How to know a college is safe for POC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC is interested in a top LAC, but, after checking the CDS, there were only 22 black students in a class of 436 accepted this most recent cycle- 1/3 of past cycles.

DS currently goes to a boarding school that isn’t racist, but he also wouldn’t call tolerant. He was really hoping to be able to go to a college of his choice but also find community, so this has been very disappointing. Should we throw in the towel?

If the kid's academics and ECs are in line with the purported 1580, then just apply to a HYPS type school that would have a larger black population.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

Not all of them are, but the networking opportunities at the large ones (Howard, Florida A&M, NC A&T, Morehouse/Spelman) are immaculate.

+1 they are elite in the circles that matter to those individuals

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Where did OP say her child is too good for HBCUs?

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student."

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Why?
Howard:
Average SAT Composite 1184
Average ACT Composite 24
Their 4 year graduation rate is 52%, which is the best amongst coed hbcus in the entire nation. The students had to sleep and protest in tents because their dorms had mold. They’ve had many financial aid scandals. What about any of this screams to everyone that this is where OP’s son has to go and him being clearly above the standards here is offensive? Mind you, this is at the best HBCU.

Then she has to decide what her priories are, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING.

You don't see any nuance between a school with 22 total Black students and an HBCU?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Where did OP say her child is too good for HBCUs?

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student."

Where did OP say her child is too good for HBCUs?

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Where did OP say her child is too good for HBCUs?

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student."

Where did OP say her child is too good for HBCUs?

Man, you're dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Where did OP say her child is too good for HBCUs?

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student."

Have you seen the stats of the average student at HBCU? One would have to be in deep denial and throw themselves into a pretzel to think a student of this caliber isn’t above those at an hbcu

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Why?
Howard:
Average SAT Composite 1184
Average ACT Composite 24
Their 4 year graduation rate is 52%, which is the best amongst coed hbcus in the entire nation. The students had to sleep and protest in tents because their dorms had mold. They’ve had many financial aid scandals. What about any of this screams to everyone that this is where OP’s son has to go and him being clearly above the standards here is offensive? Mind you, this is at the best HBCU.

Then she has to decide what her priories are, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING.

You don't see any nuance between a school with 22 total Black students and an HBCU?

Then she can look at other SLACs instead of whining about this particular one. Why is this so complicated for her?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Where did OP say her child is too good for HBCUs?

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student."

Have you seen the stats of the average student at HBCU? One would have to be in deep denial and throw themselves into a pretzel to think a student of this caliber isn’t above those at an hbcu

Do I need to explain to your what "average" means?

[Anonymous]

Take a look at southern colleges particularly those in the SEC. They have larger minority populations than local colleges in the northeast.

UF, FSU, Georgia, Ole Miss,Alabama, Auburn etc

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Anonymous wrote:Kids apply and go to colleges they wish to attend. There are multiple efforts to reach out to various communities to entice them to apply and attend. Nevertheless, as your son illustrates, people generally want to be with people who look and act like themselves.

Has your son considered HBCUs? If that's his primary focus, there might be a good fit there. Otherwise, he may need to expand his search and look at data to decide whether there is enough of a critical mass of people like him to make him wish to attend. You only mention one school--I'm quite sure there are others with data more to your liking.

I wish him the best in his search.

No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor. Hbcus are great, but it’s annoying that it’s assumed black students will just walk to one.

You want more black people for him but then put HBCU’s down because he is too good for them academically.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

There’s more than a handful of talented black students. The assumption that all the black talent is at HBCUs is just lazy, blatant racism.

"No he hasn’t considered hbcus, because he is a top student. He has a 1580 and great course rigor."

Um, who are you calling racist, exactly? OP wants a college where her child won't stick out racially, but won't consider Ft. Valley State with its 92% black student body because her 1580 child is too good for it. Sounds like she's the one with preconceived notions.

What a bunch of bull$hit. Yes, let’s all bring our top students to a college with a 39% graduation rate and an average sat in the 900s (remember you get an 800 for opening a page). Op is a racist for thinking their child might just be better than those students.

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Why?
Howard:
Average SAT Composite 1184
Average ACT Composite 24
Their 4 year graduation rate is 52%, which is the best amongst coed hbcus in the entire nation. The students had to sleep and protest in tents because their dorms had mold. They’ve had many financial aid scandals. What about any of this screams to everyone that this is where OP’s son has to go and him being clearly above the standards here is offensive? Mind you, this is at the best HBCU.

Then she has to decide what her priories are, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING.

You don't see any nuance between a school with 22 total Black students and an HBCU?

Then she can look at other SLACs instead of whining about this particular one. Why is this so complicated for her?

You could also stop taking everyone’s oxygen and go somewhere else. She literally asked for opinions on an LAC environment and expressed concerns. She didn’t even condemn the college her dc is interested in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With the way parents are defending hbcus, you’d think there’d be more white kids at these schools! I didn’t know they were so elite

No one's defending them. A few people pointed out they exist, and when OP said her child is too good for them, people took issue.

Why?
Howard:
Average SAT Composite 1184
Average ACT Composite 24
Their 4 year graduation rate is 52%, which is the best amongst coed hbcus in the entire nation. The students had to sleep and protest in tents because their dorms had mold. They’ve had many financial aid scandals. What about any of this screams to everyone that this is where OP’s son has to go and him being clearly above the standards here is offensive? Mind you, this is at the best HBCU.

Then she has to decide what her priories are, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN SAYING.

You don't see any nuance between a school with 22 total Black students and an HBCU?

Then she can look at other SLACs instead of whining about this particular one. Why is this so complicated for her?

You could also stop taking everyone’s oxygen and go somewhere else. She literally asked for opinions on an LAC environment and expressed concerns. She didn’t even condemn the college her dc is interested in.

But she did?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Troll.

But on the off chance you're not, you need to come to the fast realization that lack of diversity does not make a university "unsafe". Whatever that means.

Also, HBCUs are a thing.

Oh, screw it...you're definitely a troll.

Not a troll. Why can I not be concerned for my child to be an extreme minority in a majority white and Asian institution? It’d be incredibly naive to assume people will be ladidada inclusive.

Are you? Kids tend to not think about race in a way their parents do. They make close friendships and date and create businesses etc. It is the parents who push the need for being with x group. Have your child look at schools and some LAC offer weekend programs for applying students. Reach out to admissions and address your concerns. Maybe they will put you in touch with a current student.

[Anonymous]

Didn’t know DCUM thought so little of test scores. Maybe they’ll start advocating for the 1200 students at ivies since they mean nothing now!