2nd grade parents - did your kid receive level II services and is he/she eligible for level IV

[Anonymous]

I am wondering about the correlation here. Have been surprised, shocked even, to hear both about some of the kids who did and did not get in at my child's school. Was your child receiving level II services in math, language arts, or both, and was he or she found eligible for level IV? And if your school doesn't do level II, was your child in the highest reading group, math group, other groups as applicable? At least there is an appeal process ....

[Anonymous]

I have a third grader who was not flagged for Level II prior to being admitted to Level IV AAP. Though, at our base school there are no pull outs in grades K-2. DC1 was probably as advanced as anyone in math. The adhd mentioned below caused some difficulties in reading assessments despite being a good reader.

I have my own thoughts on this and whether DC1 should have been flagged for Level II, but I subsequently learned that DC1 is 2E with ADHD so I’m sure that had something to do with it, too.

[Anonymous]

My DC was in the advanced maths and highest reading group. But nnat and gogat were below the cut off. We got a WISC done and the FISQ is 144. We will be submitting it with the appeal.

[Anonymous]

DC was not in LII in 2nd grade; no pull outs. Is strong in math and has above grade reading level. DC was in pool, received high GBRS and acccepted to LIV to start in 3rd grade.

[Anonymous]

My child is in highest groups across the board, above grade level. Cont Math league, JrGreat books, etc. gets highest of everything that is offered basically (I.e. adv math not offered for 2nd grade at our school). Currently ineligible for Level IV but hopeful for appeal. [high GBRS, low test scores - guessing he hates testing, finds it boring and/or races through, but oh well it is what it is]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child is in highest groups across the board, above grade level. Cont Math league, JrGreat books, etc. gets highest of everything that is offered basically (I.e. adv math not offered for 2nd grade at our school). Currently ineligible for Level IV but hopeful for appeal. [high GBRS, low test scores - guessing he hates testing, finds it boring and/or races through, but oh well it is what it is]

Does he do well in DRA or iready Test?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in highest groups across the board, above grade level. Cont Math league, JrGreat books, etc. gets highest of everything that is offered basically (I.e. adv math not offered for 2nd grade at our school). Currently ineligible for Level IV but hopeful for appeal. [high GBRS, low test scores - guessing he hates testing, finds it boring and/or races through, but oh well it is what it is]

Does he do well in DRA or iready Test?

DRA was 34 at time of packet so pretty good?
IReady I have but confess I don’t really know how to read the results. Some tested out or max, level 2 or 3. Scores I think were in the 480-560 range? I remember knowing it was not low but not sure if they were high. I only started frequenting here upon considering appeal.

[Anonymous]

Mine has been Level II for both math and language arts, is in the highest level classes/groups for each, and was accepted to Level IV AAP. We were a bit surprised at the orientation, though. Many kids who were not in the high math and reading groups with my kid still got in. And many other kids who were in those groups didn't get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My child is in highest groups across the board, above grade level. Cont Math league, JrGreat books, etc. gets highest of everything that is offered basically (I.e. adv math not offered for 2nd grade at our school). Currently ineligible for Level IV but hopeful for appeal. [high GBRS, low test scores - guessing he hates testing, finds it boring and/or races through, but oh well it is what it is]

Does he do well in DRA or iready Test?

DRA was 34 at time of packet so pretty good?
IReady I have but confess I don’t really know how to read the results. Some tested out or max, level 2 or 3. Scores I think were in the 480-560 range? I remember knowing it was not low but not sure if they were high. I only started frequenting here upon considering appeal.

The tested out or max score parts are meaningless. They're intended for kids at a K or 1st grade level. Level 2 scores mean that your kid is on grade level. Level 3 mean that your child is one year above grade level. If the iready score report is a mix of Level 2 and Level 3, I wouldn't include it in the appeal.

Are you getting a WISC?

[Anonymous]

Our school is lazy and does not offer LLII services for K-2. So no, my child did not receive them, but got in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mine has been Level II for both math and language arts, is in the highest level classes/groups for each, and was accepted to Level IV AAP. We were a bit surprised at the orientation, though. Many kids who were not in the high math and reading groups with my kid still got in. And many other kids who were in those groups didn't get in.

This is OP. Yes, this was also my experience at orientation. My child's class has different leveled groups in three areas and I saw kids at orientation who were not in the top group for ANY of the three. Likewise, there is a kid who was not at orientation who is in all three top groups. For the latter, I am thinking they must have had a conflict and just couldn't make it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mine has been Level II for both math and language arts, is in the highest level classes/groups for each, and was accepted to Level IV AAP. We were a bit surprised at the orientation, though. Many kids who were not in the high math and reading groups with my kid still got in. And many other kids who were in those groups didn't get in.

This is OP. Yes, this was also my experience at orientation. My child's class has different leveled groups in three areas and I saw kids at orientation who were not in the top group for ANY of the three. Likewise, there is a kid who was not at orientation who is in all three top groups. For the latter, I am thinking they must have had a conflict and just couldn't make it.

What are the 3 areas? Reading, math, and I can’t figure out what the third would be.

[Anonymous]

My child have been getting level II for math and reading since 1st grade. DRA 38. Don't know how to read iready. She was found NOT eligible for AAP. We will appeal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mine has been Level II for both math and language arts, is in the highest level classes/groups for each, and was accepted to Level IV AAP. We were a bit surprised at the orientation, though. Many kids who were not in the high math and reading groups with my kid still got in. And many other kids who were in those groups didn't get in.

This is OP. Yes, this was also my experience at orientation. My child's class has different leveled groups in three areas and I saw kids at orientation who were not in the top group for ANY of the three. Likewise, there is a kid who was not at orientation who is in all three top groups. For the latter, I am thinking they must have had a conflict and just couldn't make it.

What are the 3 areas? Reading, math, and I can’t figure out what the third would be.

This is the first PP and not the OP, but at our school, they switch classes for math and word study. They also do separate reading groups in the classroom as well as with the reading specialist. I don't think the word study really matters, but it is surprising when kids who are neither in the top math class nor are reading one grade level ahead are still accepted into AAP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mine has been Level II for both math and language arts, is in the highest level classes/groups for each, and was accepted to Level IV AAP. We were a bit surprised at the orientation, though. Many kids who were not in the high math and reading groups with my kid still got in. And many other kids who were in those groups didn't get in.

This is OP. Yes, this was also my experience at orientation. My child's class has different leveled groups in three areas and I saw kids at orientation who were not in the top group for ANY of the three. Likewise, there is a kid who was not at orientation who is in all three top groups. For the latter, I am thinking they must have had a conflict and just couldn't make it.

What are the 3 areas? Reading, math, and I can’t figure out what the third would be.

This is the first PP and not the OP, but at our school, they switch classes for math and word study. They also do separate reading groups in the classroom as well as with the reading specialist. I don't think the word study really matters, but it is surprising when kids who are neither in the top math class nor are reading one grade level ahead are still accepted into AAP.

Oh well if that is the case I guess my kid was probably in the top math and word study group last year in 2nd grade and not top reading group - though no one else would know that. Our school doesn’t do pull outs.
I’m the one with the 2E with adhd kid above (also young for the grade).
One thing that I suppose may make a difference is the age norming of the aptitude tests, which I personally think is good. When the kids are flagged for level II, I believe that’s usually at the end of K and 1st, where one year in age difference between youngest & oldest can still make a difference and I think you still see some of math / reading drilling making a difference while the others who were not drilled are catching up. This is just speculation based on my personal experience.