Trump just lost Michigan

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Hello? Lower inflation now means diddly squat without wage increases. What is the delta?

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Anonymous wrote:Hello? Lower inflation now means diddly squat without wage increases. What is the delta?

Wages are way up under Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to look at this the other way, will people who were going to vote for Trump consider voting for Harris? For many it’s a resounding no. And the conversation ends there.

Just like there is nothing Harris could do at this point that would make you vote for Trump.

If they don't want to vote for Harris they don't have to vote for Harris. But I can't see how anyone can, in good conscience, vote for Trump, given how clearly cognitively unfit he is to serve. A third choice would be to sit it out. They can absolutely survive Harris and will do just fine under a Harris term (sorry but the MAGA doom and gloom over a Harris term is grossly overblown), but Trump is at this point at best incoherent and at best outright malignant and likely to throw us into yet another set of completely unwarranted and unnecessary constitutional crises and other chaos far worse than his first term.

I don’t believe the country can survive Harris. Her economic and border policies have been disastrous. I am worried about my children’s future if she wins.

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What economic policies have been "disastrous"?

How about the Inflation Reduction Act - great name for a bill that did nothing to reduce inflation. Even Biden admitted as much. 1.9% inflation in January 2021 that rose to over 9%.

It peaked at 9.1% then the Inflation Reduction Act was enacted and reduced it to 3% in a year. It’s lower now.

The inflation rate has been significantly reduced from it's recent peak level due to the Federal Reserve's actions taken to increase borrowing costs and effectively cool the economy. Joe Biden deserves very little blame for the recent rapid rise in the rate of inflation and zero credit for actions taken to reduce it. Facts.

I don't understand why this fact isn't more widely understood.

Because the 90% of us that can't escape their political bubbles long enough to find real truths prefer not to accept truths that don't fit the narratives of their chosen bubble.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello? Lower inflation now means diddly squat without wage increases. What is the delta?

Wages are way up under Biden.

So are they comparable to inflation over the past several years? Are wages keeping up for everyone?

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Anonymous wrote:Arabs/Muslims along with 3rd parties will hand the state to Trump.

Muslims have basically nothing in common with the D party, no common beliefs or values. The only thing that the D party can offer is some kind of broad validation of their minority status, but no validation of their actual views or goals. If you look at Pew polling of Muslims, support for Ds have been declining since 2014. The only thing the left has going for it is the race hustle, but current events call the actual ROI for Muslims of that approach into question. Most people don't see themselves as being "minority" first. They see their identity as being interwoven with their beliefs and culture, and the D party isn't exactly traditional or religious.

Weird take. Muslims are not monolithic. Some are very traditional, like old school Italian or Polish Catholics. But even they came to America recently or generations ago because it is safe and there is opportunity. And many Muslims are not traditional at all.

Not a weird take at all. Many Muslims, like many blacks and hispanics are leaving the Democratic party in droves because they do not support such things as tax-payer funded “gender affirming care” surgeries that Kamala supports. It is a bridge way too far and many in these groups have values more aligned with conservative views. The race hustle only takes you so far.

You should see how many women are fleeing the GOP as they’re realizing they’ll happily kill women. There are going to be so many secret Harris voters you’re going to be crying rigged election into your cornflakes.

More likely there are secret Trump voters. That’s what the last two elections he was involved in showed. People who don’t pay attention to politics but are sick of high prices are going to break for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello? Lower inflation now means diddly squat without wage increases. What is the delta?

Wages are way up under Biden.

So are they comparable to inflation over the past several years? Are wages keeping up for everyone?

They have increased most rapidly for the bottom 40%. You know, working people.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello? Lower inflation now means diddly squat without wage increases. What is the delta?

Wages are way up under Biden.

So are they comparable to inflation over the past several years? Are wages keeping up for everyone?

This is about the best I found to answer my question. Not everyone felt like things improved.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/inflation-economy-housing-prices-recession-vibes/a-tale-of-2-economies-wages-are-going-up-why-do-we-feel-like-we-cant-afford-anything/3536747/?amp=1

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Anonymous wrote:Hello? Lower inflation now means diddly squat without wage increases. What is the delta?

Wages are way up under Biden.

So are they comparable to inflation over the past several years? Are wages keeping up for everyone?

This is about the best I found to answer my question. Not everyone felt like things improved.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/inflation-economy-housing-prices-recession-vibes/a-tale-of-2-economies-wages-are-going-up-why-do-we-feel-like-we-cant-afford-anything/3536747/?amp=1

Oops. Here is the more recent one:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna158569

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Anonymous wrote:Hello? Lower inflation now means diddly squat without wage increases. What is the delta?

Wages are way up under Biden.

So are they comparable to inflation over the past several years? Are wages keeping up for everyone?

"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by 4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth since January 2023"
2022 was BAD.

"Wages outpace inflation
The Consumer Price Index, a measurement of the change in price of goods and services, has increased 20.8% since the beginning of the pandemic, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics. During that same period of time, average hourly earnings increased 22.3%.

"We had this period where inflation rose faster than wages, and what we've how had in the last year or so is we've seen wages growing faster than inflation," said Gerald Cohen, a professor and chief economist at the Frank H. Kenan Institute of Private Enterprise at the University of North Carolina."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/07/16/inflation-vs-wages-rnc-2024/74417898007/

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So not perfect...but on the right track. Now let's add dumbass tariffs and see which way that leads...

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The CPI does not cover the cost of buying a home, only rent, and the cost of buying a home has out-paced wages in many places.

Also, when people cite the rise of wages vs inflation, they're not thinking about the actual concerns of working parents, including things like the ability to save for retirement and college.

I'm a Harris voter who gets why she is losing so many working class people. It's not that Trump is so much better, it's that the Dems keep saying they're doing so much based upon numbers that are meaningless in the day-to-day lives of so many Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:The CPI does not cover the cost of buying a home, only rent, and the cost of buying a home has out-paced wages in many places.

Also, when people cite the rise of wages vs inflation, they're not thinking about the actual concerns of working parents, including things like the ability to save for retirement and college.

I'm a Harris voter who gets why she is losing so many working class people. It's not that Trump is so much better, it's that the Dems keep saying they're doing so much based upon numbers that are meaningless in the day-to-day lives of so many Americans.

Don't you think most Americans have learned the hard way that people in their elderly years don't make great leaders of very powerful countries and that adequate leadership is more important than any other quality in a POTUS? Harris is our only chance at the adequate leadership we've been missing since Obama left office.

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Anonymous wrote:Arabs/Muslims along with 3rd parties will hand the state to Trump.

Muslims have basically nothing in common with the D party, no common beliefs or values. The only thing that the D party can offer is some kind of broad validation of their minority status, but no validation of their actual views or goals. If you look at Pew polling of Muslims, support for Ds have been declining since 2014. The only thing the left has going for it is the race hustle, but current events call the actual ROI for Muslims of that approach into question. Most people don't see themselves as being "minority" first. They see their identity as being interwoven with their beliefs and culture, and the D party isn't exactly traditional or religious.

Weird take. Muslims are not monolithic. Some are very traditional, like old school Italian or Polish Catholics. But even they came to America recently or generations ago because it is safe and there is opportunity. And many Muslims are not traditional at all.

Not a weird take at all. Many Muslims, like many blacks and hispanics are leaving the Democratic party in droves because they do not support such things as tax-payer funded “gender affirming care” surgeries that Kamala supports. It is a bridge way too far and many in these groups have values more aligned with conservative views. The race hustle only takes you so far.

You should see how many women are fleeing the GOP as they’re realizing they’ll happily kill women. There are going to be so many secret Harris voters you’re going to be crying rigged election into your cornflakes.

NP While I believe you are right, it is odd that you refer to cornflakes which are made in red part of Michigan.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to look at this the other way, will people who were going to vote for Trump consider voting for Harris? For many it’s a resounding no. And the conversation ends there.

Just like there is nothing Harris could do at this point that would make you vote for Trump.

If they don't want to vote for Harris they don't have to vote for Harris. But I can't see how anyone can, in good conscience, vote for Trump, given how clearly cognitively unfit he is to serve. A third choice would be to sit it out. They can absolutely survive Harris and will do just fine under a Harris term (sorry but the MAGA doom and gloom over a Harris term is grossly overblown), but Trump is at this point at best incoherent and at best outright malignant and likely to throw us into yet another set of completely unwarranted and unnecessary constitutional crises and other chaos far worse than his first term.

I don’t believe the country can survive Harris. Her economic and border policies have been disastrous. I am worried about my children’s future if she wins.

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What economic policies have been "disastrous"?

How about the Inflation Reduction Act - great name for a bill that did nothing to reduce inflation. Even Biden admitted as much. 1.9% inflation in January 2021 that rose to over 9%.

It peaked at 9.1% then the Inflation Reduction Act was enacted and reduced it to 3% in a year. It’s lower now.

The inflation rate has been significantly reduced from it's recent peak level due to the Federal Reserve's actions taken to increase borrowing costs and effectively cool the economy. Joe Biden deserves very little blame for the recent rapid rise in the rate of inflation and zero credit for actions taken to reduce it. Facts.

I don't understand why this fact isn't more widely understood.

Because the 90% of us that can't escape their political bubbles long enough to find real truths prefer not to accept truths that don't fit the narratives of their chosen bubble.

Oh thank god you showed up to remind us all BoThSiDeS.

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Anonymous wrote:You have to look at this the other way, will people who were going to vote for Trump consider voting for Harris? For many it’s a resounding no. And the conversation ends there.

Just like there is nothing Harris could do at this point that would make you vote for Trump.

If they don't want to vote for Harris they don't have to vote for Harris. But I can't see how anyone can, in good conscience, vote for Trump, given how clearly cognitively unfit he is to serve. A third choice would be to sit it out. They can absolutely survive Harris and will do just fine under a Harris term (sorry but the MAGA doom and gloom over a Harris term is grossly overblown), but Trump is at this point at best incoherent and at best outright malignant and likely to throw us into yet another set of completely unwarranted and unnecessary constitutional crises and other chaos far worse than his first term.

I don’t believe the country can survive Harris. Her economic and border policies have been disastrous. I am worried about my children’s future if she wins.

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What economic policies have been "disastrous"?

DP. Of Trump’s or Biden/Harris? Because we could make a long list of Trump’s policies and suggested policies that would qualify as disastrous.