RTO and No Childcare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason why 1950s America was better.

For white mothers.
Black mothers didn’t have that privilege

My working class white grandmother had to work too.

Yes, the blatant racism on this board has got to stop. My white immigrant grandmother worked as a maid from age 16-60. My other white grandmother worked as a "lunch lady" at the local public school from 6am until 3pm, when real food was actually cooked there.

The kids just had to grow up faster and learn to take care of themselves.

Are you saying people here are racist against white people?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue for me is the 8-6 in office requirement. Right now, I work 8-5, pick up my kids, and then work a few more hours at home in the evening. Daycare closes at 6 and I have a 45 minute commute, so I'm not sure what I will go if the 8-6 requirement goes into effect.

Right. I think that is what the childcare threads are talking about. It’s not lack of childcare it’s the commutes along with the 8-6pm requirement. If before care and aftercare is from 7:30-6 and my commute is an hour it doesn’t work.

It works if there are TWO responsible parents. you stagger your days: DH does drop off and gets home later; DW does pickup and gets home earlier. When my kid was little and in daycare I left for work at 7:45, worked from 830-5, picked him up by 530, home by 6:15. DH dropped him off in the morning, got to the office later, and worked pretty late (maybe until 730 or so most nights).

Later on we got a part-time babysitter for after school so that made it even easier - we would stagger drop off at 8:30 and then the other just needed to be home around 6-630.

You clearly didn't read the post you're responding to. If there is an 8-6 requirement, you can't stagger schedules, there is no flexibility. And aftercares around us close at 6. They're not open until 6:30 or 7 so you can commute home for pickup.

I don't think an EO could just declare a 50 hour work week for feds though. I could be wrong, I could be wrong about a lot of stuff, but I think things like RTO and fixed hours are possible to change that quickly, a 25% increase in unpaid working hours is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not a lack of childcare that’s the problem; it’s that these women want to have it both ways. They don’t want to pay anyone else to watch their children, they prefer to fleece their employers.

It's not a women's issue. It's a family issue, a topic for men and women to address. In other words, it's a topic that affects every worker who is a parent and therefore the workplace needs to accommodate it somehow or other. If the workplace will not, then society must step up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a lack of childcare that’s the problem; it’s that these women want to have it both ways. They don’t want to pay anyone else to watch their children, they prefer to fleece their employers.

It's not a women's issue. It's a family issue, a topic for men and women to address. In other words, it's a topic that affects every worker who is a parent and therefore the workplace needs to accommodate it somehow or other. If the workplace will not, then society must step up.

Or people should just choose to not have kids. This is a terrible world to bring kids into anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything that gets the screaming kids off of my team zooom calls will be supported by me. So sick of it.

You must have a dysfunctional workplace, be underpaying employees, or have ineffective management. This doesn't happen in my workplace

- WFH mom of 2 young kids with FT childcare

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another reason why 1950s America was better.

For white mothers.
Black mothers didn’t have that privilege

My working class white grandmother had to work too.

And look at what that proves— nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that gets the screaming kids off of my team zooom calls will be supported by me. So sick of it.

You must have a dysfunctional workplace, be underpaying employees, or have ineffective management. This doesn't happen in my workplace

- WFH mom of 2 young kids with FT childcare

Sure it doesn’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anything that gets the screaming kids off of my team zooom calls will be supported by me. So sick of it.

You must have a dysfunctional workplace, be underpaying employees, or have ineffective management. This doesn't happen in my workplace

- WFH mom of 2 young kids with FT childcare

We're feds, so yes we're underpaying. And that makes it hard to recruit and backfill employees, so we can't be too strick on hiring and firing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Np, and I told a coworker last week that I suspected lack of childcare as the real reason many are flipping out over RTO. I also suspect some are working two jobs.

I think a lot of people are working two jobs. Like, a lot.

Yep. Probably damn near as many as are flipping out over childcare issues.

[Anonymous]

Most of the women in my company who tried to WFH and watch their preschoolers themselves in order to save on childcare were fired or forced to quit. Those of us who raised our children before the pandemic did not have it any easier than you all do. Wages have risen in our area commensurate with costs of housing, etc. Give me a break. You all had it easier than we did for a time, but now recess is over.

[Anonymous]

I just hope that maybe RTO will mean public schools abandon the "let's celebrate everyone's holidays with a day off" calendar that keeps kids out of school for half of September and October. I'm convinced it's crap like this that's the reason Harris lost.

[Anonymous]

What can we do? What is the solution? Don't we want better for our next generation? 🙏

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything that gets the screaming kids off of my team zooom calls will be supported by me. So sick of it.

You must have a dysfunctional workplace, be underpaying employees, or have ineffective management. This doesn't happen in my workplace

- WFH mom of 2 young kids with FT childcare

Sure it doesn’t.

I'm not sure how common it is. In my office, I'm by far the most likely person to have kids disrupting the calls. But in those cases, I'm almost always on sick leave, but dialing in to meetings that couldn't be rescheduled.

Few others have young kids. We used to have a very good environment for young families, but the Biden years have been surprisingly rough. Oddly, I think it was due to policies pushed by the women agency heads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What can we do? What is the solution? Don't we want better for our next generation? 🙏

The best next generation is no generation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most of the women in my company who tried to WFH and watch their preschoolers themselves in order to save on childcare were fired or forced to quit. Those of us who raised our children before the pandemic did not have it any easier than you all do. Wages have risen in our area commensurate with costs of housing, etc. Give me a break. You all had it easier than we did for a time, but now recess is over.

Not sure where you live, but wages haven't come close to keeping up with housing costs in the DMV. Child care costs have also skyrocketed compared to wages.