Is marriage a bad deal for a rich man?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is great. I always want to caution women against marrying a man who isn't head over heels for them and willing to work for a good marriage because eventually those men will just become dead weight. Looks like a lot of men like that are just taking themselves out of the running anyway!

Actually the men here just want to eliminate useless & exploitive lazy women marrying for $$.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble but those college-educated women who are divorcing because they aren’t happy aren’t “useless exploitative lazy women marrying for money.” They are typically unhappy because they have asked their husbands a million times, for years, in a hundred different ways for them to do more chores and more romance and affection. You’re not going to avoid divorce just by avoiding gold diggers.

Understood and not saying many men are not to blame for relationship failures or divorce.
I'm just commenting that most men who have $$ are mitigating a significant risk that they see per the subject. Risk vs.reward is most times is out of balance.

So we agree. It's great news for everyone that these men are taking themselves out of the dating pool (and hopefully the gene pool too).

[Anonymous]

So...this is yet another instance of the happy couples happily spending time together rather than here on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is great. I always want to caution women against marrying a man who isn't head over heels for them and willing to work for a good marriage because eventually those men will just become dead weight. Looks like a lot of men like that are just taking themselves out of the running anyway!

Actually the men here just want to eliminate useless & exploitive lazy women marrying for $$.

Well, sorry to burst your bubble but those college-educated women who are divorcing because they aren’t happy aren’t “useless exploitative lazy women marrying for money.” They are typically unhappy because they have asked their husbands a million times, for years, in a hundred different ways for them to do more chores and more romance and affection. You’re not going to avoid divorce just by avoiding gold diggers.

Understood and not saying many men are not to blame for relationship failures or divorce.
I'm just commenting that most men who have $$ are mitigating a significant risk that they see per the subject. Risk vs.reward is most times is out of balance.

So we agree. It's great news for everyone that these men are taking themselves out of the dating pool (and hopefully the gene pool too).

They still find women date and to have children with, they just don't marry you, oops I mean them.

[Anonymous]

Like Elon Musk? What could go wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely it is.

Whenever I hear people lost benefits on why people should get married I point to how they’re outweighed by the HUGE risk of divorce. All of those "benefits" are a moot point as once you're divorced you will end up paying CS and in some cases alimony.

In a lot of cases the government makes money off of your CS so it encourages them to hit you with the highest possible amount as possible. Top that off by the fact 80% of divorces are initiated by women (90% of college educated) there is too much risk. If you're a man who has built his empire and worked hard, it's put at risk as soon as you marry.

I've seen men lose their businesses, livelihoods and in some cases built a house for their wife, (who cheated on him) and he lost it. I have friends that have lived out of a box eating Ramen for years because of being taken to the cleaners. You're 3-4 times more likely to commit suicide as a man, it jumps up to 9 times if you're a divorced man. You lose access to you home, your kids and get your income stolen from you. There is no "traditional" women anymore. At the end of the day the state encourages them to divorce and these women are just using the tools put in front of them to take advantage of it. Only 11 or 12 states have 50/50 by default for custody. It should be 50


At the end of the day - as a man - no one will help you, no one cares about you or will have any empathy for you. You have to look out for yourself and the best way to do that is to take minimal risks that will destroy your livelihood. Society has shown it has utter disdain for men; best thing you can do for yourselves is to not play a game where the odds are not in your favor. Not only are they stacked against you, you have people actively looking to make you lose everything. I've had friends where their ex-wives divorce lawyers put restraining orders and make false claims of abuse to just to ensure they win. And I say had, because at least one of them ended his life based on these allegations and think is ex-wife gives a shit the actions she pulled led to him unaliving himself? Nope, she gets his life insurance and will be banging a new guy in a month.

Get a prenup! Get an alimony waiver and keep all assets separate…plenty of wealthy men do it.
Most people have no wealth. If you have a high net worth and don’t look like Atilla the Hun, you have your choice of mates. And you can dictate the terms—prenup.

[Anonymous]

What a jaded view of the world. I know plenty of very happily married breadwinner/traditional wife marriages. I’m in one and so are many of my friends. I’m sad that you don’t see how this can be mutually beneficial. And, frankly, I’m much better off financially if I stay married than if I divorce…

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Anonymous wrote:The divorce rate is quite low for couples who are both college-educated and married after age 25. Citing to risk of divorce based on the general population is not relevant to the typical DCUM couple.

The marriage rate for that demographic is low too, this less divorces.

But as a man, your college educated wife is 90% likely to initiate the divorce.

The risk vs reward isn’t favorable for men, especially wealthier men. Women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment. Most women are statistically chasing after the top 10% of men. Those men can and will choose who they commit to. Unless you’re a top tier woman and a genuine 8-10 (lets be hue at most women are NOT) then you’re likely to be part of the 54% of women who will be single and childless forget by 2030

Hold on. You actually think 90% of college educated married women end up initiating divorce? Explain yourself.

Also, no, women do not chase 10% of men. This has been debunked many times. Women are very realistic about who they date.

It’s the date….look for yourself.

Half of marriages fail, if she’s college educated 90% of the time she initiates the divorce. Super easy to find

Yea, the stats show women chase the top 10%

https://amj.kma.re.kr/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1597&context=journal

You can argue “that’s just online”; But ONLINE is how Gen Z and Millennials date.

A whopping 53% of people under 30 have used a dating site or app, compared to only 37% of the 30–49 age group, a measly 20% for 50–64-year-olds.

So the lower quality 53% use dating apps....

I was thinking the question is more for the top 5% or so, they're not on dating apps at any age. Their social circle provides plenty of opportunity for both men and women. My kids don't use them and we've discussed many times how important it is to marry you financial, academic, spiritual, and social equal... both my son and daughter get the same advice here. Their spouses will help raise my grandchildren, so they know this has always been a very important family value.

[Anonymous]

If you are a rich guy, just have lots of sex and have a kid with your girlfriend. Don't get married. If you do, get a prenup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most rich men want the social standing that a high quality wife brings. This feels like a question only a man from a lower class/lower middle class background would ask.

Lol, yeah, if only poor, low-status Leonardo DiCaprio would marry one woman instead of banging new 21-year-olds all the time, then he would really have it made.

Women are so delusional. This reminds of all the posts saying high-status men really, really care about having a wife with a Master's degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rich or wealthy?

Wealthy will have a prenup.

Rich needs someone to raise the kids.

If no kids desired, sure, don’t get married.

In the ghetto people have kids without marriage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most rich men want the social standing that a high quality wife brings. This feels like a question only a man from a lower class/lower middle class background would ask.

Lol, yeah, if only poor, low-status Leonardo DiCaprio would marry one woman instead of banging new 21-year-olds all the time, then he would really have it made.

Women are so delusional. This reminds of all the posts saying high-status men really, really care about having a wife with a Master's degree.

I think you are same poster writing stuff again and again, you are predictable and utterly boring. Try something new. Also, Leo DiCaprio is not a shining example of successful personal life.

If your only goal is to Sc** a new 21 yr old every few weeks, then you are posting in the wrong forum. Read the forum title please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The math just doesn’t seem to work. Why not just have kids with your girlfriend and never get married?

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Maybe because my priorities and values guided me toward marriage.

Never really valued money, when I was making it I was just having fun. At a certain point everything else is gravy.

[Anonymous]

I pay top dollar for a freaking cleaning lady. Do you know how long it took to find such a dependable, quality person? You have to be an idiot to think you are going to find a quality companion without marriage. Plus it must be exhausting to spend decade after decade sifting through dates. What a lonely existence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Most rich men want the social standing that a high quality wife brings. This feels like a question only a man from a lower class/lower middle class background would ask.

Lol, yeah, if only poor, low-status Leonardo DiCaprio would marry one woman instead of banging new 21-year-olds all the time, then he would really have it made.

Women are so delusional. This reminds of all the posts saying high-status men really, really care about having a wife with a Master's degree.

Leo DiCaprio is a damaged child actor, he is not marriage material. For every Leo there are 100 good looking, wealthy celelbrity males that grew up and married.

[Anonymous]

Wait, why is the OP about rich men only? Seems to me marriage would be even a worse deal for rich women, under OP’s hypothesis.