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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

It would take my kids 90 minutes to get to school that this “brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools”. It was foolish to make MA there and. it’s not a viable option for the vast majority of inbounds families. It’s a slap in the face. We had to leave DC.

This is overly dramatic and quite frankly ridiculous. The transportation situation isn’t perfect, but it is hardly 90 minutes to get to school for any inbound family. We are an Eaton family and it is most inconvenient for us, but it is not that inconvenient at all.

Also if you left DC, why are you still posting in this forum?

Serious - where is this family located? Like come on.

+1 like having to take the bus and changing buses will definitely get you there.

And who are you the right to tell that family not to post on DC site. They have every right to and appreciate their experience of why they had to move out of the city.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

And how many OOB kids will they take from the lottery then? Does JR currently admit any off the lottery?

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

JR had 1855 kids in 2024-25. Even with all of Hardy removed and even if Deal continues to send fewer kids per year (and I don’t think you can guarantee this will happen, particularly if the economy tanks and more people can’t swing private school), how on earth can you possibly foresee 555-855 fewer kids at JR? Your math isn’t mathing.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

JR had 1855 kids in 2024-25. Even with all of Hardy removed and even if Deal continues to send fewer kids per year (and I don’t think you can guarantee this will happen, particularly if the economy tanks and more people can’t swing private school), how on earth can you possibly foresee 555-855 fewer kids at JR? Your math isn’t mathing.

The Hardy feed wasn’t eliminated for 24-25. PP’s math is definitely mathing. You need to check yourself

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

JR had 1855 kids in 2024-25. Even with all of Hardy removed and even if Deal continues to send fewer kids per year (and I don’t think you can guarantee this will happen, particularly if the economy tanks and more people can’t swing private school), how on earth can you possibly foresee 555-855 fewer kids at JR? Your math isn’t mathing.

This was the first year Hardy students didn't have the option of JR.

SY20-21: 97 students from Hardy to JR (seniors in SY24-25)
SY21-22: 94 students from Hardy to JR (juniors in SY24-25)
SY22-23: 55 students from Hardy to JR (sophomores in SY24-25)
SY23-24: 78 students from Hardy to JR (freshmen in SY24-25)

If all of the Hardy students who entered JR from SY21-22 through SY24-25 stayed, that's 324 JR students who fed in from Hardy at JR in SY24-25. Still under the 1,600 capacity without them.

JR student body will also continue to include ~25-50 per year from Oyster-Adams and a contingent of IB students who attended non-feeder schools for MS. It's harder to say how many of those students to expect in the future, since the historical numbers included students zoned for Hardy.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

JR had 1855 kids in 2024-25. Even with all of Hardy removed and even if Deal continues to send fewer kids per year (and I don’t think you can guarantee this will happen, particularly if the economy tanks and more people can’t swing private school), how on earth can you possibly foresee 555-855 fewer kids at JR? Your math isn’t mathing.

The Hardy feed wasn’t eliminated for 24-25. PP’s math is definitely mathing. You need to check yourself

PP’s clumsy math requires the belief that Deal will continue to send fewer and fewer kids to JR. I don’t think anyone can say that will happen. And in 2024-25, there were approximately 324 kids who went to Hardy at JR. Eliminating those kids still will not get JR down to 1300, much less 1000 (which is a truly laughable estimate).

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

JR had 1855 kids in 2024-25. Even with all of Hardy removed and even if Deal continues to send fewer kids per year (and I don’t think you can guarantee this will happen, particularly if the economy tanks and more people can’t swing private school), how on earth can you possibly foresee 555-855 fewer kids at JR? Your math isn’t mathing.

The Hardy feed wasn’t eliminated for 24-25. PP’s math is definitely mathing. You need to check yourself

PP’s clumsy math requires the belief that Deal will continue to send fewer and fewer kids to JR. I don’t think anyone can say that will happen. And in 2024-25, there were approximately 324 kids who went to Hardy at JR. Eliminating those kids still will not get JR down to 1300, much less 1000 (which is a truly laughable estimate).

1855 - 324 = 1531

1531 < 1600

Some additional number of current JR students are IB students who didn't attend Hardy but live in the Hardy boundary. It's not possible to identify those students with the publicly available data, but it definitely reduces that number further.

Ward 3 births have been steadily declining since 2010, JR neighborhoods are forecasted to have the lowest rate of growth (in some cases, even decline) of HS-aged students in DC, Deal enrollment has been effectively flat for the last 6 years while matriculation to JR has declined.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

JR had 1855 kids in 2024-25. Even with all of Hardy removed and even if Deal continues to send fewer kids per year (and I don’t think you can guarantee this will happen, particularly if the economy tanks and more people can’t swing private school), how on earth can you possibly foresee 555-855 fewer kids at JR? Your math isn’t mathing.

The Hardy feed wasn’t eliminated for 24-25. PP’s math is definitely mathing. You need to check yourself

PP’s clumsy math requires the belief that Deal will continue to send fewer and fewer kids to JR. I don’t think anyone can say that will happen. And in 2024-25, there were approximately 324 kids who went to Hardy at JR. Eliminating those kids still will not get JR down to 1300, much less 1000 (which is a truly laughable estimate).

1855 - 324 = 1531

1531 < 1600

Some additional number of current JR students are IB students who didn't attend Hardy but live in the Hardy boundary. It's not possible to identify those students with the publicly available data, but it definitely reduces that number further.

Ward 3 births have been steadily declining since 2010, JR neighborhoods are forecasted to have the lowest rate of growth (in some cases, even decline) of HS-aged students in DC, Deal enrollment has been effectively flat for the last 6 years while matriculation to JR has declined.

Makes me wonder if they'll offer some places in the lottery, if their numbers fall too low.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

JR overcrowding is a Bowser problem because she needs rich EOTP donors in ward 4 to stay on her side. Once she’s gone, it’s going to be interesting. The political games around JR’s boundaries and the corruption around who gets to go for OOB students is a product of the DC machine, which may or may not get dismantled by the next mayor.

Yes, the 20-25 kids that go to Deal from Shepherd (a feeder that's been in place for almost 25 years) is really the issue here. Mind you, those kids would have to be re-routed to an even more overcrowded Wells to get rid of those black and brown kids you want kicked out of feeder.

As many PPs have pointed out. The issue at JR is clearly being addressed. Stop trying to make the school whiter for your liking.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

JR had 1855 kids in 2024-25. Even with all of Hardy removed and even if Deal continues to send fewer kids per year (and I don’t think you can guarantee this will happen, particularly if the economy tanks and more people can’t swing private school), how on earth can you possibly foresee 555-855 fewer kids at JR? Your math isn’t mathing.

The Hardy feed wasn’t eliminated for 24-25. PP’s math is definitely mathing. You need to check yourself

PP’s clumsy math requires the belief that Deal will continue to send fewer and fewer kids to JR. I don’t think anyone can say that will happen. And in 2024-25, there were approximately 324 kids who went to Hardy at JR. Eliminating those kids still will not get JR down to 1300, much less 1000 (which is a truly laughable estimate).

1855 - 324 = 1531

1531 < 1600

Some additional number of current JR students are IB students who didn't attend Hardy but live in the Hardy boundary. It's not possible to identify those students with the publicly available data, but it definitely reduces that number further.

Ward 3 births have been steadily declining since 2010, JR neighborhoods are forecasted to have the lowest rate of growth (in some cases, even decline) of HS-aged students in DC, Deal enrollment has been effectively flat for the last 6 years while matriculation to JR has declined.

Ok now do the math that shows JR getting down to 1000 students, as some people on this thread are guaranteeing.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS already DID deal with it by building out a whole new high school for one of the JR feeders.

Once JR is fully feeding only from Deal (SY28-29), you'll have around 250-320 students per grade (based on last 5 years of data on # of students who move on from Deal to JR). So 1,000 - 1,300 in a facility with capacity for 1,600.

There's no need to exclude OOB students with feeder rights.

Well this does not help current families at all so…..

And basically, Hardy families got screwed over having to go to MA which is a nightmare to get to and limited in academic, EC, and sports offerings.

If they did not do OOB feeder rights, JR could accommodate all IB ward 3 families.

But we know that the priority of DCPS was not ward 3 families. It is to get more OOB families in ward 3 schools.

It does help current families. This year the freshman class is smaller. Next year the freshman and sophomore class will be smaller. Etc.

Proposing to immediately change feeder rights across DCPS to fix a short-term problem at a single school is ridiculous. JR overcrowding is a long-standing problem that current families should have been aware of long before their students matriculated.

Forgot to add that Hardy families have had years of notice and grandfathering before students lost feeder rights to JR. But yes, sure, let's tell OOB families with students currently at JR that they need to find a new HS.

No one is saying to kick the OOB students out of JR. What people are saying is to end feeder rights at over crowded schools once the kids reach the terminal grade at their current school.

Yes this has been a long standing issue that families have raised again and again and that the solution would be to end feeder school rights. But of course OSSE and DCPS could care less and do nothing.

Families are not to blame. It is the messed up system and DCPS. No wonder so many families who have options are leaving DCPS altogether. BTW the new science and ELA curriculum isn’t helping either with the race to the bottom.

I don't think it's that DCPS could care less, it's that they don't think JR being overcrowded is more of a problem than cutting out OOB students from the school would be.

They literally already addressed the problem at JR by creating a brand new high school for one of the two feeder middle schools. I really don't understand what you are all going on about.

Opening MacArthur was a band-aid on the JR overcrowding problem. It’s not going to permanently solve the issue. If you’re so ignorant of this fact you probably should be sitting this conversation out.

SY19-20: 316 students from Deal to JR
SY20-21: 311 students from Deal to JR
SY21-22: 289 students from Deal to JR
SY22-23: 259 students from Deal to JR
SY23-24: 257 students from Deal to JR

So once Deal is the only feeder there will be around 1,000 - 1,300 students in a facility with capacity for 1,600. And probably on the lower end of that estimate based on more recent trends.

JR had 1855 kids in 2024-25. Even with all of Hardy removed and even if Deal continues to send fewer kids per year (and I don’t think you can guarantee this will happen, particularly if the economy tanks and more people can’t swing private school), how on earth can you possibly foresee 555-855 fewer kids at JR? Your math isn’t mathing.

The Hardy feed wasn’t eliminated for 24-25. PP’s math is definitely mathing. You need to check yourself

PP’s clumsy math requires the belief that Deal will continue to send fewer and fewer kids to JR. I don’t think anyone can say that will happen. And in 2024-25, there were approximately 324 kids who went to Hardy at JR. Eliminating those kids still will not get JR down to 1300, much less 1000 (which is a truly laughable estimate).

1855 - 324 = 1531

1531 < 1600

Some additional number of current JR students are IB students who didn't attend Hardy but live in the Hardy boundary. It's not possible to identify those students with the publicly available data, but it definitely reduces that number further.

Ward 3 births have been steadily declining since 2010, JR neighborhoods are forecasted to have the lowest rate of growth (in some cases, even decline) of HS-aged students in DC, Deal enrollment has been effectively flat for the last 6 years while matriculation to JR has declined.

Ok now do the math that shows JR getting down to 1000 students, as some people on this thread are guaranteeing.

PP said it would likely drop to between 1000-1300. No one guaranteed 1000.

What is your problem anyway? Seems a weird thing to be angry about.

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Johnson has kids from Maryland just for football. Some of them even being held back a year just for fb.