Did college turn your kids, especially daughters, into political radicals? If so, which college

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DD went to Berkeley and was already liberal before she went. DS was also liberal before he left and went to Stanford.

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Anonymous wrote:My dads biggest regret years ago was sending me to Berkeley! But I am older and not radical at all anymore.

Did you misspell Berzerkly ?

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The crux of the problem is when individuals fail to listen to differing points of view in a respectful and thoughtful manner.

Doesn't matter whether I am a liberal, a conservative, a moderate, or a total agnostic, I still have to live and function in a world full of folks with different perspectives, different experiences, different beliefs, and different priorities. Yet, we all drive on the same roads.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Displaying the Ten Commandments in a classroom doesn’t count as religious instruction?

Nope. It is instilling values into our precious youth.

LOL we'll see how that turns out.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Displaying the Ten Commandments in a classroom doesn’t count as religious instruction?

Nope. It is instilling values into our precious youth.

I only believe in teaching the golden rule…he/she who has the gold makes the rules

[Anonymous]

Wow OP you are an idiot so your kid should go to Liberty or Hillsdale

Because the University of Satan is too intelligent for your kids

[Anonymous]

Nope. Mine majored in accounting. 😀

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Anonymous wrote:My DD graduated from VT a raging leftist activist esp. on abortion issues

Maybe your kid finally learned science

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Mine majored in accounting. 😀

I’m the VT parent pp. So did mine.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans should not go to colleges.

They do tend to be anti-academia, anti-intellectual, anti-education, anti-science, anti-schools, anti-teacher, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans should not go to colleges.

Republicans do not and did not go to college.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/17/opinion/education-american-politics.html

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Displaying the Ten Commandments in a classroom doesn’t count as religious instruction?

Nope. It is instilling values into our precious youth.

Not MY values. Go away MAGAT. My kid is already pretty radicalized left in high school as her bodily autonomy rights are being stripped away and her rights as a gay person are being called in to question all across the country. So I’m watching this post with a ton of interest.

Geeee I wonder who radicalized her?

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Displaying the Ten Commandments in a classroom doesn’t count as religious instruction?

Nope. It is instilling values into our precious youth.

Not MY values. Go away MAGAT. My kid is already pretty radicalized left in high school as her bodily autonomy rights are being stripped away and her rights as a gay person are being called in to question all across the country. So I’m watching this post with a ton of interest.

Geeee I wonder who radicalized her?

If you mean me I would be flattered. She is a bad a$$ force to be reckoned with.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

I think, when judges rule against abortion, thus imposing their fundamentalist religious views on to others, that is an extremism that needs to be called out. Because you are clearly Christian and pro-life, you don't see it that way. But to be clear, it is imposing religious and moral views that not everyone shares. If you don't want an abortion, don't get one, but neither you, nor anyone else has the right to dictate how I manage my body.

You call it a slur without considering anyone else's perspective. That is pretty closed minded, which is what colleges are there to help re-direct. At least see the world through other lenses than your own.

DP. At least be honest here. SCOTUS did not "rule against abortion." They correctly sent the decision back to the states. That is not ruling against it. Some states have decided to enshrine the right to an abortion into state law. Some have chosen not to, or with restrictions. I'm pro-choice, btw, and feel this was the correct way to manage the issue. It's pretty closed minded of YOU not to allow for the fact that not everyone agrees with YOU.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want to keep your DD conservative, you have to keep her home and stupid.

Education leads to more liberal/Democrat views, because the more you know the more you know Republicans are just craven, racist, self-serving hypocrites.

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000187-a908-dfb1-a5df-e90da92d0000&nname=playbook&nid=0000014f-1646-d88f-a1cf-5f46b7bd0000&nrid=00000157-e4e0-df2b-a977-fcfc15350000&nlid=630318

There’s a generalization.

DP, but it is kind of true. There are hundreds of thousands of kids from areas that are predominately white and Christian who emabrk on universities and colleges that are significantly more heterogenius than the communities they came from. They discover that black people aren't just dumb jocks, that Latino's aren't just migrant workers, that Asians aren't just nerdy STEM kids that women have brains, etc. They are also exposed to contrasting viewpoints in humanities courses, maybe that color in some gaps from their high school educations; they are exposed to profressors of varying backgrounds and experiences and college towns with likely more diverse food and cultural offerings than their hometowns.

So it is only likely that at a minimum, these students will at least be more sympathetic to a diverse viewpoint and perspective just as a part of growing up a little.

The thing I think you're not acknowledging is that there's something reductive and homogenizing happening at universities at the moment. I say this as a moderate, independent voter who is part of a university community. The lens through which an increasing number of the concepts in different disciplines is getting filtered does indeed teach that x people "are just" y role in society. Perspective-taking is a dying art, as opposing viewpoints are demonized. And students who don't fall into line (or find their ancestry puts them on the "wrong" side unless they publicly denounce their origins) get harassed.

When our generation went to college and studied the liberal arts (as we were all required to do to some extent whatever our majors), our horizons were broadened by the new experiences and contacts. To some extent, there are illiberal pressures in the opposite direction at the moment.

Well both of my kids are at what I would consider to be fairly moderate to moderate/left universities and I am not seeing anything close to what you are describing. The reactions both kids are having in this world is more against the radical Christian extremism being imposed by a minority of the leadership on to the majority of the populace, and they and their friends and school mates are pushing hard against it. They understand history and this moment in time in our country.

There is no radical Christian extremism. This is slur used by radical progressive extremists against their critics.

BS. The Texas Senate just passed a bill mandating the Ten Commandments, prayer and Bible study time in every public school classroom.

DP. I looked this up and as suspected, you are not being honest here. Do better. The bill just allows the Ten Commandments to be displayed in the classroom - no religious instruction is taking place. The "prayer and Bible" reading time, applies to ANY RELIGION and ANY RELIGIOUS TEXT (or none at all), and children are required to have parental permission to participate. Do better.

"Relating to a period of prayer and reading of the Bible or other religious text in public schools."
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=88R&Bill=SB1396

Unless you are going to also allow for tenets of Islam, Hindi and other global religions, it seems camel/nose/tent-ish to allow this.

Students learn about all world religions in public school - including Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, and yes - Christianity.