Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:I think her star power is fading. She's overexposed and becoming corny. I think this relationship with Travis made her look lame and hurt her brand.

Whatever you're imagining has no basis in reality. According to the numbers, nothing has hurt Taylor in years. Her star keeps rising.

Her last album flopped. She had to milk her fans by releasing a thousand variations of it to top the charts. She's being ridiculed for how robotic and formulaic her shows are. She peaked in 2023. Clearly on the descent.

This is such a ridiculous take. That’s like saying Paul McCartney hasn’t done too much lately so I guess his star is on the wane and he’s flopping. No. He has cemented his legacy, he is an icon. Taylor could live another 60 years and no one will get near to surpassing a billion dollar tour that sells out MOVIE THEATERS.

She could never make new music again and then just do nostalgia tours every decade and continue to break records. No celebrities stays in the spotlight every year for all of time. It’s just not how it works.

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So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

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Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

Have they even hit the 1 year mark?

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Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

She’ll never be happy with him long term. He isn’t her “twin.” In fact, they have very little in common.

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Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

She’ll never be happy with him long term. He isn’t her “twin.” In fact, they have very little in common.

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Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

She’ll never be happy with him long term. He isn’t her “twin.” In fact, they have very little in common.

People don't usually marry their twin, you nitwit. Her twin is an addict, forever and always he will choose a high over her. He's in a relationship with himself.

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Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

Have they even hit the 1 year mark?

They should be close the one year mark but I don’t think it’s public when they started. He went to a July concert but I think he said he didn’t get to talk to her then (but by mid -Sept it definitely seems they had started dating)

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Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

She’ll never be happy with him long term. He isn’t her “twin.” In fact, they have very little in common.

People don't usually marry their twin, you nitwit. Her twin is an addict, forever and always he will choose a high over her. He's in a relationship with himself.

Come on, get with the times...it's from a lyric in her song Down Bad. "Like I lost my twin."

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Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

She’ll never be happy with him long term. He isn’t her “twin.” In fact, they have very little in common.

IMO, that's why they work. She's always dated her twin, which has never worked in the past.

She's pretty much only stuck to dating those in the entertainment industry. I think Travis and Taylor work because he's 1) not in the entertainment industry so there's no jealousy over her being a bigger, more famous name. 2) he was just as well-known in the sports world; he shines just as bright as her. They are both equally "big deals" in their respective fields.

If you aren't a sports fan then you probably didn't know who Travis Kelce was before the bracelet incident in 2023, but those of us who follow football definitely knew his name and how great it was.

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Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

Have they even hit the 1 year mark?

They're middle aged. You don't need over years plural at their advanced ages to know if you have the right one. Either she wants to marry and make kids with this jock or not.

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Anonymous wrote:She’s definitely overexposed but I can only imagine she’ll take a nice long break after this. For people who know football, he’s not hurting her brand. At the very least, he worships her. How is that damaging?

There's nothing aspirational about him, he's actually embarrassing and several rungs below her. He's forced on her fans. Long-term I think it was a miscalculation for her celebrity and brand power. This never-ending tour, the movie, and the thousand variations of the same lackluster album are all money grabs. Shameless. Bad look. You have to be careful at her age. She's considered extremely old in pop music and frankly, she's been overtaken by the gals in their early 20s. She knows it. Which is why she has to do all these desperate stunts and money grabs to remain "#1".

Disagree. Are we even thinking about the same Taylor Swift? I'm no Swiftie, but you can't deny her business acumen, and her business skills are prodigious. Her decision to produce an Eras tour film is the “highest grossing concert film” (Forbes) earning $92.8 million in its opening weekend. She can do it all with a broken heart - with or without TK.

She even partnered with Google to create a puzzle to reveal the track titles of new songs released from the “vault" which led to boosting her standing in search engines. Her decision to re-record and re-release her early albums is a genius decision to gain personal control of her master right to the records.

Between her wildly popular Eras Tour, mastery of the Billboard charts, billion-dollar fortune, twelve Grammy Awards, domination of the pop culture headlines, and reclamation of her previous albums...yeah, I'd say she is doing okay being globally successful and staying on the Billboard charts.

Here is where people go off the rails about TS. Her TEAM has amazing business acumen, her Dad is apparently very good at this, but Taylor herself? She may make some of those choices sometimes, but I really doubt she is organizing those details. It isn’t her business acumen, she has swarms and teams of people around her to help.

You literally described every CEO ever. They build a great team and make decisions together.

Literally she isn’t doing all the work and her fans ascribe it all to her. It is nutty and speaks to the idea that her fans don’t want to acknowledge they are buying into a corporate machine rather than just liking her music.

If you are not a fan, this may not be the thread for you.

This thread is almost 500 pages of fans and not fans hashing it out. Don’t worry, have faith that your love of Taylor can withstand little push back or questioning of yourself. Even if it can’t, you will have grown a little as a person by asking if it is humanly possible to have done everything you give her credit for.

Everybody knows she has a team, she doesn't book all her flights or build the stage or choreograph everything.

You think her fans think she drives her own bus?

+1 It's cracking me up that anyone would think anyone believes that she literally makes every decision. But we all know that any "corporate culture" starts at the top, the buck stops at the top, etc. Why does not get credit for assembling a great team and treating them well, so that they keep making decisions that are working great? She's the boss.

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She's The Man.

If you are born into the “great team” because at 34 your mom is the business manager, and your dad gifted you a website at 12 for your fan club, no you don’t get credit for that.
Unless you have proof you get to chose your parents when you are born.

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Anonymous wrote:She’s definitely overexposed but I can only imagine she’ll take a nice long break after this. For people who know football, he’s not hurting her brand. At the very least, he worships her. How is that damaging?

There's nothing aspirational about him, he's actually embarrassing and several rungs below her. He's forced on her fans. Long-term I think it was a miscalculation for her celebrity and brand power. This never-ending tour, the movie, and the thousand variations of the same lackluster album are all money grabs. Shameless. Bad look. You have to be careful at her age. She's considered extremely old in pop music and frankly, she's been overtaken by the gals in their early 20s. She knows it. Which is why she has to do all these desperate stunts and money grabs to remain "#1".

Disagree. Are we even thinking about the same Taylor Swift? I'm no Swiftie, but you can't deny her business acumen, and her business skills are prodigious. Her decision to produce an Eras tour film is the “highest grossing concert film” (Forbes) earning $92.8 million in its opening weekend. She can do it all with a broken heart - with or without TK.

She even partnered with Google to create a puzzle to reveal the track titles of new songs released from the “vault" which led to boosting her standing in search engines. Her decision to re-record and re-release her early albums is a genius decision to gain personal control of her master right to the records.

Between her wildly popular Eras Tour, mastery of the Billboard charts, billion-dollar fortune, twelve Grammy Awards, domination of the pop culture headlines, and reclamation of her previous albums...yeah, I'd say she is doing okay being globally successful and staying on the Billboard charts.

Here is where people go off the rails about TS. Her TEAM has amazing business acumen, her Dad is apparently very good at this, but Taylor herself? She may make some of those choices sometimes, but I really doubt she is organizing those details. It isn’t her business acumen, she has swarms and teams of people around her to help.

You literally described every CEO ever. They build a great team and make decisions together.

Literally she isn’t doing all the work and her fans ascribe it all to her. It is nutty and speaks to the idea that her fans don’t want to acknowledge they are buying into a corporate machine rather than just liking her music.

If you are not a fan, this may not be the thread for you.

This thread is almost 500 pages of fans and not fans hashing it out. Don’t worry, have faith that your love of Taylor can withstand little push back or questioning of yourself. Even if it can’t, you will have grown a little as a person by asking if it is humanly possible to have done everything you give her credit for.

Everybody knows she has a team, she doesn't book all her flights or build the stage or choreograph everything.

You think her fans think she drives her own bus?

+1 It's cracking me up that anyone would think anyone believes that she literally makes every decision. But we all know that any "corporate culture" starts at the top, the buck stops at the top, etc. Why does not get credit for assembling a great team and treating them well, so that they keep making decisions that are working great? She's the boss.

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She's The Man.

If you are born into the “great team” because at 34 your mom is the business manager, and your dad gifted you a website at 12 for your fan club, no you don’t get credit for that.
Unless you have proof you get to chose your parents when you are born.

Same for Bezos and jobs and gates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So are they going to get married or what? I want her to be happy

Have they even hit the 1 year mark?

They're middle aged. You don't need over years plural at their advanced ages to know if you have the right one. Either she wants to marry and make kids with this jock or not.

You sound irrational, rational people enjoy life and don’t rush in.

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Anonymous wrote:She’s definitely overexposed but I can only imagine she’ll take a nice long break after this. For people who know football, he’s not hurting her brand. At the very least, he worships her. How is that damaging?

There's nothing aspirational about him, he's actually embarrassing and several rungs below her. He's forced on her fans. Long-term I think it was a miscalculation for her celebrity and brand power. This never-ending tour, the movie, and the thousand variations of the same lackluster album are all money grabs. Shameless. Bad look. You have to be careful at her age. She's considered extremely old in pop music and frankly, she's been overtaken by the gals in their early 20s. She knows it. Which is why she has to do all these desperate stunts and money grabs to remain "#1".

Disagree. Are we even thinking about the same Taylor Swift? I'm no Swiftie, but you can't deny her business acumen, and her business skills are prodigious. Her decision to produce an Eras tour film is the “highest grossing concert film” (Forbes) earning $92.8 million in its opening weekend. She can do it all with a broken heart - with or without TK.

She even partnered with Google to create a puzzle to reveal the track titles of new songs released from the “vault" which led to boosting her standing in search engines. Her decision to re-record and re-release her early albums is a genius decision to gain personal control of her master right to the records.

Between her wildly popular Eras Tour, mastery of the Billboard charts, billion-dollar fortune, twelve Grammy Awards, domination of the pop culture headlines, and reclamation of her previous albums...yeah, I'd say she is doing okay being globally successful and staying on the Billboard charts.

Here is where people go off the rails about TS. Her TEAM has amazing business acumen, her Dad is apparently very good at this, but Taylor herself? She may make some of those choices sometimes, but I really doubt she is organizing those details. It isn’t her business acumen, she has swarms and teams of people around her to help.

You literally described every CEO ever. They build a great team and make decisions together.

Literally she isn’t doing all the work and her fans ascribe it all to her. It is nutty and speaks to the idea that her fans don’t want to acknowledge they are buying into a corporate machine rather than just liking her music.

If you are not a fan, this may not be the thread for you.

This thread is almost 500 pages of fans and not fans hashing it out. Don’t worry, have faith that your love of Taylor can withstand little push back or questioning of yourself. Even if it can’t, you will have grown a little as a person by asking if it is humanly possible to have done everything you give her credit for.

Everybody knows she has a team, she doesn't book all her flights or build the stage or choreograph everything.

You think her fans think she drives her own bus?

+1 It's cracking me up that anyone would think anyone believes that she literally makes every decision. But we all know that any "corporate culture" starts at the top, the buck stops at the top, etc. Why does not get credit for assembling a great team and treating them well, so that they keep making decisions that are working great? She's the boss.

+2
She's The Man.

If you are born into the “great team” because at 34 your mom is the business manager, and your dad gifted you a website at 12 for your fan club, no you don’t get credit for that.
Unless you have proof you get to chose your parents when you are born.

Interesting perspective on a website for overinvolved Tiger parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She’s definitely overexposed but I can only imagine she’ll take a nice long break after this. For people who know football, he’s not hurting her brand. At the very least, he worships her. How is that damaging?

There's nothing aspirational about him, he's actually embarrassing and several rungs below her. He's forced on her fans. Long-term I think it was a miscalculation for her celebrity and brand power. This never-ending tour, the movie, and the thousand variations of the same lackluster album are all money grabs. Shameless. Bad look. You have to be careful at her age. She's considered extremely old in pop music and frankly, she's been overtaken by the gals in their early 20s. She knows it. Which is why she has to do all these desperate stunts and money grabs to remain "#1".

Disagree. Are we even thinking about the same Taylor Swift? I'm no Swiftie, but you can't deny her business acumen, and her business skills are prodigious. Her decision to produce an Eras tour film is the “highest grossing concert film” (Forbes) earning $92.8 million in its opening weekend. She can do it all with a broken heart - with or without TK.

She even partnered with Google to create a puzzle to reveal the track titles of new songs released from the “vault" which led to boosting her standing in search engines. Her decision to re-record and re-release her early albums is a genius decision to gain personal control of her master right to the records.

Between her wildly popular Eras Tour, mastery of the Billboard charts, billion-dollar fortune, twelve Grammy Awards, domination of the pop culture headlines, and reclamation of her previous albums...yeah, I'd say she is doing okay being globally successful and staying on the Billboard charts.

Here is where people go off the rails about TS. Her TEAM has amazing business acumen, her Dad is apparently very good at this, but Taylor herself? She may make some of those choices sometimes, but I really doubt she is organizing those details. It isn’t her business acumen, she has swarms and teams of people around her to help.

You literally described every CEO ever. They build a great team and make decisions together.

Literally she isn’t doing all the work and her fans ascribe it all to her. It is nutty and speaks to the idea that her fans don’t want to acknowledge they are buying into a corporate machine rather than just liking her music.

If you are not a fan, this may not be the thread for you.

This thread is almost 500 pages of fans and not fans hashing it out. Don’t worry, have faith that your love of Taylor can withstand little push back or questioning of yourself. Even if it can’t, you will have grown a little as a person by asking if it is humanly possible to have done everything you give her credit for.

Everybody knows she has a team, she doesn't book all her flights or build the stage or choreograph everything.

You think her fans think she drives her own bus?

+1 It's cracking me up that anyone would think anyone believes that she literally makes every decision. But we all know that any "corporate culture" starts at the top, the buck stops at the top, etc. Why does not get credit for assembling a great team and treating them well, so that they keep making decisions that are working great? She's the boss.

+2
She's The Man.

If you are born into the “great team” because at 34 your mom is the business manager, and your dad gifted you a website at 12 for your fan club, no you don’t get credit for that.
Unless you have proof you get to chose your parents when you are born.

This is true for every dime a dozen influencer out there! Every you tuber! Please.