The state of public education - CNN article about illiterate graduate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

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Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

Do you always blame children when adults fail them or when they have a disability?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents are culpable more than the schools. How do you not notice your kid can’t read or write?

Wasn't there a significant language/educational barrier? I don't think the mom is literate (in English).

Language barrier is irrelevant. Wouldn’t the parent notice she can’t read or write Spanish either?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

Do you always blame children when adults fail them or when they have a disability?

I don't consider being a Grade A hole a disability. I'm suprised that you do.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is at fault but her and her family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

Do you always blame children when adults fail them or when they have a disability?

I don't consider being a Grade A hole a disability. I'm suprised that you do.

The only grade a hole is you calling a child with a disability a grade a hole. I know cruelty is in right now and she is brown but at least try to pretend that you have a soul.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How the hell is any kid diagnosed with ODD allowed to stay in school. The diagnosis is literally just an acknowledgment that the kid does not behave even remotely appropriately and should not be expected by anyone to do so.

Outrageous.

Seriously. I don't know how anyone can look at the symptoms and not understand that.


1. Often loses temper
2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed
3. Is often angry and resentful
4. Often argues with authority figures or, for children and adolescents, with adults
5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
6. Often deliberately annoys others
7. Often blames others for their own mistakes or misbehavior
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months

How can those set of symptoms be accommodated? How can any teacher teach someone with those symptoms? How can any other students learn in a class with someone allowed to do those behaviors? How can any parent blame a school system for not teaching a kid with those symptoms?

ODD can be misdiagnosed. A child who is not being supported to learn, at all it sounds like here, will act out in anyway she can. I suspect (although obviously I am guessing here) that if the school gave her intensive learning interventions back when she was 5 she might never have received this diagnosis.

Maybe. The only case where I know of a student with this behavior, he could not read. He was never able to learn to read. He repeated 8th grade 3 times, then quit school. Before 8th, he got social promotion, as near as anyone can tell. Eventually, he got a job as a laborer on a construction site, but he never moved up in construction to any trade or skilled work, because he could not read.

The root cause was fetal alcohol syndrome, meaning underlying brain damage in utero. This was in a middle class suburban area, not at all urban, not ghetto, and the student was as white as a sheet (and was not any ethnic minority). Father owned a successful small business. Mother was SAHM, but had been a secretary. Both parents were good readers, neither parents were alcoholics, but they did like to drink wine/beer/cocktails before dinner every day. No amount of intervention would have changed the child’s inability to read - because the underlying in utero brain damage from alcohol exposure was not fixable. Tragic, really.

I don't buy that the mother wasn't an alcoholic.
I had the occasional martini during my pregnancies. One kid scored 1570 on his first SAT, the other one 1500.
In another age, the only non-contanimated means of hydration was ale or wine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

Do you always blame children when adults fail them or when they have a disability?

I don't consider being a Grade A hole a disability. I'm suprised that you do.

The only grade a hole is you calling a child with a disability a grade a hole. I know cruelty is in right now and she is brown but at least try to pretend that you have a soul.

1. Often loses temper
2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed
3. Is often angry and resentful
4. Often argues with authority figures or, for children and adolescents, with adults
5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
6. Often deliberately annoys others
7. Often blames others for their own mistakes or misbehavior
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months

What do you call someone that demonstrates that list of behaviors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents are culpable more than the schools. How do you not notice your kid can’t read or write?

Wasn't there a significant language/educational barrier? I don't think the mom is literate (in English).

She didn't seem literate in parenting either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

Do you always blame children when adults fail them or when they have a disability?

I don't consider being a Grade A hole a disability. I'm suprised that you do.

The only grade a hole is you calling a child with a disability a grade a hole. I know cruelty is in right now and she is brown but at least try to pretend that you have a soul.

1. Often loses temper
2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed
3. Is often angry and resentful
4. Often argues with authority figures or, for children and adolescents, with adults
5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
6. Often deliberately annoys others
7. Often blames others for their own mistakes or misbehavior
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months

What do you call someone that demonstrates that list of behaviors?

She has a disability. Even you admit that. Kids with disabilities often develop these symptoms. It’s not at all usual for a child who is struggling so much at school to develop ODD. Please go educate yourself before you spew any more hate towards a disabled child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

Do you always blame children when adults fail them or when they have a disability?

I don't consider being a Grade A hole a disability. I'm suprised that you do.

The only grade a hole is you calling a child with a disability a grade a hole. I know cruelty is in right now and she is brown but at least try to pretend that you have a soul.

1. Often loses temper
2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed
3. Is often angry and resentful
4. Often argues with authority figures or, for children and adolescents, with adults
5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
6. Often deliberately annoys others
7. Often blames others for their own mistakes or misbehavior
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months

What do you call someone that demonstrates that list of behaviors?

My kid had an ODD classmate in her G&T class. That kid was such an a-hole and the mother was really checked out. Then she had a 3rd child and everybody REALLY avoided her. I remember being in the public library afterschool and her new baby was crawling towards the stairs that lead DOWN. The mom was just sitting there not paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

Do you always blame children when adults fail them or when they have a disability?

I don't consider being a Grade A hole a disability. I'm suprised that you do.

The only grade a hole is you calling a child with a disability a grade a hole. I know cruelty is in right now and she is brown but at least try to pretend that you have a soul.

1. Often loses temper
2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed
3. Is often angry and resentful
4. Often argues with authority figures or, for children and adolescents, with adults
5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
6. Often deliberately annoys others
7. Often blames others for their own mistakes or misbehavior
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months

What do you call someone that demonstrates that list of behaviors?

She has a disability. Even you admit that. Kids with disabilities often develop these symptoms. It’s not at all usual for a child who is struggling so much at school to develop ODD. Please go educate yourself before you spew any more hate towards a disabled child.

ODD is not a disability. It is nothing more than a bonafide a hole certification.

There are a lot of a holes in the world including an especially prominent one right now. I do not think they have a disability. And I most certainly don't think that that a piece of paper gives them the right to be an a hole. Do you?

[Anonymous]

Defund public schools

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Anonymous wrote:“Two days before graduation, she says, school district officials told her she could defer accepting the diploma in exchange for intensive services. Aleysha didn’t listen.

“I decided, they (the school) had 12 years,” she says. “Now it’s my time.”

Ridiculous. She has no reason to blame anyone if she didn’t choose to stay. They already promised to help, but she didn’t want help. She just wanted fame and cash. I am horrified by the stupidity of whomever called her a feminist icon. A feminist icon would have trashed the help and worked twice as hard to catch up.

Or she wanted national attention on issues that so many other kids are dealing with? Which she is not getting. Why do you think this is resonating with some many people? Because it’s happens way too often. She unlike you isn’t only looking out for herself.

Read the freaking list of ODD symptoms. She has been officially diagnosed with not GAF about anyone else, being an a-hole, and blaming others for her own mistakes. Those are literally the symptoms of her disability.

Do you always blame children when adults fail them or when they have a disability?

I don't consider being a Grade A hole a disability. I'm suprised that you do.

The only grade a hole is you calling a child with a disability a grade a hole. I know cruelty is in right now and she is brown but at least try to pretend that you have a soul.

1. Often loses temper
2. Is often touchy or easily annoyed
3. Is often angry and resentful
4. Often argues with authority figures or, for children and adolescents, with adults
5. Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
6. Often deliberately annoys others
7. Often blames others for their own mistakes or misbehavior
8. Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past six months

What do you call someone that demonstrates that list of behaviors?

She has a disability. Even you admit that. Kids with disabilities often develop these symptoms. It’s not at all usual for a child who is struggling so much at school to develop ODD. Please go educate yourself before you spew any more hate towards a disabled child.

ODD is not a disability. It is nothing more than a bonafide a hole certification.

There are a lot of a holes in the world including an especially prominent one right now. I do not think they have a disability. And I most certainly don't think that that a piece of paper gives them the right to be an a hole. Do you?

Where did I say ODD was her disability? Please stop calling a child a hole. You lose (actually you already lost) all credibility when you do that. She has learning disabilities and as a result she also developed ODD. You know nothing about learning disabilities or how children who grow up with them cope. You just know how to be a grade a hole yourself.