SSL Hours for Religious Activities and the First Amendment

[Anonymous]

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It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

If it were purely playing with toddlers, it would probably be ok. If their were age appropriate kids services or kids religious education, that wouldn’t be ok under the current policy.

I think you are missing the point point: why can kids get ssl hours by volunteering at for-profit business ventures?

They can’t. They have to be non profit

Then how are kids getting SSL hours at field of screams?

They do not appear on the approved organization list so I’m not sure why you believe students are getting volunteer hours volunteering for that entity.

Because they do…every year.

Signed,

Olney’s Mom

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

The money raised at field of screams goes have into OBGC to help with FA for kids to play sports.
I’m ok with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

If it were purely playing with toddlers, it would probably be ok. If their were age appropriate kids services or kids religious education, that wouldn’t be ok under the current policy.

I think you are missing the point point: why can kids get ssl hours by volunteering at for-profit business ventures?

They can’t. They have to be non profit

Oh, that’s not true. There are all sorts of random ‘non-profits’ that kids get SSL for in MoCO. Where the

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

The money raised at field of screams goes have into OBGC to help with FA for kids to play sports.
I’m ok with that.

And I’m okay with a kid volunteering at a mosque to baby-sit kids while their parents worship.

Who gets to decide what is ‘ok’?

You worship sports and some parents worship at a temple/mosque.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

If it were purely playing with toddlers, it would probably be ok. If their were age appropriate kids services or kids religious education, that wouldn’t be ok under the current policy.

I think you are missing the point point: why can kids get ssl hours by volunteering at for-profit business ventures?

They can’t. They have to be non profit

Oh, that’s not true. There are all sorts of random ‘non-profits’ that kids get SSL for in MoCO. Where the

There are so many kids who get a gazillion SSL hours for volunteering as a counselor in training at normal summer camps that parents pay 500-700$/week for. I haven’t looked into how these camps are incorporated but I would be surprised if most were non-profits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

If it were purely playing with toddlers, it would probably be ok. If their were age appropriate kids services or kids religious education, that wouldn’t be ok under the current policy.

I think you are missing the point point: why can kids get ssl hours by volunteering at for-profit business ventures?

They can’t. They have to be non profit

Oh, that’s not true. There are all sorts of random ‘non-profits’ that kids get SSL for in MoCO. Where the

There are so many kids who get a gazillion SSL hours for volunteering as a counselor in training at normal summer camps that parents pay 500-700$/week for. I haven’t looked into how these camps are incorporated but I would be surprised if most were non-profits.

Is the Sandy Spring friends summer camp for profit or nonprofit because kids get buckets of SSL hours from them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

If it were purely playing with toddlers, it would probably be ok. If their were age appropriate kids services or kids religious education, that wouldn’t be ok under the current policy.

I think you are missing the point point: why can kids get ssl hours by volunteering at for-profit business ventures?

They can’t. They have to be non profit

Oh, that’s not true. There are all sorts of random ‘non-profits’ that kids get SSL for in MoCO. Where the

Well if these “random ‘non-profits’” are in fact non-profits, then what PP said is true.

That you may believe they are “random” and shouldn’t be considered “non-profits” doesn’t change their 501(c)(3) designation or that a policy requiring SSL hours to be for non-profits (if that is the case) is not being followed.

CEOs of “non-profit” hospitals can make millions, so many businesses that don’t operate much like non-profits are in fact set up that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

If it were purely playing with toddlers, it would probably be ok. If their were age appropriate kids services or kids religious education, that wouldn’t be ok under the current policy.

I think you are missing the point point: why can kids get ssl hours by volunteering at for-profit business ventures?

They can’t. They have to be non profit

Oh, that’s not true. There are all sorts of random ‘non-profits’ that kids get SSL for in MoCO. Where the

There are so many kids who get a gazillion SSL hours for volunteering as a counselor in training at normal summer camps that parents pay 500-700$/week for. I haven’t looked into how these camps are incorporated but I would be surprised if most were non-profits.

Is the Sandy Spring friends summer camp for profit or nonprofit because kids get buckets of SSL hours from them. [/quote

Levine School of Music does too. An MCPS gym teacher gave out SSL hours for teens volunteering at his camp. I would be surprised if they are all non-profits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

The money raised at field of screams goes have into OBGC to help with FA for kids to play sports.
I’m ok with that.

There is a person who benefits financially from FOS and obgc due to land use and his very profitable business venture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

If it were purely playing with toddlers, it would probably be ok. If their were age appropriate kids services or kids religious education, that wouldn’t be ok under the current policy.

I think you are missing the point point: why can kids get ssl hours by volunteering at for-profit business ventures?

They can’t. They have to be non profit

Oh, that’s not true. There are all sorts of random ‘non-profits’ that kids get SSL for in MoCO. Where the

There are so many kids who get a gazillion SSL hours for volunteering as a counselor in training at normal summer camps that parents pay 500-700$/week for. I haven’t looked into how these camps are incorporated but I would be surprised if most were non-profits.

Is the Sandy Spring friends summer camp for profit or nonprofit because kids get buckets of SSL hours from them.

It's not just the Sandy Spring Friends summer camp. It's all these random sports camps like KOA. Heck, you can actually PAY KOA so that your kid can get SSL hours from them.

It's all such a joke.

[Anonymous]

There are pretty clear rules on this from MCPS.

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/ssl/pages/faq/

“Representatives from nonprofit, tax exempt organizations interested in becoming an MCPS SSL organization must register with the MCVC, attend an orientation and show proof of nonprofit, tax-exempt status. Nonprofit organizations must agree to the overall MCPS SSL guidelines and provide yearly updates of information.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone should file a lawsuit.

It seems wrong that teens can get SSL hours at a for-profit business like Olney’s Field of Screams yet can’t get SSL hours through their church.

As explained in the post above, they can get SSL hours through their church. Just not for proselytizing.

But they can’t get ssl hours for playing with toddlers in the church basement while their parents attend mass—yet they can get SSL hours for “volunteering” at Olney’s Field of Screams which is a for-profit venture that benefits a wealthy guy.

If it were purely playing with toddlers, it would probably be ok. If their were age appropriate kids services or kids religious education, that wouldn’t be ok under the current policy.

I think you are missing the point point: why can kids get ssl hours by volunteering at for-profit business ventures?

They can’t. They have to be non profit

Oh, that’s not true. There are all sorts of random ‘non-profits’ that kids get SSL for in MoCO. Where the

There are so many kids who get a gazillion SSL hours for volunteering as a counselor in training at normal summer camps that parents pay 500-700$/week for. I haven’t looked into how these camps are incorporated but I would be surprised if most were non-profits.

Is the Sandy Spring friends summer camp for profit or nonprofit because kids get buckets of SSL hours from them.

It's not just the Sandy Spring Friends summer camp. It's all these random sports camps like KOA. Heck, you can actually PAY KOA so that your kid can get SSL hours from them.

It's all such a joke.

I don’t know about KOA but Sandy spring friends, which is run by the Quaker church is certainly a nonprofit.

[Anonymous]

My kids’ school encouraged all students yesterday to earn SSL hours by volunteering at the Freestate Justice Name Change Clinic for LGBTQIA Maryland residents.
I guess that it’s not religious though so that’s ok???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids’ school encouraged all students yesterday to earn SSL hours by volunteering at the Freestate Justice Name Change Clinic for LGBTQIA Maryland residents.
I guess that it’s not religious though so that’s ok???

Read the FAQ - kids can earn SSL hours from religious organizations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids’ school encouraged all students yesterday to earn SSL hours by volunteering at the Freestate Justice Name Change Clinic for LGBTQIA Maryland residents.
I guess that it’s not religious though so that’s ok???

Read the FAQ - kids can earn SSL hours from religious organizations.

OP knows that. It’s been pointed out like 16 times on the thread and the written policy on SSL hours earned at Faith Based organizations has also been shared multiple times. Some people don’t want to listen to facts, they just want to claim victimhood. Can’t argue with those people.