UMD in-state

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

Freshman Connect kids are now reported in all the UMD admissions stats. See attached.
https://irpa.umd.edu/CampusCounts/Admissions/apps_ug.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

I don't see any reason why you daughter won't get in. You are giving UMD way more credit that it is due. At the end of the day, it's a mediocre state school. I get the lack of high quality choice in MD when it comes to publics and some folks need to be able to pay in-state but.. your daughter, given her great profile, will be fine wherever she goes. A lot of OOS schools would have given her good financial aid to make the cost close to what you'd have paid in-state MD.

My DS (Fairfax county public; with way lower stats that your DD) has been admitted to pretty much all the second-tier schools in the UMD range (Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, etc.) and decent merit money from a few. Your daughter would hit it out of the park at all these places with admissions and merit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

I don't see any reason why you daughter won't get in. You are giving UMD way more credit that it is due. At the end of the day, it's a mediocre state school. I get the lack of high quality choice in MD when it comes to publics and some folks need to be able to pay in-state but.. your daughter, given her great profile, will be fine wherever she goes. A lot of OOS schools would have given her good financial aid to make the cost close to what you'd have paid in-state MD.

My DS (Fairfax county public; with way lower stats that your DD) has been admitted to pretty much all the second-tier schools in the UMD range (Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, etc.) and decent merit money from a few. Your daughter would hit it out of the park at all these places with admissions and merit.

It's probably because her DD may want CS or Engineering. Those are "different table stakes" when it comes to stats, even for UMD.

[Anonymous]

It’s getting to be impossible to be admitted since the Big Ten affiliation. UMD is leaving the region in the dust especially in STEM.

[Anonymous]

UMD checks a lot of boxes, particularly for frugal DMV parents who have helicoptery tendencies. Heard admissions is really focused on test scores although they push the test optional line. Hard to get in from Moco but not quite Northern-Virginia-to-UVA difficult - yet. Certainly not your parents UMD. They wouldn’t be accepted today. Full stop. They are on tear to climb into top public universities list - akin to northeastern of a generation ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

According to the data, 259 applied last year from Churchill and 143 were admitted. I don’t see that as only admitting the “high of the high students.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

Who has told you that? Sounds like an urban legend. Some parents whose kids didn’t get in say this, because they thought DC kid should have gotten in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

Who told you that? A UMD AO? DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

I don't see any reason why you daughter won't get in. You are giving UMD way more credit that it is due. At the end of the day, it's a mediocre state school. I get the lack of high quality choice in MD when it comes to publics and some folks need to be able to pay in-state but.. your daughter, given her great profile, will be fine wherever she goes. A lot of OOS schools would have given her good financial aid to make the cost close to what you'd have paid in-state MD.

My DS (Fairfax county public; with way lower stats that your DD) has been admitted to pretty much all the second-tier schools in the UMD range (Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, etc.) and decent merit money from a few. Your daughter would hit it out of the park at all these places with admissions and merit.

Cute. How did you come to this conclusion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

I don't see any reason why you daughter won't get in. You are giving UMD way more credit that it is due. At the end of the day, it's a mediocre state school. I get the lack of high quality choice in MD when it comes to publics and some folks need to be able to pay in-state but.. your daughter, given her great profile, will be fine wherever she goes. A lot of OOS schools would have given her good financial aid to make the cost close to what you'd have paid in-state MD.

My DS (Fairfax county public; with way lower stats that your DD) has been admitted to pretty much all the second-tier schools in the UMD range (Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, etc.) and decent merit money from a few. Your daughter would hit it out of the park at all these places with admissions and merit.

Cute. How did you come to this conclusion?

The same way I figured the sky is blue.

[Anonymous]

I’m the PP- I’ve been told it numerous times by parents of students from previous graduating classes who had kids with similar stats. Who knows, maybe she will get lucky, but I’ve certainly been warned to have other plans.

As for the PP, she has been admitted to great schools including Ohio State, Clemson, and Penn State, but it is the money that makes all the difference. She should qualify for some Pell money and with additional state aid, the difference in cost is a lot even after merit. I just wish MD had another big school option. She is in Towson but quite adamant that she has no interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

I don't see any reason why you daughter won't get in. You are giving UMD way more credit that it is due. At the end of the day, it's a mediocre state school. I get the lack of high quality choice in MD when it comes to publics and some folks need to be able to pay in-state but.. your daughter, given her great profile, will be fine wherever she goes. A lot of OOS schools would have given her good financial aid to make the cost close to what you'd have paid in-state MD.

My DS (Fairfax county public; with way lower stats that your DD) has been admitted to pretty much all the second-tier schools in the UMD range (Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, etc.) and decent merit money from a few. Your daughter would hit it out of the park at all these places with admissions and merit.

Cute. How did you come to this conclusion?

The same way I figured the sky is blue.

The only state schools within 500 miles of the DCUM crowd that could objectively be called stronger academically than UMD are UVA, UNC, and UMich. Particularly if we are talking STEM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

I don't see any reason why you daughter won't get in. You are giving UMD way more credit that it is due. At the end of the day, it's a mediocre state school. I get the lack of high quality choice in MD when it comes to publics and some folks need to be able to pay in-state but.. your daughter, given her great profile, will be fine wherever she goes. A lot of OOS schools would have given her good financial aid to make the cost close to what you'd have paid in-state MD.

My DS (Fairfax county public; with way lower stats that your DD) has been admitted to pretty much all the second-tier schools in the UMD range (Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, etc.) and decent merit money from a few. Your daughter would hit it out of the park at all these places with admissions and merit.

Pitt and UMD both give little merit.

No. A 3.9 student will be unlikely to get UMD merit unless they are coming from a small county like Cecil or Caroline or have another hook like valedictorian or top 10 in their class.

Remember UMD has 10,000 people in their class, and around 1,000 of them got into T20 colleges and chose UMD.

Meanwhile T20 only has their 1,000 students per year to keep numbers slow and rejections high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD admits a lot of lower stats kids second semester.
That way the lower stats aren't computed in their averages. The kids attend the first semester, but take evening classes. (I can't remember what this program is called.)

DD had very high stats and got accepted to CS at UMD, but not honors, which disappointed her. She attends OOS where she got a full ride.

Lots of her classmates are at UMD, with mixed feelings about it. The worst complaint I hear from parents is about housing, which is very limited at UMD, and the huge classes are a problem in the first couple years.

Or maybe they are admitting for Spring to give more kids a chance. IMO public schools are playing less games than private colleges.

State schools play fewer games than private about full pay students, but certainly aren’t straight forward. I have been told that my 3.91/4.51, 7 AP child has zero chance of getting into UMD because she is coming from Churchill and they only accept the high of the high students with perfect scores, yet her same stats coming from almost any other high school would at least give her a real good chance. It’s really frustrating as we are one of the struggling families who can’t afford to go out of state or pay for tutors or college counseling so she is being compared to kids with many greater advantages just because of where we are zoned.

Who told you that? A UMD AO? DCUM?

DP

The AOs say UMD is not “the University of Montgomery County.”

They accept students from ALL counties. It’s easier to get accepted from counties with fewer admits.