Russia - civil war has broken out

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https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

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“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
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Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”




Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


Which town did they capture?


According even to non-Ukrainian sources like Igor "Strelkov" Girkin, the Russian who led Putin's covert invasion of Donbass, he stated on Telegram that there are several villages that were captured by the anti-Kremlin Russians.

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https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

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“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”




Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


Which town did they capture?


According even to non-Ukrainian sources like Igor "Strelkov" Girkin, the Russian who led Putin's covert invasion of Donbass, he stated on Telegram that there are several villages that were captured by the anti-Kremlin Russians.



Adorable, you are.
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https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

—————
“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”




Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


Which town did they capture?


According even to non-Ukrainian sources like Igor "Strelkov" Girkin, the Russian who led Putin's covert invasion of Donbass, he stated on Telegram that there are several villages that were captured by the anti-Kremlin Russians.



Strelkov is a Russian nationalist, a hero in Russia, and has been close to Putin.

He has also criticized Putin (harshly, at times), and is still living. He is unusual among Putin’s confidants in his honesty. He is very intelligent, even if he serves an evil regime.

Take him at his word.

I believe he knows Russia will lose this war. Russia may well collapse.
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https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

—————
“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”






Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


That’s not civil war.


Thread title should be: Ukraine raids Russian border town to distract from loss at Bakhmut.


"Loss at Bakhmut" = Russian cope over taking 11 months to capture two of Ukraine's smallest cities, Soledar and Bakhmut, for a total of 22 square km advance, at the expense of tens of thousands of dead Russian troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery. And guess what - the Russians in Bakhmut are now depleted and becoming encircled.


There was a letter to the editor in WAPO this week that asked why we are not seeing more pics and videos of the fighting. Even during Vietnam there were daily reports. I realize that the US is not supposed to have soldiers there, but we are supporting this.
I would be interested in knowing more.


Russian propaganda’s most ridiculous campaign on social media is to spread the nonsensical question:

“why are there no photos or videos of this war?”

The premise is false of course. Ridiculously so.

But since you asked:
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Anonymous wrote:Wtf is happening?

https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

—————
“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”






Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


That’s not civil war.


Thread title should be: Ukraine raids Russian border town to distract from loss at Bakhmut.


"Loss at Bakhmut" = Russian cope over taking 11 months to capture two of Ukraine's smallest cities, Soledar and Bakhmut, for a total of 22 square km advance, at the expense of tens of thousands of dead Russian troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery. And guess what - the Russians in Bakhmut are now depleted and becoming encircled.


There was a letter to the editor in WAPO this week that asked why we are not seeing more pics and videos of the fighting. Even during Vietnam there were daily reports. I realize that the US is not supposed to have soldiers there, but we are supporting this.
I would be interested in knowing more.



This is either the troll-iest or the dumbest comment I've ever read on DCUM. This is the most recorded war in human history. You know there's this thing called the internet, right? From reddit to twitter there is an endless supply of combat footage from Ukraine. Every day. And much of it incredibly brutal. Just because Fox News doesn't show it to you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

As to the original poster, while I do believe separatism by ethnic minorities within Russia will be a significant issue in the years ahead, I do not believe that Russians themselves will engage in civil war. Russians are far too docile. Look at their history - Stalinism, famine, unimaginable losses in WWII, gulags, corruption, deprivation, cultural destruction, and losing 200,000 soldiers (so far) in a war that was supposed to last three days. And nothing. No meaningful resistance or desire for change. If it wasn't for Gorbachev, the Politburo would probably still be in power. Most Russians are deeply cynical. And suffering leavened by vodka is the core of their identity.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf is happening?

https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

—————
“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”






Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


That’s not civil war.


Thread title should be: Ukraine raids Russian border town to distract from loss at Bakhmut.


"Loss at Bakhmut" = Russian cope over taking 11 months to capture two of Ukraine's smallest cities, Soledar and Bakhmut, for a total of 22 square km advance, at the expense of tens of thousands of dead Russian troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery. And guess what - the Russians in Bakhmut are now depleted and becoming encircled.


There was a letter to the editor in WAPO this week that asked why we are not seeing more pics and videos of the fighting. Even during Vietnam there were daily reports. I realize that the US is not supposed to have soldiers there, but we are supporting this.
I would be interested in knowing more.


Apparently you aren't a fan of twitter or social media. There is more footage of this war than any war in history


Nah, lots of it is recycled footage from Iraq, plus excerpts from video games.
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Russians could care less that McDonald’s is gone and they cannot visit Europe or the west.

Banned from international sports? Don’t care.
We can Belarus and….Belarus.

200k families missing a family member from some rural town - non-issue.

I do not see any revolution happening- not because Russians like Putin; they just do not really care about anything big picture or mourn the ones lost in a small special operation.
Only thing that may unite them is an actual invasion- short of that they are lemmings.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf is happening?

https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

—————
“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”






Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


That’s not civil war.


Thread title should be: Ukraine raids Russian border town to distract from loss at Bakhmut.


"Loss at Bakhmut" = Russian cope over taking 11 months to capture two of Ukraine's smallest cities, Soledar and Bakhmut, for a total of 22 square km advance, at the expense of tens of thousands of dead Russian troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery. And guess what - the Russians in Bakhmut are now depleted and becoming encircled.


There was a letter to the editor in WAPO this week that asked why we are not seeing more pics and videos of the fighting. Even during Vietnam there were daily reports. I realize that the US is not supposed to have soldiers there, but we are supporting this.
I would be interested in knowing more.



This is either the troll-iest or the dumbest comment I've ever read on DCUM. This is the most recorded war in human history. You know there's this thing called the internet, right? From reddit to twitter there is an endless supply of combat footage from Ukraine. Every day. And much of it incredibly brutal. Just because Fox News doesn't show it to you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.



Do you ever worry that this combat footage comes from the same, or similar sources? Is there a similar volume of combat and non combat footage from the other side?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf is happening?

https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

—————
“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”






Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


That’s not civil war.


Thread title should be: Ukraine raids Russian border town to distract from loss at Bakhmut.


"Loss at Bakhmut" = Russian cope over taking 11 months to capture two of Ukraine's smallest cities, Soledar and Bakhmut, for a total of 22 square km advance, at the expense of tens of thousands of dead Russian troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery. And guess what - the Russians in Bakhmut are now depleted and becoming encircled.


There was a letter to the editor in WAPO this week that asked why we are not seeing more pics and videos of the fighting. Even during Vietnam there were daily reports. I realize that the US is not supposed to have soldiers there, but we are supporting this.
I would be interested in knowing more.



This is either the troll-iest or the dumbest comment I've ever read on DCUM. This is the most recorded war in human history. You know there's this thing called the internet, right? From reddit to twitter there is an endless supply of combat footage from Ukraine. Every day. And much of it incredibly brutal. Just because Fox News doesn't show it to you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

As to the original poster, while I do believe separatism by ethnic minorities within Russia will be a significant issue in the years ahead, I do not believe that Russians themselves will engage in civil war. Russians are far too docile. Look at their history - Stalinism, famine, unimaginable losses in WWII, gulags, corruption, deprivation, cultural destruction, and losing 200,000 soldiers (so far) in a war that was supposed to last three days. And nothing. No meaningful resistance or desire for change. If it wasn't for Gorbachev, the Politburo would probably still be in power. Most Russians are deeply cynical. And suffering leavened by vodka is the core of their identity.


Who cares what's on the internet. The question is why is this not being seen on Washington Post, CNN, Fox News, New York Times, USA Today, and the broadcast networks.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf is happening?

https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

—————
“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”






Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


That’s not civil war.


Thread title should be: Ukraine raids Russian border town to distract from loss at Bakhmut.


"Loss at Bakhmut" = Russian cope over taking 11 months to capture two of Ukraine's smallest cities, Soledar and Bakhmut, for a total of 22 square km advance, at the expense of tens of thousands of dead Russian troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery. And guess what - the Russians in Bakhmut are now depleted and becoming encircled.


There was a letter to the editor in WAPO this week that asked why we are not seeing more pics and videos of the fighting. Even during Vietnam there were daily reports. I realize that the US is not supposed to have soldiers there, but we are supporting this.
I would be interested in knowing more.



This is either the troll-iest or the dumbest comment I've ever read on DCUM. This is the most recorded war in human history. You know there's this thing called the internet, right? From reddit to twitter there is an endless supply of combat footage from Ukraine. Every day. And much of it incredibly brutal. Just because Fox News doesn't show it to you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.



Do you ever worry that this combat footage comes from the same, or similar sources? Is there a similar volume of combat and non combat footage from the other side?


You may be the most inept troll ever. There is plenty of footage from both sides all over the internet.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf is happening?

https://www.ft.com/content/0b57c31b-814d-4554-91d8-d49b066cea69

Russian separatists in Ukraine attacking Russia using American hardware lead by literal white nationalists who have white nationalist clothing brands

—————
“Andriy Chernyak, an official from Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate, HUR, acknowledged for the first time some form of co-operation with the Russian Volunteer Corps and Free Russia Legion.

“Of course, we communicate with them. Of course, we share some information,” Chernyak said. “And, one might say, we even co-operate.”
——————

Colborne identified another member of the Russian Volunteer Corps in photographs posted by the group during its Belgorod operation as Russian Aleksandr Skachkov, a rightwing extremist. Skachkov was arrested in Ukraine in 2020 during a raid on people selling translations of the manifesto of the gunman behind the 2019 mass shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, according to Bellingcat.”






Another source for non-subscribers: https://www.rt.com/news/576802-pentagon-hardware-belgorod-attack/

So this Russian civil war seems to be nothing but a short-lived raid by Ukraine forces, using American hardware, supported by a few Russian stooges. There were probably more people posting about it on social media than there were participating in the actual "civil war."


Wow, RT. Tell me you're a troll without saying you're a troll. If a couple of hundred lightly armed russians can cross the border of a country at war and capture towns, that's pretty embarrassing for an army that used to be feared


That’s not civil war.


Thread title should be: Ukraine raids Russian border town to distract from loss at Bakhmut.


"Loss at Bakhmut" = Russian cope over taking 11 months to capture two of Ukraine's smallest cities, Soledar and Bakhmut, for a total of 22 square km advance, at the expense of tens of thousands of dead Russian troops and thousands of pieces of armor and artillery. And guess what - the Russians in Bakhmut are now depleted and becoming encircled.


There was a letter to the editor in WAPO this week that asked why we are not seeing more pics and videos of the fighting. Even during Vietnam there were daily reports. I realize that the US is not supposed to have soldiers there, but we are supporting this.
I would be interested in knowing more.



This is either the troll-iest or the dumbest comment I've ever read on DCUM. This is the most recorded war in human history. You know there's this thing called the internet, right? From reddit to twitter there is an endless supply of combat footage from Ukraine. Every day. And much of it incredibly brutal. Just because Fox News doesn't show it to you doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

As to the original poster, while I do believe separatism by ethnic minorities within Russia will be a significant issue in the years ahead, I do not believe that Russians themselves will engage in civil war. Russians are far too docile. Look at their history - Stalinism, famine, unimaginable losses in WWII, gulags, corruption, deprivation, cultural destruction, and losing 200,000 soldiers (so far) in a war that was supposed to last three days. And nothing. No meaningful resistance or desire for change. If it wasn't for Gorbachev, the Politburo would probably still be in power. Most Russians are deeply cynical. And suffering leavened by vodka is the core of their identity.


Who cares what's on the internet. The question is why is this not being seen on Washington Post, CNN, Fox News, New York Times, USA Today, and the broadcast networks.


One of the lead stories today from the NY times

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/24/world/europe/russia-bakhmut-war-what-next.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Russians could care less that McDonald’s is gone and they cannot visit Europe or the west.

Banned from international sports? Don’t care.
We can Belarus and….Belarus.

200k families missing a family member from some rural town - non-issue.

I do not see any revolution happening- not because Russians like Putin; they just do not really care about anything big picture or mourn the ones lost in a small special operation.
Only thing that may unite them is an actual invasion- short of that they are lemmings.


Any Russia family not willing to be lemmings was liquidated by the NKVD (prior to the KGB) under Stalin. Other “troublemakers” disappeared into the Gulag system of the USSR. WWII took care of still others.

Any non-lemmings left quickly fled after 1989 (including millions of Soviet Jews, who reacted to Russia’s rampant anti-Semitism).

The SMO (war) caused even more non-lemmings to flee, including 70k computer programmers, along with an ongoing “brain drain” in Russia.

Russia already faced an existential demographic crisis. Putin’s illegal war is accelerating Russia’s demise.
Anonymous
The NY Times has at least one new article a day, all with pics and some with video. There are top award winning journalists covering this war, go read their stuff and look at their pics.

There is so much drone footage you couldn’t watch it all of you tried. CNN shows video fairly regularly but this isn’t a US war and it’s also over a year now, so it’s not going to be on a popular channel 24/7.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Russians could care less that McDonald’s is gone and they cannot visit Europe or the west.

Banned from international sports? Don’t care.
We can Belarus and….Belarus.

200k families missing a family member from some rural town - non-issue.

I do not see any revolution happening- not because Russians like Putin; they just do not really care about anything big picture or mourn the ones lost in a small special operation.
Only thing that may unite them is an actual invasion- short of that they are lemmings.


LOL. Oh yeah. When I think of great summer vacation fun, Belarus jumps right up to the top of my list. The swimming pools are better than beaches in Turkey or the Italian or Croatian coasts. I can think of nothing more thrilling for the kids than a tour of the Belarusian State Museum of the History of the Great Patriotic War. Yeah.
Anonymous
As long as 90% of Russian women continue to do porn who cares what happens to that country?

Really, since the west stopped using their oil and gas their only contribution to the world is on onlyfans.
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