Anyone have their daughter in this sorority at Bama?

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Anonymous wrote:Came across this sorority house. My college didn’t have sororities, but this looks amazing. Way better than any hisie I’ve ever lived in.

https://www.al.com/entertainment/2016/10/take_a_look_inside_the_new_13.html

Greek life is huge at Alabama and it is a huge cost as well. #richkids

My kid is starting at Bama next week. I am shocked by the wealth on campus. The entire campus is gorgeous: buildings and students. The sorority houses are so picture perfect they look fake. Everyone on campus is super fit. The posts I see on the Bama moms groups indicate their homes are similarly upscale. Everyone is very, very friendly. The moms have local meet ups (including in the dc metro area). They literally offer to drive kids to/from campus, the airport, etc.

Their network is vast. The parent groups hook up kids for internships, jobs, housing, etc. It’s so unlike anything I expected.

I’ve met some kids from the Bama Greek groups, and they are very outgoing, confident, and friendly. Upperclassmen are volunteering to help students move in, move furniture, etc.

I know the Bama Rush Tik Toks are over the top. But I would encourage everyone to reserve labeling everyone.

Yes, everyone is “so sweet” on the surface. But you will never actually be their friend. Those circles are closed and they have prepped their girls for two years to rush “successfully” (staged social media, football games with social strategy, and networking to meet older girls who will then lobby for them during rush.) Their homes are nice because that’s important to southern women in general and property taxes and housing are so inexpensive, they can afford to fuss over their house with the help of their 19 friends who all own interior decorating stores and their 10 friends who all have little art studios.

weird, my daughter was in a sorority at Alabama (from the north) and has been in/to many weddings for her sorority friends, roomed with two after college, gets together with them regularly...I think you spend too much time on the internet.

No sweetheart. I lived there.

They didn't like you, and so you concluded that it's them, not you, right?

Ah, yes. Because it couldn’t possibly be that there’s something you don’t know anything about. Of course.

NP. Which is?

Southern social structure regarding “who you are” (your granddaddy, your family name, your lineage)

DP. Except it's already been established (repeatedly) that most schools - in both the south AND the north - have greek systems. Why are you fixated on the south?

The title of the thread (and the initial exchange with another poster) is about a sorority in Alabama.

How old are you?

Are you 17?

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Anonymous wrote:Alabama is a trash red state that treats women like crap.

Indeed

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Anonymous wrote:Came across this sorority house. My college didn’t have sororities, but this looks amazing. Way better than any hisie I’ve ever lived in.

https://www.al.com/entertainment/2016/10/take_a_look_inside_the_new_13.html

Greek life is huge at Alabama and it is a huge cost as well. #richkids

My kid is starting at Bama next week. I am shocked by the wealth on campus. The entire campus is gorgeous: buildings and students. The sorority houses are so picture perfect they look fake. Everyone on campus is super fit. The posts I see on the Bama moms groups indicate their homes are similarly upscale. Everyone is very, very friendly. The moms have local meet ups (including in the dc metro area). They literally offer to drive kids to/from campus, the airport, etc.

Their network is vast. The parent groups hook up kids for internships, jobs, housing, etc. It’s so unlike anything I expected.

I’ve met some kids from the Bama Greek groups, and they are very outgoing, confident, and friendly. Upperclassmen are volunteering to help students move in, move furniture, etc.

I know the Bama Rush Tik Toks are over the top. But I would encourage everyone to reserve labeling everyone.

Our impression exactly! Especially the bold — everyone is super fit, it is noticeable. The school was such a surprise. DS starts there next week!

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Anonymous wrote:Came across this sorority house. My college didn’t have sororities, but this looks amazing. Way better than any hisie I’ve ever lived in.

https://www.al.com/entertainment/2016/10/take_a_look_inside_the_new_13.html

Greek life is huge at Alabama and it is a huge cost as well. #richkids

My kid is starting at Bama next week. I am shocked by the wealth on campus. The entire campus is gorgeous: buildings and students. The sorority houses are so picture perfect they look fake. Everyone on campus is super fit. The posts I see on the Bama moms groups indicate their homes are similarly upscale. Everyone is very, very friendly. The moms have local meet ups (including in the dc metro area). They literally offer to drive kids to/from campus, the airport, etc.

Their network is vast. The parent groups hook up kids for internships, jobs, housing, etc. It’s so unlike anything I expected.

I’ve met some kids from the Bama Greek groups, and they are very outgoing, confident, and friendly. Upperclassmen are volunteering to help students move in, move furniture, etc.

I know the Bama Rush Tik Toks are over the top. But I would encourage everyone to reserve labeling everyone.

Yes, everyone is “so sweet” on the surface. But you will never actually be their friend. Those circles are closed and they have prepped their girls for two years to rush “successfully” (staged social media, football games with social strategy, and networking to meet older girls who will then lobby for them during rush.) Their homes are nice because that’s important to southern women in general and property taxes and housing are so inexpensive, they can afford to fuss over their house with the help of their 19 friends who all own interior decorating stores and their 10 friends who all have little art studios.

weird, my daughter was in a sorority at Alabama (from the north) and has been in/to many weddings for her sorority friends, roomed with two after college, gets together with them regularly...I think you spend too much time on the internet.

No sweetheart. I lived there.

They didn't like you, and so you concluded that it's them, not you, right?

Ah, yes. Because it couldn’t possibly be that there’s something you don’t know anything about. Of course.

NP. Which is?

Southern social structure regarding “who you are” (your granddaddy, your family name, your lineage)

I’m a Marylander who was never in a sorority, but I know Maryland girls in sororities at Bama, other SEC schools, and other southern schools.

In short: the exclusivity you speak of isn’t a barrier anymore. Looks, personality, and the perception of money trump southern roots and legacy ties. Fact.

Heck, I know some larger girls living it up in Bama sororities. They are fun girls with lots of money, fwiw.

And this is good?

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It’s funny how DCUM is oh-so-surprised by ‘Bama. They must have been expecting the stereotypes they enjoy perpetuating.

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55% of Alabama students are from out of state. I think they've made a concerted effort to bring in full-pay OOS students to make the school seem more desirable, and since there aren't enough wealthy AL residents to support a school of that size. I think rushtok is going to attract even more OOS wealthy suburban girls who want their moment in the sun.

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Anonymous wrote:55% of Alabama students are from out of state. I think they've made a concerted effort to bring in full-pay OOS students to make the school seem more desirable, and since there aren't enough wealthy AL residents to support a school of that size. I think rushtok is going to attract even more OOS wealthy suburban girls who want their moment in the sun.

While my kid never considered it and while ridiculed here. For an average or slightly above average student that needs merit aid and wants the complete "Big" school experience it doesn't get much better than Alabama. It's solid academics, world class sports and Tuscaloosa is the ultimate college town with everything that goes with that. I have known many a kid that went there and had/are having a great experience.

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Anonymous wrote:55% of Alabama students are from out of state. I think they've made a concerted effort to bring in full-pay OOS students to make the school seem more desirable, and since there aren't enough wealthy AL residents to support a school of that size. I think rushtok is going to attract even more OOS wealthy suburban girls who want their moment in the sun.

well, of course they have to accept that many! How many superstar bama students (4.47+ gpa/ 35 ACT/ etc. etc.) do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:55% of Alabama students are from out of state. I think they've made a concerted effort to bring in full-pay OOS students to make the school seem more desirable, and since there aren't enough wealthy AL residents to support a school of that size. I think rushtok is going to attract even more OOS wealthy suburban girls who want their moment in the sun.

Alabama specifically targets Illinois students, as that's a state where the only really good state school is UIUC and it's incredibly difficult to get into UIUC CS/Engineering/Business. So the smart kids who don't want to be full pay at a $70-80K school and who want the big school/sports experience are attracted to Alabama.

SAT of 1420+ and GPA of 3.5+ will get you automatic $28K merit. OOS tuition with fees is ~$32K. So $4K in tuition for an OOS student is a great deal if you are looking for a large, sports focused, greek focused state university and are willing to live in Alabama for 4 years. Given that many get rejected in state at UIUC, it's an affordable choice for many

https://scholarships.ua.edu/freshman/out-of-state/

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Anonymous wrote:55% of Alabama students are from out of state. I think they've made a concerted effort to bring in full-pay OOS students to make the school seem more desirable, and since there aren't enough wealthy AL residents to support a school of that size. I think rushtok is going to attract even more OOS wealthy suburban girls who want their moment in the sun.

well, of course they have to accept that many! How many superstar bama students (4.47+ gpa/ 35 ACT/ etc. etc.) do you know?

Are you inferring that a state that is 33% AA/Hispanic doesn't have any smart people? That would be an ignorant and highly unsavory comment.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny how DCUM is oh-so-surprised by ‘Bama. They must have been expecting the stereotypes they enjoy perpetuating.

I have been getting a similar amount of amusement from this and the travel forum thread about Gulf Shores.

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Anonymous wrote:55% of Alabama students are from out of state. I think they've made a concerted effort to bring in full-pay OOS students to make the school seem more desirable, and since there aren't enough wealthy AL residents to support a school of that size. I think rushtok is going to attract even more OOS wealthy suburban girls who want their moment in the sun.

well, of course they have to accept that many! How many superstar bama students (4.47+ gpa/ 35 ACT/ etc. etc.) do you know?

Are you inferring that a state that is 33% AA/Hispanic doesn't have any smart people? That would be an ignorant and highly unsavory comment.

Not PP, but this has nothing to do with the racial makeup of the state. And everything to do with the fact that Alabama is the nation's fifth least educated state. The public schools K-12 are some of the worst in the country---it doesn't matter your skin color. Fact is only those who can afford private schools in that state get a good education. Only 26% of population has a bachelor degree, whereas MA leads with 44%.

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Anonymous wrote:Came across this sorority house. My college didn’t have sororities, but this looks amazing. Way better than any hisie I’ve ever lived in.

https://www.al.com/entertainment/2016/10/take_a_look_inside_the_new_13.html

Greek life is huge at Alabama and it is a huge cost as well. #richkids

My kid is starting at Bama next week. I am shocked by the wealth on campus. The entire campus is gorgeous: buildings and students. The sorority houses are so picture perfect they look fake. Everyone on campus is super fit. The posts I see on the Bama moms groups indicate their homes are similarly upscale. Everyone is very, very friendly. The moms have local meet ups (including in the dc metro area). They literally offer to drive kids to/from campus, the airport, etc.

Their network is vast. The parent groups hook up kids for internships, jobs, housing, etc. It’s so unlike anything I expected.

I’ve met some kids from the Bama Greek groups, and they are very outgoing, confident, and friendly. Upperclassmen are volunteering to help students move in, move furniture, etc.

I know the Bama Rush Tik Toks are over the top. But I would encourage everyone to reserve labeling everyone.

Our impression exactly! Especially the bold — everyone is super fit, it is noticeable. The school was such a surprise. DS starts there next week!

Super fit? Are you sure. When in college (granted almost 25 years ago), every sorority girl I met had an eating disorder.... seriously...every one.

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That's a quite a house. The interior looks a bit like the Sulgrave Club on Mass Ave., which kind of makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:55% of Alabama students are from out of state. I think they've made a concerted effort to bring in full-pay OOS students to make the school seem more desirable, and since there aren't enough wealthy AL residents to support a school of that size. I think rushtok is going to attract even more OOS wealthy suburban girls who want their moment in the sun.

well, of course they have to accept that many! How many superstar bama students (4.47+ gpa/ 35 ACT/ etc. etc.) do you know?

Are you inferring that a state that is 33% AA/Hispanic doesn't have any smart people? That would be an ignorant and highly unsavory comment.

Not PP, but this has nothing to do with the racial makeup of the state. And everything to do with the fact that Alabama is the nation's fifth least educated state. The public schools K-12 are some of the worst in the country---it doesn't matter your skin color. Fact is only those who can afford private schools in that state get a good education. Only 26% of population has a bachelor degree, whereas MA leads with 44%.

This is patently ridiculous, not to mention, disingenuous, at best, from someone from DC. Setting aside the top high schools in Alabama with 95% proficiency scores, I took a quick look, and you have to go down to somewhere around the 160th best public HS in Alabama to get a math proficiency score as low as the #1 public (non-magnet) HS in DC (Wilson at 32%). The Alabama HS with the worst proficiency rating I could find (that wasn't a juvenile detention center) is better than the #2 DC HS. So you say that lots of kids in DC go to private and magnet schools? They do in Alabama, too. The difference is that good private schools in Alabama are actually affordable to middle class people.

Yes, these scores tend to have mostly to do with socioeconomics, but it's pretty clear that Alabama is doing better at educating poor kids than DC is.