Will a Trump supporter please explain

[Anonymous]

why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

[Anonymous]

He could take bribes on 5th Avenue, right there on the corner, and they won't care.

[Anonymous]

but but .. Hilllary ... Ukraine... Foundation.. uh..... something something.... oh.. her husband..her emails.

Oh dang, Trump had those issues, too.

[Anonymous]

OP, really.. what do you expect Trumpsters to say. This has been his m.o. in the past. He promised to re-negotiate drug prices with big pharma, but after meeting with them, he instead gave them tax cuts and loosened their regulation. Trumpsters haven't been able to excuse that one either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

So, the company is a partner with Lockheed Martin. Lockheed Martin sold airplanes to DOD. Color me shocked!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

What crime are you alleging was committed by Trump?

[Anonymous]

Trumpsters are in too deep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

What crime are you alleging was committed by Trump?

Bribery, which is actually and specifically outlined in the US Constitution as an impeachable offense.

[Anonymous]

No shell corporation created to receive porn star slush funds from Putin Oligarch is above the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No shell corporation created to receive porn star slush funds from Putin Oligarch is above the law.

But her emails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

If Cohen did these things, and they were illegal he should pay the price. On the other hand, our company frequently hired lobbyists to provide a means of access to congressional representatives so we could encourage them to support legislation that benefitted our company. In many cases after these meetings and at the lobbyists suggestion we make legal campaign contributions to them. Is this pay for play too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:why you all aren't in the streets with torches and pitchforks about the AT&T and Korea Air and Novartis payments? This is WAY worse than the Clinton Foundation stuff--Trump is actually president (not just a candidate), and these companies have pending business before the government (AT&T/Time Warner merger before DOJ, Korea Air plane sale to DOD), and Trump met privately with the company CEOs after his personal attorney received the payments.

1. Trump administration does not support ATT merger--so I don't know how you could argue that it was a payoff.
2. Novartis CEO was at a roundtable dinner (publicly televised) with Trump. Hardly a private dinner.

I'll respond to Korea Air later--I don't have a response to that.

I think there are some important technical questions here. Does a bribe have to be acted on to be a bribe?

Practically speaking, if it wasn't acted on as promised/intimated, what recourse would ATT have? Not as though they could yell out HEY we paid you guys and now you're not playing!

Novartis stated that Cohen promised access to Trump. Even if Trump had no knowledge of it, this whole thing makes Cohen look like a sleaze ball, and this guy represented Trump. Sleaze ball representing a sleaze ball. One wonders what other sleazy thing Cohen did on behalf of Trump.

If Cohen did these things, and they were illegal he should pay the price. On the other hand, our company frequently hired lobbyists to provide a means of access to congressional representatives so we could encourage them to support legislation that benefitted our company. In many cases after these meetings and at the lobbyists suggestion we make legal campaign contributions to them. Is this pay for play too?

Yes. And this is the very thing Trump said he'd stop with the whole drain the swamp thing.

Rs killed campaign finance reform. Big corporation lobbyists are ruining this country.