing.


Mom of just girls has joined the chat.


I'm actually not a girl mom. I've raised two boys/men, who are not incels, not sexists or misogynists.

It's quite possible to raise strong, successful men who are 100% supportive of their female colleagues, and their future wives/daughters.


Except you were never target audience. Even when we allowed boys.

At the Stock Exchange and JP Morgan back in 1990s for instance. They had a lot of HS Educated staff who lived in the Bronx, Staten Island. Many worked in the Cafeteria, Mailroom, Accounts Payable, Facilities, Branches, back office, loan processing, trade settlement etc. No one in their family may have ever attended college. They worked long hours commuting into NYC on subway, Path, LIRR, NJ Transit

On that day the mainly men and the women who were working (who did not get to spend much time with their own daughters) got dressed up, the Girls wore their Sunday Best, meet CEO, meet the SVPs, go on a tour of work, learned about the departments. The lunch in the Chase Executive Cafeteria they held at ONE CMP in Downtown NYC on the 60th floor was a wonder. Views of World Trade Center, Statue of Liberty and could see straight up to Empire State Building. And at the Stock Exchange you could dine at the he Luncheon Club. which was "the grandest of places for people in business." To be granted permission to dine at the Luncheon Club you must be an employee of the NYSE or an invited client, the girls dined there.

KPMG at time at at 345 Park Avenue was mainly male partners in 1995 who worked a lot of house. They had a glorious conference center and breath taking views up on the 50th floor, you could see right down on St. Pats Cathedral and Grand Central and Central Park. The Women Partners of time would be really strong at presenting and encouraging the girls attending to consider a career in accounting. These were older girls at time around 12-16 at time in life when picking a major/ At KPMG the many staff in mail room, producing printouts, working in file room, secretaries was a chance to show their daughters they too can do this. And also for many of the Dads or Moms the only time they ever got to personally meet CEO and dine in executive cafeteria and meet the Partners and SVPs

My job is boring I would not want to bring a girl or boy to work with me and just sit in my office. But back when it was a big fancy event was amazing. And I voluntered at these events in the 1990s pre-children and my Department was part of the Tour.

One thing I enjoyed was back around 1995 when PowerPoint was relativly new and kids did not have computer in school or most even the internet at home. We did a PowerPoint Project at end of day. We set up four teams, each had to do a ten minute PowerPoint presentation in the Board Room of what they learned that day. They created it themselves, all had to speak and we invited all the parents back to the Boardroom to watch and the CEO was judge with Exec team on best presentation. It was shockling good. The girls were excelent. Sadly, my CEO decided it was a four way tie and everyone won the prizes. We even had a professional photo person, and pictures were shared with parents afterwards.

30 years ago at Take our Daughters wto work day is now a forgotten relic. Was great.



I was at all three companies events. Pre boys with running noses running up and down the hallways, coloring books and pizza parties.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I went with my father as a teenager and it was pretty interesting. I think bringing the ages down is what killed it. No kid under 13 is getting anything out of seeing a workplace. It just becomes snacks and coloring day. It really ought to be about exposing teens to an adult workplace.


+1. It became a carnival (I’m at NIH and this is what it essentially is now) with games and handouts, instead of showing kids what we do.


This is how it is at my company. It's really programmed for elementary school kids (arts & crafts, scavenger hunts, etc.) vs. the tweens/teens who might actually learn something about different jobs.


Your career is pretty much defined by the time you start high school. Colleges take all 4 years of high school grades into account. If you screw up once you’re not getting into a top college.

Better to target middle schoolers


Such BS. Your career is defined daily through your adult actions. At any time you can switch careers, people do it every day. It will take hard work, and likely starting at the very bottom, but a career is a very flexible, evolving thing. It's not pre-defined, and not always an uphill trajectory.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I went with my father as a teenager and it was pretty interesting. I think bringing the ages down is what killed it. No kid under 13 is getting anything out of seeing a workplace. It just becomes snacks and coloring day. It really ought to be about exposing teens to an adult workplace.


+1. It became a carnival (I’m at NIH and this is what it essentially is now) with games and handouts, instead of showing kids what we do.


This is how it is at my company. It's really programmed for elementary school kids (arts & crafts, scavenger hunts, etc.) vs. the tweens/teens who might actually learn something about different jobs.


Your career is pretty much defined by the time you start high school. Colleges take all 4 years of high school grades into account. If you screw up once you’re not getting into a top college.

Better to target middle schoolers

Your tone seems facetious, but I actually agree with you.

I was a child of the 90’s and my dad worked at a lab that made a big event out of Take Your Child to Work Day. I went every year from late-elementary through junior high. By the time I was high school age, it was harder to skip a day of school when we were prepping for finals and AP exams so I never went those years.
Anonymous
DH still take the kids (boys and girls) each year.
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