I was just listening to one of those and found myself involuntarily thinking, "Everybody hates this guy, right?" I mean he is just SO full of himself, crapping on kids I ways that are just unnecessary. You can see his machinations to uncoordinated students so they'll commit money to him (the guru). Yuck. |
You hit the nail on the head with this comment. This underscores almost the entire college counseling industry. They make you think you NEED their expertise to help you navigate the process. They purposely make it seem harder than it is. |
+1 |
Even DCUM’s favorite podcast YCBK trashes independent counselors. |
I agree with the advice to not apply early HYPS unless you are hooked. But that does not mean I would encourage a kid to ED somewhere. you’re right — a lot of consultants do that. We called Solomon etc for DD whose dream school was MIT. They said to aim lower. We lays thanks but no thanks — she was admitted to MIT. And FTR, she applied to Stanford REA unhooked and was rejected — so that’s why I agree with the advice to not REA/SCEA unless hooked. |
My unhooked kid got into HYP SCEA this year.
Hard to look at individual outcomes. I think top independent counselors push locking down spots at a *slightly* lower ranked school. But they care a LOT about rankings. My kid’s list leaned a lot more on fit and major. If they didn’t get into SCEA, felt really good about the applications that were ready to go to a whole range of schools. |
Aren't the people running ycbk ind counselors too? |
Interesting. My kid had similar “surprising” T20 admits in the last two years and a big name private college counselor we consulted was very negative about chances (didn’t hire) as was App Nation - which we’d joined (they suggested T50-75 reaches and only 1 T25 reach). Two years ago, my wasian kid was admitted to 4 T20/25 (applied to 10+ reaches in RD) and several top SLACs. Currently at a T10. Not using any “paid help” for rising senior now, though truthfully, I’ve learned a lot about the process from being on here, Reddit and on application nation/ANalumni as well as other FB groups. You can learn everything you need to online. Or in podcasts. You just need the time. |
My best friend inquired about his services and learned that if you want your child to work with him, you will have to pay $4,000 per month for unlimited services, even for sophomore or junior year. |
Yes, but last Thursday’s episode he and Julia trashed working with independent counselors. Seems dumb on his part but maybe DCUM keeps him in business. |
A friend had a horrible time with him this past cycle. Beware. Ask to speak to recent (last cycle) references. |
AN seems to have outdated advice. What do you think made the difference for your kid? |
+1 avoid |
+2 AN advises not submitting 4 AP scores on applications if you don’t have a lot of 5s to go along with it. Every other college counselor I have talked to or seen on social media says to report all your 4s and 5s without exception. I think Sara is outdated on this advice, but who knows? |
New episode tearing apart Yale and Stanford apps dropped. I can’t find a transcript yet? Anyone have a link |