If you left APS for private…
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Anonymous
They skipped the study guides, never memorized vocab words for their foreign language, etc? Fascinating. Maybe the kid cheats. |
Anonymous
How old exactly are your kids? You claim to have multiple sets of kids that are now in college, and also a current 9th grader? Who has friends that take wl’s ap world class this year (there are only two sections)? According to my daughter only five people between those two sections has an a. I’m sorry but you sound like a troll. I went to a private school for highschool (visitation) and my sister went to ncs. Visitation had a lot more work back then. Each teacher was supposed to assign an hour of homework a night and there wasn’t block scheduling, so you were supposed to have a minimum of 5 hours of homework a night. I hate to break it to you but there were kids that spent 1.5-3 hours on homework there and kids who only spent maybe thirty minutes (and got the same grades). I was one of the kids that didn’t need to spend as much time on homework— I would be done with my work within an hour and other kids would be still working until 2 or 3 am. It evened out by the time we were juniors since I took more aps than other kids. So maybe your kids are not as efficient or smart as you think they are? My nieces are currently freshman and sophomores at ncs, and they are not spending 3 hours a night on homework. My daughter literally has more work than they do (just looking at assignments and associated rigor). I’ll leave you with one last thought— most people cannot handle working 11+ hours a day for more than a decade. I know so many people from highschool that had anxiety disorders or eating disorders, and I really think it was due to the stress. So many people I know from highschool went to an ivy but then dropped out by graduation due to mental health issues or eating disorders. It’s really sad. I also know so many girls who may have graduated college but never actually used their degree. They pursued things that don’t require a degree like being a chef, photography, or art and talking to them they said it was because they needed a break and were burned out. For me personally, I worked so hard in highschool those last two years — I took five ap classes both years and I was so so burned out by the time I started college. College was “easy” compared to highschool, but I was just so mentally and physically tired from years of sleep deprivation and stress. Frankly it was unnecessary. Everybody ended up in the same place. |
Anonymous
I think this is an important point and one I'd like to hear more about. For people who switched to private, did you find that your kids were behind the private school kids? PP above says her APS middle school "slackers" were well prepared for a Big 3 high school. My APS grads, despite not having 3 hours of homework per night, have done extremely well in college, even compared with their private school peers. |
Anonymous
| Where did the idea that 3 hours of homework per night is a good thing come from? That sounds dreadful. I sure as hell didn't do that of work when I was a kid in public school, and look at me now -- gainfully employed, successful in the workplace, making good money. |
Anonymous
1). Not a troll. Kids I knew in AP World at W&L are last year. So what do you want me to say? 2). You went to visi years ago — time and the kind of school just means you really have no clue about what you are talking about for current Big3 students. 3). I’ve repeatedly acknowledged and noted in my post that the workload is not a positive for many people. It seems that you too think it’s “bad.” (Look, there’s all kind of things that people think are “bad” about the privates or about publics; those are what we call value judgments.). And it’s a justifiable reason to not choose those private schools. But, the homework hours is a significant difference between APS and those schools, which is what OP was asking. That, and the writing in my view. |
Anonymous
Homework being a good thing is less about the amount of time it takes and more about the sheer amount of repetition required to learn anything (as proven again, and again, and again by neuroscience and ignored by many education "experts"). Homework should be the amount of work required to get to mastery on material taught - not more, not less. |
Anonymous
I mean what do you do? Many jobs are not academic in nature, like sales, modeling, plumbing… |
Anonymous
+1 plus the ability to test retention as it is time shifted from the lesson and less stressful than a test, also independently executed. |
Anonymous
APS is very focused on mastery, but IMO doesn't have kids practice certain skills enough in elementary. Mostly, I think kids need a lot more repetition of math skills and to spend more time reading and writing than APS requires. I've supplemented math to add repetition in elementary, for fluency and speed, and my kids are big readers. I haven't had as much success supplementing writing, but it is what it is. In APS 6th grade pre-algebra my kid has had a ton of math practice because they're trying to have the kids to all of the IXL lessons for 6th, 7th and 8th grade all in one year. It's been excellent practice. I don't know if that pace will continue, but so far MS has picked up the pace from elementary expectations in a good way, at least in math. (Cue the obnoxious parents who say their budding genius doesn't need to practice math ever--they are naturally a human calculator. As a STEM PhD married to an engineer, I disagree for all but actual genius-prodigies. Nearly all students need to do a lot of math problems to become fully fluent.) |
Anonymous
I should have been clearer in my post. Since we were discussing work at home, I thought it was obvious. My children never studied for a test at home. To further elaborate, all of that study guide practice done at school, moreover, was for a grade. It was an assignment. I never saw them or heard them say had they just “studied.” |
Anonymous
My experience with multiple children passing through the same grades at different times with different teachers at the same middle school belies this explanation. |
Anonymous
Do you have a job? Given your extremely low EQ I'm guessing it's a struggle for you to keep a job. |
Anonymous
My straight A smart kid took World Geo in 8th grade (like they all do) and had to study for mapping tests as just one example. There is a lot of time in the school day if a kid had no desire to socialize. Maybe PP's kid does this. And yes a ton of them cheat. |
Anonymous
100% agree with this. |
Anonymous
I asked you a question, and you criticize me. I am a computer scientist, so yes not much need for EQ in my role, not sure why my asking if your job is built on academics shows a lack of that. I’m guessing you aren’t a model or in sales if is asking about your career path makes you so bitter you engage in ad hominem attacks. |