Northwestern v UChicago

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Anonymous wrote:NU parent here. NU used to be a place with a lot of really smart/serious students but also quite a few “ordinary” smart/social/athletic kids mixed in. As the acceptance rate has dwindled down to single digits, it seems like there are more of the former & fewer of the latter.

It’s much closer to the U of Chicago stereotype (serious academics, little fun) than it was 10+ years ago.

A lot of NU students have high school friends at U of Mich, & when they visit them in Ann Arbor they reportedly find a balanced mixture of brains & fun that they had hoped to find at NU.

Michigan alum with a current NU student and I agree with the above. For what it is worth, the NU admin is aware that there needs to be more social opportunities on campus since Evanston is not like Ann Arbor and doesn’t offer much in the way of the sports bars and student centric restaurants etc. They are currently building a really nice outdoor space on the back of Norris (student center) that will have a pub/restaurant for the students to go to as well as fire pits, etc all taking advantage of their amazing lakefront property. The whole campus is stunning and they clearly have a lot of money and are financially sound. My DC not a huge partier but they do have Greek life for those who want it. I think UChicago and NU both attract similar types of students nowadays so vibes are likely pretty similar but NU location can’t be beat!

when will this work be done?

from our private, the social/smart extroverted kids chose Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt and Michigan OVER Northwestern last cycle. The kids that ended up at Northwestern that we knew are introverted - haven't been to a football game this year with no plans to attend.

Cornell over NU in this analysis? All the others make sense

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Anonymous wrote:On safety at U Chicago: they now have a service that provides door-to-door van rides. It is probably a 5min wait -and is free and already has tens of thousands of rides tracked since the start of the school year. So this is hugely successful. Also they have installed cameras everywhere, following feedback last year from the parents. I am super pleased with Dean Hale and my kids feel safe on campus.

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Anonymous wrote:NU parent here. NU used to be a place with a lot of really smart/serious students but also quite a few “ordinary” smart/social/athletic kids mixed in. As the acceptance rate has dwindled down to single digits, it seems like there are more of the former & fewer of the latter.

It’s much closer to the U of Chicago stereotype (serious academics, little fun) than it was 10+ years ago.

A lot of NU students have high school friends at U of Mich, & when they visit them in Ann Arbor they reportedly find a balanced mixture of brains & fun that they had hoped to find at NU.

Michigan alum with a current NU student and I agree with the above. For what it is worth, the NU admin is aware that there needs to be more social opportunities on campus since Evanston is not like Ann Arbor and doesn’t offer much in the way of the sports bars and student centric restaurants etc. They are currently building a really nice outdoor space on the back of Norris (student center) that will have a pub/restaurant for the students to go to as well as fire pits, etc all taking advantage of their amazing lakefront property. The whole campus is stunning and they clearly have a lot of money and are financially sound. My DC not a huge partier but they do have Greek life for those who want it. I think UChicago and NU both attract similar types of students nowadays so vibes are likely pretty similar but NU location can’t be beat!

when will this work be done?

from our private, the social/smart extroverted kids chose Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt and Michigan OVER Northwestern last cycle. The kids that ended up at Northwestern that we knew are introverted - haven't been to a football game this year with no plans to attend.

Cornell over NU in this analysis? All the others make sense

Makes sense for Dyson.

Getting I-banking jobs from Northwestern is very competitive and not a dime a dozen like at Cornell

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Anonymous wrote:I like both schools very much, I think the student body is likely far more similar today with Northwestern becoming more “serious” and U of C less. During our tour at Northwestern the guide mentioned all the swag they give trying to koio entice kids to attend the football games.

You can't admit a student body that never attended a football game in high school (as they were too busy working at NIH or completing 8 internships) and then expect them to relax and be big sports fans in college. This isn't rocket science.

The student football tickets at NU all sould out in minutes, with lines of kids waiting outside for general admission.

Is it Notre Dame or Alabama intensity? Of course not.

But there are definitely plenty of kids at NU enjoying their college experience, including football.

Don’t NU undergraduates get free admission to all sports events???

Yes, but there's a lottery system of some sort for the football and basketball tickets. You get points for going to other types of games, which then increases your chances in the lottery. I don't fully understand it -- my kid is a freshman. But it apparently helps increase attendance at some of the sports that are often not as well attended, which is nice as a school spirit thing.

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Anonymous wrote:NU parent here. NU used to be a place with a lot of really smart/serious students but also quite a few “ordinary” smart/social/athletic kids mixed in. As the acceptance rate has dwindled down to single digits, it seems like there are more of the former & fewer of the latter.

It’s much closer to the U of Chicago stereotype (serious academics, little fun) than it was 10+ years ago.

A lot of NU students have high school friends at U of Mich, & when they visit them in Ann Arbor they reportedly find a balanced mixture of brains & fun that they had hoped to find at NU.

Michigan alum with a current NU student and I agree with the above. For what it is worth, the NU admin is aware that there needs to be more social opportunities on campus since Evanston is not like Ann Arbor and doesn’t offer much in the way of the sports bars and student centric restaurants etc. They are currently building a really nice outdoor space on the back of Norris (student center) that will have a pub/restaurant for the students to go to as well as fire pits, etc all taking advantage of their amazing lakefront property. The whole campus is stunning and they clearly have a lot of money and are financially sound. My DC not a huge partier but they do have Greek life for those who want it. I think UChicago and NU both attract similar types of students nowadays so vibes are likely pretty similar but NU location can’t be beat!

when will this work be done?

from our private, the social/smart extroverted kids chose Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt and Michigan OVER Northwestern last cycle. The kids that ended up at Northwestern that we knew are introverted - haven't been to a football game this year with no plans to attend.

Cornell over NU in this analysis? All the others make sense

Makes sense for Dyson.

Getting I-banking jobs from Northwestern is very competitive and not a dime a dozen like at Cornell

This was true maybe 15 years ago, but IB placements for Northwestern is quite stellar. Wouldn’t be surprised if it surpasses Cornell on a per capita basis.

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So what do the extroverted, social kids do on the weekend at Northwestern if they don’t want to go into Chicago? Are there bars near campus? Do they go to frat houses? House parties?

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Anonymous wrote:So what do the extroverted, social kids do on the weekend at Northwestern if they don’t want to go into Chicago? Are there bars near campus? Do they go to frat houses? House parties?

I have a freshman so not the best one to answer but the various clubs have houses and will have parties, the residence houses have social events, there are definitely bars in town, and people also do stuff like go to the school theater performances. My kid does not like big ragers like frat parties but those exist as well. I think there’s also just space for kids to hang out, or walk into town (which is right there) for insomnia cookies or burritos or whatever. It seems like what teens do pretty much anywhere. Probably less booze than when I went to college but then my college literally bought kegs to keep us amused on campus.

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Anonymous wrote:So what do the extroverted, social kids do on the weekend at Northwestern if they don’t want to go into Chicago? Are there bars near campus? Do they go to frat houses? House parties?

Fraternity parties, formals, bars, restaurants, smaller parties or get togethers. My very social kid is busy almost every weekend, except for when has too many tests coming up the following week.

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Anonymous wrote:So what do the extroverted, social kids do on the weekend at Northwestern if they don’t want to go into Chicago? Are there bars near campus? Do they go to frat houses? House parties?

Fraternity parties, formals, bars, restaurants, smaller parties or get togethers. My very social kid is busy almost every weekend, except for when has too many tests coming up the following week.

But the formals are for Greek life right?

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Anonymous wrote:NU parent here. NU used to be a place with a lot of really smart/serious students but also quite a few “ordinary” smart/social/athletic kids mixed in. As the acceptance rate has dwindled down to single digits, it seems like there are more of the former & fewer of the latter.

It’s much closer to the U of Chicago stereotype (serious academics, little fun) than it was 10+ years ago.

A lot of NU students have high school friends at U of Mich, & when they visit them in Ann Arbor they reportedly find a balanced mixture of brains & fun that they had hoped to find at NU.

Michigan alum with a current NU student and I agree with the above. For what it is worth, the NU admin is aware that there needs to be more social opportunities on campus since Evanston is not like Ann Arbor and doesn’t offer much in the way of the sports bars and student centric restaurants etc. They are currently building a really nice outdoor space on the back of Norris (student center) that will have a pub/restaurant for the students to go to as well as fire pits, etc all taking advantage of their amazing lakefront property. The whole campus is stunning and they clearly have a lot of money and are financially sound. My DC not a huge partier but they do have Greek life for those who want it. I think UChicago and NU both attract similar types of students nowadays so vibes are likely pretty similar but NU location can’t be beat!

when will this work be done?

from our private, the social/smart extroverted kids chose Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt and Michigan OVER Northwestern last cycle. The kids that ended up at Northwestern that we knew are introverted - haven't been to a football game this year with no plans to attend.

Cornell over NU in this analysis? All the others make sense

Makes sense for Dyson.

Getting I-banking jobs from Northwestern is very competitive and not a dime a dozen like at Cornell

This was true maybe 15 years ago, but IB placements for Northwestern is quite stellar. Wouldn’t be surprised if it surpasses Cornell on a per capita basis.

Doesn’t even come close.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-school-list

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Anonymous wrote:NU parent here. NU used to be a place with a lot of really smart/serious students but also quite a few “ordinary” smart/social/athletic kids mixed in. As the acceptance rate has dwindled down to single digits, it seems like there are more of the former & fewer of the latter.

It’s much closer to the U of Chicago stereotype (serious academics, little fun) than it was 10+ years ago.

A lot of NU students have high school friends at U of Mich, & when they visit them in Ann Arbor they reportedly find a balanced mixture of brains & fun that they had hoped to find at NU.

Michigan alum with a current NU student and I agree with the above. For what it is worth, the NU admin is aware that there needs to be more social opportunities on campus since Evanston is not like Ann Arbor and doesn’t offer much in the way of the sports bars and student centric restaurants etc. They are currently building a really nice outdoor space on the back of Norris (student center) that will have a pub/restaurant for the students to go to as well as fire pits, etc all taking advantage of their amazing lakefront property. The whole campus is stunning and they clearly have a lot of money and are financially sound. My DC not a huge partier but they do have Greek life for those who want it. I think UChicago and NU both attract similar types of students nowadays so vibes are likely pretty similar but NU location can’t be beat!

when will this work be done?

from our private, the social/smart extroverted kids chose Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt and Michigan OVER Northwestern last cycle. The kids that ended up at Northwestern that we knew are introverted - haven't been to a football game this year with no plans to attend.

Cornell over NU in this analysis? All the others make sense

Makes sense for Dyson.

Getting I-banking jobs from Northwestern is very competitive and not a dime a dozen like at Cornell

This was true maybe 15 years ago, but IB placements for Northwestern is quite stellar. Wouldn’t be surprised if it surpasses Cornell on a per capita basis.

Doesn’t even come close.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-school-list

Sorry. Here’s the rest:

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking/

https://poetsandquants.com/2022/02/11/the-top-25-feeder-schools-for-investment-banking/

NU good for LMM banking and consulting though.

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Anonymous wrote:So what do the extroverted, social kids do on the weekend at Northwestern if they don’t want to go into Chicago? Are there bars near campus? Do they go to frat houses? House parties?

Fraternity parties, formals, bars, restaurants, smaller parties or get togethers. My very social kid is busy almost every weekend, except for when has too many tests coming up the following week.

But the formals are for Greek life right?

There is supposed to be a school wide formal.

Kids also go to other games like volleyball and soccer, so they can get points for the football and basketball games.

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Anonymous wrote:NU parent here. NU used to be a place with a lot of really smart/serious students but also quite a few “ordinary” smart/social/athletic kids mixed in. As the acceptance rate has dwindled down to single digits, it seems like there are more of the former & fewer of the latter.

It’s much closer to the U of Chicago stereotype (serious academics, little fun) than it was 10+ years ago.

A lot of NU students have high school friends at U of Mich, & when they visit them in Ann Arbor they reportedly find a balanced mixture of brains & fun that they had hoped to find at NU.

Michigan alum with a current NU student and I agree with the above. For what it is worth, the NU admin is aware that there needs to be more social opportunities on campus since Evanston is not like Ann Arbor and doesn’t offer much in the way of the sports bars and student centric restaurants etc. They are currently building a really nice outdoor space on the back of Norris (student center) that will have a pub/restaurant for the students to go to as well as fire pits, etc all taking advantage of their amazing lakefront property. The whole campus is stunning and they clearly have a lot of money and are financially sound. My DC not a huge partier but they do have Greek life for those who want it. I think UChicago and NU both attract similar types of students nowadays so vibes are likely pretty similar but NU location can’t be beat!

when will this work be done?

from our private, the social/smart extroverted kids chose Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt and Michigan OVER Northwestern last cycle. The kids that ended up at Northwestern that we knew are introverted - haven't been to a football game this year with no plans to attend.

Cornell over NU in this analysis? All the others make sense

Makes sense for Dyson.

Getting I-banking jobs from Northwestern is very competitive and not a dime a dozen like at Cornell

This was true maybe 15 years ago, but IB placements for Northwestern is quite stellar. Wouldn’t be surprised if it surpasses Cornell on a per capita basis.

Doesn’t even come close.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-school-list

Northwestern placement is more buyside focused

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Anonymous wrote:NU parent here. NU used to be a place with a lot of really smart/serious students but also quite a few “ordinary” smart/social/athletic kids mixed in. As the acceptance rate has dwindled down to single digits, it seems like there are more of the former & fewer of the latter.

It’s much closer to the U of Chicago stereotype (serious academics, little fun) than it was 10+ years ago.

A lot of NU students have high school friends at U of Mich, & when they visit them in Ann Arbor they reportedly find a balanced mixture of brains & fun that they had hoped to find at NU.

Michigan alum with a current NU student and I agree with the above. For what it is worth, the NU admin is aware that there needs to be more social opportunities on campus since Evanston is not like Ann Arbor and doesn’t offer much in the way of the sports bars and student centric restaurants etc. They are currently building a really nice outdoor space on the back of Norris (student center) that will have a pub/restaurant for the students to go to as well as fire pits, etc all taking advantage of their amazing lakefront property. The whole campus is stunning and they clearly have a lot of money and are financially sound. My DC not a huge partier but they do have Greek life for those who want it. I think UChicago and NU both attract similar types of students nowadays so vibes are likely pretty similar but NU location can’t be beat!

when will this work be done?

from our private, the social/smart extroverted kids chose Duke, Cornell, Vanderbilt and Michigan OVER Northwestern last cycle. The kids that ended up at Northwestern that we knew are introverted - haven't been to a football game this year with no plans to attend.

Cornell over NU in this analysis? All the others make sense

Makes sense for Dyson.

Getting I-banking jobs from Northwestern is very competitive and not a dime a dozen like at Cornell

This was true maybe 15 years ago, but IB placements for Northwestern is quite stellar. Wouldn’t be surprised if it surpasses Cornell on a per capita basis.

Doesn’t even come close.

https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-school-list

Northwestern placement is more buyside focused

https://www.northwesternibc.com/placement.html

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Anonymous wrote:So what do the extroverted, social kids do on the weekend at Northwestern if they don’t want to go into Chicago? Are there bars near campus? Do they go to frat houses? House parties?

Fraternity parties, formals, bars, restaurants, smaller parties or get togethers. My very social kid is busy almost every weekend, except for when has too many tests coming up the following week.

But the formals are for Greek life right?

Many are, but not all. Some clubs have them as do different academic schools or majors.