FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.

They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.

This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.

Interesting. In the meetings I’ve attended for this iteration, it has not been evident at all. Nor can you find it in any of their publicly posted documents.

It is all online.

They started in 2018 and pushed through a survey and virtual meetings during covid.

The response was overwhelmingly against rezoning.

The school board openly blamed right wing trumpers of manipulating the survey responses, then tabled the very unpopular rezoning in 2021 so it would not be an issue in the 2023 election, with the hopes that people were not paying attention the first time.

Here is the FCPS version of events.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/boundary-policy

Click on all the embedded links to get a fuller picture of how this started.

The school board still openly holds the belief that opposition to county wide rezoning was just conservatives and #openfcps types infiltrating the survey to fake widespread opposition to county wide rezoning.

As recently as the October 8, 2024 work session on rezoning linked earlier, the school board discusses and asks Thru how they can prevent people (ie conservatives and those against rezoning) from skewing the results of feedback.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i04W3vvtV4w

I am paraphrasing, of course, but it is all there online in Board Docs and videos for anyone who cares enough about their kids and local governance to pay attention and educate themselves.

For those of you who keep saying rezoning is not about "equity" it is right there on the FCPS historicl timeline of rezoning linked above:

"...The One Fairfax policy, adopted in 2017, commits the county and schools to intentionally consider equity when delivering policies, programs, and services. ..."


We shouldn't have to pay this much attention to our schools which should be focused solely on literacy, writing and math skills, sciences, trades education, citizenship, and literacy recovery for the poor 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th graders who did their formative early education during covid "school" and who now are dreadfully behind and in the case of many, functionally illiterate.

We shouldn't have to become political activists spending hours each week connecting the dots of this school board, just to make sure our kids aren't being used as political pawns for someone else's social justice experiment or another adult from across town's property values.

We deserve school leadership that has laser focus on academics, literacy remediation, and trades/college preparation, managing our 4 billion dollar budget correctly, and a non political school system that keeps to the middle avoids unpopular and radical curriculum and pet projects like equity rezoning and county wide rezoning so they can move 6th to middle school.

But here we are and this is the path our blue no matter who friends neighbors have picked for all of us.

Go down the rabbit hole of FCPS and educate yourself for your kids.

Watch the school boatd meetings and work sessions.

Pressure through emails and phone calls Dunne, McElvan, and Moon. They are all very liberal but the closest to the center that we have. Dunne and McElevan are both very smart and savvy with future political aspirations. Moon is old school Fairfax left of center moderate like we had a decade ago before all the crazy activists took over Fairfax politics. Those 3 are the most likely to break from the blind herd and start standing up for parents... if only because they are the only school board members smart enough to see the risks to their future political aspirations.

The rest are a dangerous combination of ideologues who only talk to other ideologues. They will tell you whatever they need to shut you up, then go forward with their plans with no variance.

If you care about rezoning, educate yourself, starting with those two links above.

Research the crazy stuff posted here and find the first person sources.

You will quickly realize the further you go down the FCPS rabbit hole, through videos and documents, that the crazy sounding posters are actually very well informed, and very accurate.

That is what happened to me. I started researching publicly available FCPS and Ffx County documents and video the crazy stuff posted on this website, thinking that surely the stuff is just craziness by trolls with personal axes to grind. I quickly and shockingly discovered that much of it was not made up trolling, but true.

Now I follow FCPS like a hawk, reading and researching everything.

The school board as a whole does not have our kids best interest in mind. Reid is sweet, soft spoken and smiley, but is not as nice as her public persona indicates.

Please educate yourself fully, make your own conclusions, researching everything crazy posted here, and everything reassuring stated (often falsely) by our school board members.

If you resesrch thoroughly enough, you will become very disappointed with many of our local elected officials, including most of the school board.

Unless, of course, you are an activist yourself. Then you will be thrilled with their priorities.

You're going to be sorely disappointed.

Dunne combines some fairly conservative views on spending with the traditional desire on the part of south county polticians to screw northern and western Fairfax to benefit southeastern Fairfax. He'll happily shift boundaries if it means more kids coming into the schools in that part of the county that people try to avoid.

Moon used to be fairly thoughtful, and for that he was rewarded with the FCDC denying him an endorsement in 2019 and instead endorsing left-wingers like Sizemore-Heizer and Omeish. He learned his lesson, which is to do whatever folks like Karl Frisch want. Occasionally he'll challenge something or someone for a moment, and then find himself unable to complete a sentence. He's weary and over the hill.

McElveen still has political ambitions, and he's smart enough to know that the local Democrats are putting their political careers at risk, but then he can't piss off the other Democrats too much. So he'll probably vote against their redistricting plan, but he'll do so knowing that it has enough votes to pass and without calling them out. He's just trying to carve a middle path that might still get him elected to another office later.

This School Board is going to tear FCPS apart, and it's going to be virtually impossible to put it back together. Its future is bleak.

McElveen ran specifically because he didn’t want McDaniel to win an at large seat. It worked out super well for him.

Sizemore-Heizer is far left? What’s so far left about her? Her special education advocacy? She’s been elected by the entire country once and by one of the most conservative magisterial districts another time. That’s a bold statement.

Most people posting on this site aren’t the most politically savvy. They think they are, but they’re not.

The current school board has shifted closer to the center overall from the 2019-2023 board.

Regarding boundaries, until maps are announced, everything is speculation and rumor.

Shifted to the center? Could have fooled me. I guess your definition of shifting to the center is explicitly mentioning equity slightly less on the advice of counsel. I gotta imagine his job primarily involves just sending out daily emails to the school board saying: “remember, even if you are doing it for equity, you have to pretend it’s something else.”

Anyway, only school board shills try to minimize the forthcoming nuclear boundary changes.

Republicans and their “equity” boogeyman aren’t fooling fairfax voters. You’d be better off sticking with candidates making fun of autistic kids like Harry Jackson did, or auctioning off machine guns like that whacko who ran against Frisch did. Should we talk about the lady who stormed the capitol on January 6 that republicans backed? Or that other lady who lied through her teeth claiming to be “independent”.

Harry Jackson! I forgot about that guy. He was unhinged. People literally pulled me aside to tell me about him when the GOP was handing out flyers at BTSN.

Karl Frisch cried regularly in office in his first term and got sworn in on a stack of sexually explicit books featuring sex acts involving minors, and you want to harp on Harry Jackson being unhinged?

He was wacky, too, but he wouldn’t be wasting our money on a Dunn Loring boondoggle or shepherding along destructive boundary changes. They don’t come any worse than Frisch, and the day that freak finally leaves and goes back to California will be a cause for celebration.

Oh noes! Tears!

[Anonymous]

If FCPS is moving on pre K why might the board of supervisors have a potential mega millon bond request for other sites? Where's the special tax district for the original Mount Vernon HS community center? Lorton/Laurel Hill?

What's going on with Reid + Dunne's 15m Bucknell Montessori grant? How is that thing not DOGED?

FCPS compares it to ARL which charges income based tuition, 70% are from parents south of Route 50 looking for outs, satellite locations lower grades-attrition?

FCPS cites Hunters Woods - true magnet function nd Bailey's- paltry oit of boundary. Kennedy Center CETA schools and very expensive or FX taxpayers.
https://www.ed.gov/media/document/fcps-app-108013.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:If FCPS is moving on pre K why might the board of supervisors have a potential mega millon bond request for other sites? Where's the special tax district for the original Mount Vernon HS community center? Lorton/Laurel Hill?

What's going on with Reid + Dunne's 15m Bucknell Montessori grant? How is that thing not DOGED?

FCPS compares it to ARL which charges income based tuition, 70% are from parents south of Route 50 looking for outs, satellite locations lower grades-attrition?

FCPS cites Hunters Woods - true magnet function nd Bailey's- paltry oit of boundary. Kennedy Center CETA schools and very expensive or FX taxpayers.
https://www.ed.gov/media/document/fcps-app-108013.pdf

What on earth is this gobbledygook??

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.

They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.

This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.

Interesting. In the meetings I’ve attended for this iteration, it has not been evident at all. Nor can you find it in any of their publicly posted documents.

It is all online.

They started in 2018 and pushed through a survey and virtual meetings during covid.

The response was overwhelmingly against rezoning.

The school board openly blamed right wing trumpers of manipulating the survey responses, then tabled the very unpopular rezoning in 2021 so it would not be an issue in the 2023 election, with the hopes that people were not paying attention the first time.

Here is the FCPS version of events.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/boundary-policy

Click on all the embedded links to get a fuller picture of how this started.

The school board still openly holds the belief that opposition to county wide rezoning was just conservatives and #openfcps types infiltrating the survey to fake widespread opposition to county wide rezoning.

As recently as the October 8, 2024 work session on rezoning linked earlier, the school board discusses and asks Thru how they can prevent people (ie conservatives and those against rezoning) from skewing the results of feedback.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i04W3vvtV4w

I am paraphrasing, of course, but it is all there online in Board Docs and videos for anyone who cares enough about their kids and local governance to pay attention and educate themselves.

For those of you who keep saying rezoning is not about "equity" it is right there on the FCPS historicl timeline of rezoning linked above:

"...The One Fairfax policy, adopted in 2017, commits the county and schools to intentionally consider equity when delivering policies, programs, and services. ..."


We shouldn't have to pay this much attention to our schools which should be focused solely on literacy, writing and math skills, sciences, trades education, citizenship, and literacy recovery for the poor 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th graders who did their formative early education during covid "school" and who now are dreadfully behind and in the case of many, functionally illiterate.

We shouldn't have to become political activists spending hours each week connecting the dots of this school board, just to make sure our kids aren't being used as political pawns for someone else's social justice experiment or another adult from across town's property values.

We deserve school leadership that has laser focus on academics, literacy remediation, and trades/college preparation, managing our 4 billion dollar budget correctly, and a non political school system that keeps to the middle avoids unpopular and radical curriculum and pet projects like equity rezoning and county wide rezoning so they can move 6th to middle school.

But here we are and this is the path our blue no matter who friends neighbors have picked for all of us.

Go down the rabbit hole of FCPS and educate yourself for your kids.

Watch the school boatd meetings and work sessions.

Pressure through emails and phone calls Dunne, McElvan, and Moon. They are all very liberal but the closest to the center that we have. Dunne and McElevan are both very smart and savvy with future political aspirations. Moon is old school Fairfax left of center moderate like we had a decade ago before all the crazy activists took over Fairfax politics. Those 3 are the most likely to break from the blind herd and start standing up for parents... if only because they are the only school board members smart enough to see the risks to their future political aspirations.

The rest are a dangerous combination of ideologues who only talk to other ideologues. They will tell you whatever they need to shut you up, then go forward with their plans with no variance.

If you care about rezoning, educate yourself, starting with those two links above.

Research the crazy stuff posted here and find the first person sources.

You will quickly realize the further you go down the FCPS rabbit hole, through videos and documents, that the crazy sounding posters are actually very well informed, and very accurate.

That is what happened to me. I started researching publicly available FCPS and Ffx County documents and video the crazy stuff posted on this website, thinking that surely the stuff is just craziness by trolls with personal axes to grind. I quickly and shockingly discovered that much of it was not made up trolling, but true.

Now I follow FCPS like a hawk, reading and researching everything.

The school board as a whole does not have our kids best interest in mind. Reid is sweet, soft spoken and smiley, but is not as nice as her public persona indicates.

Please educate yourself fully, make your own conclusions, researching everything crazy posted here, and everything reassuring stated (often falsely) by our school board members.

If you resesrch thoroughly enough, you will become very disappointed with many of our local elected officials, including most of the school board.

Unless, of course, you are an activist yourself. Then you will be thrilled with their priorities.

You're going to be sorely disappointed.

Dunne combines some fairly conservative views on spending with the traditional desire on the part of south county polticians to screw northern and western Fairfax to benefit southeastern Fairfax. He'll happily shift boundaries if it means more kids coming into the schools in that part of the county that people try to avoid.

Moon used to be fairly thoughtful, and for that he was rewarded with the FCDC denying him an endorsement in 2019 and instead endorsing left-wingers like Sizemore-Heizer and Omeish. He learned his lesson, which is to do whatever folks like Karl Frisch want. Occasionally he'll challenge something or someone for a moment, and then find himself unable to complete a sentence. He's weary and over the hill.

McElveen still has political ambitions, and he's smart enough to know that the local Democrats are putting their political careers at risk, but then he can't piss off the other Democrats too much. So he'll probably vote against their redistricting plan, but he'll do so knowing that it has enough votes to pass and without calling them out. He's just trying to carve a middle path that might still get him elected to another office later.

This School Board is going to tear FCPS apart, and it's going to be virtually impossible to put it back together. Its future is bleak.

McElveen ran specifically because he didn’t want McDaniel to win an at large seat. It worked out super well for him.

Sizemore-Heizer is far left? What’s so far left about her? Her special education advocacy? She’s been elected by the entire country once and by one of the most conservative magisterial districts another time. That’s a bold statement.

Most people posting on this site aren’t the most politically savvy. They think they are, but they’re not.

The current school board has shifted closer to the center overall from the 2019-2023 board.

Regarding boundaries, until maps are announced, everything is speculation and rumor.

Shifted to the center? Could have fooled me. I guess your definition of shifting to the center is explicitly mentioning equity slightly less on the advice of counsel. I gotta imagine his job primarily involves just sending out daily emails to the school board saying: “remember, even if you are doing it for equity, you have to pretend it’s something else.”

Anyway, only school board shills try to minimize the forthcoming nuclear boundary changes.

Republicans and their “equity” boogeyman aren’t fooling fairfax voters. You’d be better off sticking with candidates making fun of autistic kids like Harry Jackson did, or auctioning off machine guns like that whacko who ran against Frisch did. Should we talk about the lady who stormed the capitol on January 6 that republicans backed? Or that other lady who lied through her teeth claiming to be “independent”.

Harry Jackson! I forgot about that guy. He was unhinged. People literally pulled me aside to tell me about him when the GOP was handing out flyers at BTSN.

Karl Frisch cried regularly in office in his first term and got sworn in on a stack of sexually explicit books featuring sex acts involving minors, and you want to harp on Harry Jackson being unhinged?

He was wacky, too, but he wouldn’t be wasting our money on a Dunn Loring boondoggle or shepherding along destructive boundary changes. They don’t come any worse than Frisch, and the day that freak finally leaves and goes back to California will be a cause for celebration.

Oh noes! Tears!

Lots of tears over perceived threats to his partner but not much empathy for kids unless they are LBGTQ. They don’t contribute as much to his never-ending campaign.

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JPS is that you?

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Anonymous wrote:If FCPS is moving on pre K why might the board of supervisors have a potential mega millon bond request for other sites? Where's the special tax district for the original Mount Vernon HS community center? Lorton/Laurel Hill?

What's going on with Reid + Dunne's 15m Bucknell Montessori grant? How is that thing not DOGED?

FCPS compares it to ARL which charges income based tuition, 70% are from parents south of Route 50 looking for outs, satellite locations lower grades-attrition?

FCPS cites Hunters Woods - true magnet function nd Bailey's- paltry oit of boundary. Kennedy Center CETA schools and very expensive or FX taxpayers.
https://www.ed.gov/media/document/fcps-app-108013.pdf

Did you have a stroke?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.

They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.

This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.

Interesting. In the meetings I’ve attended for this iteration, it has not been evident at all. Nor can you find it in any of their publicly posted documents.

It is all online.

They started in 2018 and pushed through a survey and virtual meetings during covid.

The response was overwhelmingly against rezoning.

The school board openly blamed right wing trumpers of manipulating the survey responses, then tabled the very unpopular rezoning in 2021 so it would not be an issue in the 2023 election, with the hopes that people were not paying attention the first time.

Here is the FCPS version of events.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/boundary-policy

Click on all the embedded links to get a fuller picture of how this started.

The school board still openly holds the belief that opposition to county wide rezoning was just conservatives and #openfcps types infiltrating the survey to fake widespread opposition to county wide rezoning.

As recently as the October 8, 2024 work session on rezoning linked earlier, the school board discusses and asks Thru how they can prevent people (ie conservatives and those against rezoning) from skewing the results of feedback.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i04W3vvtV4w

I am paraphrasing, of course, but it is all there online in Board Docs and videos for anyone who cares enough about their kids and local governance to pay attention and educate themselves.

For those of you who keep saying rezoning is not about "equity" it is right there on the FCPS historicl timeline of rezoning linked above:

"...The One Fairfax policy, adopted in 2017, commits the county and schools to intentionally consider equity when delivering policies, programs, and services. ..."


We shouldn't have to pay this much attention to our schools which should be focused solely on literacy, writing and math skills, sciences, trades education, citizenship, and literacy recovery for the poor 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th graders who did their formative early education during covid "school" and who now are dreadfully behind and in the case of many, functionally illiterate.

We shouldn't have to become political activists spending hours each week connecting the dots of this school board, just to make sure our kids aren't being used as political pawns for someone else's social justice experiment or another adult from across town's property values.

We deserve school leadership that has laser focus on academics, literacy remediation, and trades/college preparation, managing our 4 billion dollar budget correctly, and a non political school system that keeps to the middle avoids unpopular and radical curriculum and pet projects like equity rezoning and county wide rezoning so they can move 6th to middle school.

But here we are and this is the path our blue no matter who friends neighbors have picked for all of us.

Go down the rabbit hole of FCPS and educate yourself for your kids.

Watch the school boatd meetings and work sessions.

Pressure through emails and phone calls Dunne, McElvan, and Moon. They are all very liberal but the closest to the center that we have. Dunne and McElevan are both very smart and savvy with future political aspirations. Moon is old school Fairfax left of center moderate like we had a decade ago before all the crazy activists took over Fairfax politics. Those 3 are the most likely to break from the blind herd and start standing up for parents... if only because they are the only school board members smart enough to see the risks to their future political aspirations.

The rest are a dangerous combination of ideologues who only talk to other ideologues. They will tell you whatever they need to shut you up, then go forward with their plans with no variance.

If you care about rezoning, educate yourself, starting with those two links above.

Research the crazy stuff posted here and find the first person sources.

You will quickly realize the further you go down the FCPS rabbit hole, through videos and documents, that the crazy sounding posters are actually very well informed, and very accurate.

That is what happened to me. I started researching publicly available FCPS and Ffx County documents and video the crazy stuff posted on this website, thinking that surely the stuff is just craziness by trolls with personal axes to grind. I quickly and shockingly discovered that much of it was not made up trolling, but true.

Now I follow FCPS like a hawk, reading and researching everything.

The school board as a whole does not have our kids best interest in mind. Reid is sweet, soft spoken and smiley, but is not as nice as her public persona indicates.

Please educate yourself fully, make your own conclusions, researching everything crazy posted here, and everything reassuring stated (often falsely) by our school board members.

If you resesrch thoroughly enough, you will become very disappointed with many of our local elected officials, including most of the school board.

Unless, of course, you are an activist yourself. Then you will be thrilled with their priorities.

You're going to be sorely disappointed.

Dunne combines some fairly conservative views on spending with the traditional desire on the part of south county polticians to screw northern and western Fairfax to benefit southeastern Fairfax. He'll happily shift boundaries if it means more kids coming into the schools in that part of the county that people try to avoid.

Moon used to be fairly thoughtful, and for that he was rewarded with the FCDC denying him an endorsement in 2019 and instead endorsing left-wingers like Sizemore-Heizer and Omeish. He learned his lesson, which is to do whatever folks like Karl Frisch want. Occasionally he'll challenge something or someone for a moment, and then find himself unable to complete a sentence. He's weary and over the hill.

McElveen still has political ambitions, and he's smart enough to know that the local Democrats are putting their political careers at risk, but then he can't piss off the other Democrats too much. So he'll probably vote against their redistricting plan, but he'll do so knowing that it has enough votes to pass and without calling them out. He's just trying to carve a middle path that might still get him elected to another office later.

This School Board is going to tear FCPS apart, and it's going to be virtually impossible to put it back together. Its future is bleak.

McElveen ran specifically because he didn’t want McDaniel to win an at large seat. It worked out super well for him.

Sizemore-Heizer is far left? What’s so far left about her? Her special education advocacy? She’s been elected by the entire country once and by one of the most conservative magisterial districts another time. That’s a bold statement.

Most people posting on this site aren’t the most politically savvy. They think they are, but they’re not.

The current school board has shifted closer to the center overall from the 2019-2023 board.

Regarding boundaries, until maps are announced, everything is speculation and rumor.

Shifted to the center? Could have fooled me. I guess your definition of shifting to the center is explicitly mentioning equity slightly less on the advice of counsel. I gotta imagine his job primarily involves just sending out daily emails to the school board saying: “remember, even if you are doing it for equity, you have to pretend it’s something else.”

Anyway, only school board shills try to minimize the forthcoming nuclear boundary changes.

Republicans and their “equity” boogeyman aren’t fooling fairfax voters. You’d be better off sticking with candidates making fun of autistic kids like Harry Jackson did, or auctioning off machine guns like that whacko who ran against Frisch did. Should we talk about the lady who stormed the capitol on January 6 that republicans backed? Or that other lady who lied through her teeth claiming to be “independent”.

And there you are attempting to dismiss us as republicans when in reality I’ve been a blue voter for most of my life (no longer though exclusively because of the boundary change push).

It’s a very inconvenient truth for you and the Fairfax dems that the Dem families that get moved will largely abandon the party. Sure if that is just a couple thousand families, maybe that won’t be a problem, but a nuclear reset certainly makes things a lot more interesting.

Anyway, this school board is far far left.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the pyramids that are mostly going to be affected?

At the October 8, 2024 work session, the school board affirmatively stated the every high school pyramid will be affected by rezoning. Thru Consulting agreed.

You can watch the video linked above to research it yourself.

I feel like you missed the "mostly" in PP's question... saying every HS pyramid will be affected is not the same as saying every HS pyramid will be affected in equal measure... some will have major changes, some minor ones. I'd say if you live in OR NEAR a split feeder or attendance island, or an area with a particularly long commute to your school (especially if you pass other schools along the way), or a school where you have to shift pyramids (and thus social groups) to attend an AAP center, etc. then you're at higher risk. Note the "or near" part is really important, as to fix a problem in one area likely has an impact on the neighboring areas and some shuffling occurs, even if YOUR school wasn't the attendance island, split feeder, etc.

Very realistic answer. Following what ACPS is projecting, they could also do blank slate + adjustments based on combined capacity + location + natural boarders + “additional data” they’ve collected from community feedback.

They will go big and then maintain small adjustments every 5 years vs allowing what’s happened over the last 40 years of no rezoning (so claimed.) What do Thru Consulting have to lose? FCPS will be able to pass any blame and heat on Thru’s findings, decisions, and creations.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the pyramids that are mostly going to be affected?

At the October 8, 2024 work session, the school board affirmatively stated the every high school pyramid will be affected by rezoning. Thru Consulting agreed.

You can watch the video linked above to research it yourself.

I feel like you missed the "mostly" in PP's question... saying every HS pyramid will be affected is not the same as saying every HS pyramid will be affected in equal measure... some will have major changes, some minor ones. I'd say if you live in OR NEAR a split feeder or attendance island, or an area with a particularly long commute to your school (especially if you pass other schools along the way), or a school where you have to shift pyramids (and thus social groups) to attend an AAP center, etc. then you're at higher risk. Note the "or near" part is really important, as to fix a problem in one area likely has an impact on the neighboring areas and some shuffling occurs, even if YOUR school wasn't the attendance island, split feeder, etc.

Very realistic answer. Following what ACPS is projecting, they could also do blank slate + adjustments based on combined capacity + location + natural boarders + “additional data” they’ve collected from community feedback.

They will go big and then maintain small adjustments every 5 years vs allowing what’s happened over the last 40 years of no rezoning (so claimed.) What do Thru Consulting have to lose? FCPS will be able to pass any blame and heat on Thru’s findings, decisions, and creations.

Pass it off to thru? Gtfo. No way in hell is that going to matter at all.

Don’t forget, the vote at which they’ll make the changes will be recorded and posted for everyone to see.

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A huge issue will be whether there will be grandfathering and, if so, the extent. Every HS boundary change for decades has had generous grandfathering of students already in high school.

If they change course and limit grandfathering to just rising seniors, or eliminate it, all hell will break loose. And those with the most responsibility in that scenario will be Rachna Sizemore-Heizer, Ilryong Moon, and Kyle McDaniel, who in their Governance Committee roles refused to commit to grandfathering when overseeing the revisions to Policy 8130. Their names would live in infamy in the county for many years to come.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, your arrogance is appalling. “A lawsuit is like a scud missile randomly launched against a country with advanced anti-missile technology.”

Who pays for the lawyers that you refer to as “advanced anti-missile technology”? The people who dare to oppose your agenda? Using our tax dollars to pay for lawyers to keep us in line?

I am not intimidated by your boasting. You may feel very powerful, but you are not all powerful.

There is no need to punch down on the people. Work with us. We are getting battered by Musk and Trump. Do not push us. We will push back. Hard.

I’m not boasting. I’m resigned to the political realities in the county.

And, frankly, underwhelmed by the arguments that there’s a counter-strategy with any meat to it.

You won’t be underwhelmed when you see it. And no, you won’t bait me into giving you a roadmap.

I am suggesting that you all pump the brakes and read the room. I am also suggesting that the community that you serve would benefit from a more inclusive and measured approach. We are thrown into chaos by this DOGE garbage and you come across as just as bullying and indifferent as them.

Work with your community, not against it. Stop punching down on the people who you serve. I am reaching out and giving you a path forward where you are the political hero in a time of turmoil, and your response is basically snark and arrogance.

Oh well. I tried. FAFO.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, your arrogance is appalling. “A lawsuit is like a scud missile randomly launched against a country with advanced anti-missile technology.”

Who pays for the lawyers that you refer to as “advanced anti-missile technology”? The people who dare to oppose your agenda? Using our tax dollars to pay for lawyers to keep us in line?

I am not intimidated by your boasting. You may feel very powerful, but you are not all powerful.

There is no need to punch down on the people. Work with us. We are getting battered by Musk and Trump. Do not push us. We will push back. Hard.

I’m not boasting. I’m resigned to the political realities in the county.

And, frankly, underwhelmed by the arguments that there’s a counter-strategy with any meat to it.

You won’t be underwhelmed when you see it. And no, you won’t bait me into giving you a roadmap.

I am suggesting that you all pump the brakes and read the room. I am also suggesting that the community that you serve would benefit from a more inclusive and measured approach. We are thrown into chaos by this DOGE garbage and you come across as just as bullying and indifferent as them.

Work with your community, not against it. Stop punching down on the people who you serve. I am reaching out and giving you a path forward where you are the political hero in a time of turmoil, and your response is basically snark and arrogance.

Oh well. I tried. FAFO.

These Langley people really are high on their own supply.

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Anonymous wrote:BTW, your arrogance is appalling. “A lawsuit is like a scud missile randomly launched against a country with advanced anti-missile technology.”

Who pays for the lawyers that you refer to as “advanced anti-missile technology”? The people who dare to oppose your agenda? Using our tax dollars to pay for lawyers to keep us in line?

I am not intimidated by your boasting. You may feel very powerful, but you are not all powerful.

There is no need to punch down on the people. Work with us. We are getting battered by Musk and Trump. Do not push us. We will push back. Hard.

I’m not boasting. I’m resigned to the political realities in the county.

And, frankly, underwhelmed by the arguments that there’s a counter-strategy with any meat to it.

You won’t be underwhelmed when you see it. And no, you won’t bait me into giving you a roadmap.

I am suggesting that you all pump the brakes and read the room. I am also suggesting that the community that you serve would benefit from a more inclusive and measured approach. We are thrown into chaos by this DOGE garbage and you come across as just as bullying and indifferent as them.

Work with your community, not against it. Stop punching down on the people who you serve. I am reaching out and giving you a path forward where you are the political hero in a time of turmoil, and your response is basically snark and arrogance.

Oh well. I tried. FAFO.

These Langley people really are high on their own supply.

DP. You should count the amount of times you’ve gone after “Langley people” on this thread.

Then you should do some deep soul-searching, and get a life.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.

They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.

This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.

Interesting. In the meetings I’ve attended for this iteration, it has not been evident at all. Nor can you find it in any of their publicly posted documents.

It is all online.

They started in 2018 and pushed through a survey and virtual meetings during covid.

The response was overwhelmingly against rezoning.

The school board openly blamed right wing trumpers of manipulating the survey responses, then tabled the very unpopular rezoning in 2021 so it would not be an issue in the 2023 election, with the hopes that people were not paying attention the first time.

Here is the FCPS version of events.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/boundary-policy

Click on all the embedded links to get a fuller picture of how this started.

The school board still openly holds the belief that opposition to county wide rezoning was just conservatives and #openfcps types infiltrating the survey to fake widespread opposition to county wide rezoning.

As recently as the October 8, 2024 work session on rezoning linked earlier, the school board discusses and asks Thru how they can prevent people (ie conservatives and those against rezoning) from skewing the results of feedback.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i04W3vvtV4w

I am paraphrasing, of course, but it is all there online in Board Docs and videos for anyone who cares enough about their kids and local governance to pay attention and educate themselves.

For those of you who keep saying rezoning is not about "equity" it is right there on the FCPS historicl timeline of rezoning linked above:

"...The One Fairfax policy, adopted in 2017, commits the county and schools to intentionally consider equity when delivering policies, programs, and services. ..."


We shouldn't have to pay this much attention to our schools which should be focused solely on literacy, writing and math skills, sciences, trades education, citizenship, and literacy recovery for the poor 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th graders who did their formative early education during covid "school" and who now are dreadfully behind and in the case of many, functionally illiterate.

We shouldn't have to become political activists spending hours each week connecting the dots of this school board, just to make sure our kids aren't being used as political pawns for someone else's social justice experiment or another adult from across town's property values.

We deserve school leadership that has laser focus on academics, literacy remediation, and trades/college preparation, managing our 4 billion dollar budget correctly, and a non political school system that keeps to the middle avoids unpopular and radical curriculum and pet projects like equity rezoning and county wide rezoning so they can move 6th to middle school.

But here we are and this is the path our blue no matter who friends neighbors have picked for all of us.

Go down the rabbit hole of FCPS and educate yourself for your kids.

Watch the school boatd meetings and work sessions.

Pressure through emails and phone calls Dunne, McElvan, and Moon. They are all very liberal but the closest to the center that we have. Dunne and McElevan are both very smart and savvy with future political aspirations. Moon is old school Fairfax left of center moderate like we had a decade ago before all the crazy activists took over Fairfax politics. Those 3 are the most likely to break from the blind herd and start standing up for parents... if only because they are the only school board members smart enough to see the risks to their future political aspirations.

The rest are a dangerous combination of ideologues who only talk to other ideologues. They will tell you whatever they need to shut you up, then go forward with their plans with no variance.

If you care about rezoning, educate yourself, starting with those two links above.

Research the crazy stuff posted here and find the first person sources.

You will quickly realize the further you go down the FCPS rabbit hole, through videos and documents, that the crazy sounding posters are actually very well informed, and very accurate.

That is what happened to me. I started researching publicly available FCPS and Ffx County documents and video the crazy stuff posted on this website, thinking that surely the stuff is just craziness by trolls with personal axes to grind. I quickly and shockingly discovered that much of it was not made up trolling, but true.

Now I follow FCPS like a hawk, reading and researching everything.

The school board as a whole does not have our kids best interest in mind. Reid is sweet, soft spoken and smiley, but is not as nice as her public persona indicates.

Please educate yourself fully, make your own conclusions, researching everything crazy posted here, and everything reassuring stated (often falsely) by our school board members.

If you resesrch thoroughly enough, you will become very disappointed with many of our local elected officials, including most of the school board.

Unless, of course, you are an activist yourself. Then you will be thrilled with their priorities.

You're going to be sorely disappointed.

Dunne combines some fairly conservative views on spending with the traditional desire on the part of south county polticians to screw northern and western Fairfax to benefit southeastern Fairfax. He'll happily shift boundaries if it means more kids coming into the schools in that part of the county that people try to avoid.

Moon used to be fairly thoughtful, and for that he was rewarded with the FCDC denying him an endorsement in 2019 and instead endorsing left-wingers like Sizemore-Heizer and Omeish. He learned his lesson, which is to do whatever folks like Karl Frisch want. Occasionally he'll challenge something or someone for a moment, and then find himself unable to complete a sentence. He's weary and over the hill.

McElveen still has political ambitions, and he's smart enough to know that the local Democrats are putting their political careers at risk, but then he can't piss off the other Democrats too much. So he'll probably vote against their redistricting plan, but he'll do so knowing that it has enough votes to pass and without calling them out. He's just trying to carve a middle path that might still get him elected to another office later.

This School Board is going to tear FCPS apart, and it's going to be virtually impossible to put it back together. Its future is bleak.

McElveen ran specifically because he didn’t want McDaniel to win an at large seat. It worked out super well for him.

Sizemore-Heizer is far left? What’s so far left about her? Her special education advocacy? She’s been elected by the entire country once and by one of the most conservative magisterial districts another time. That’s a bold statement.

Most people posting on this site aren’t the most politically savvy. They think they are, but they’re not.

The current school board has shifted closer to the center overall from the 2019-2023 board.

Regarding boundaries, until maps are announced, everything is speculation and rumor.

Shifted to the center? Could have fooled me. I guess your definition of shifting to the center is explicitly mentioning equity slightly less on the advice of counsel. I gotta imagine his job primarily involves just sending out daily emails to the school board saying: “remember, even if you are doing it for equity, you have to pretend it’s something else.”

Anyway, only school board shills try to minimize the forthcoming nuclear boundary changes.

Republicans and their “equity” boogeyman aren’t fooling fairfax voters. You’d be better off sticking with candidates making fun of autistic kids like Harry Jackson did, or auctioning off machine guns like that whacko who ran against Frisch did. Should we talk about the lady who stormed the capitol on January 6 that republicans backed? Or that other lady who lied through her teeth claiming to be “independent”.

Harry Jackson! I forgot about that guy. He was unhinged. People literally pulled me aside to tell me about him when the GOP was handing out flyers at BTSN.

Karl Frisch cried regularly in office in his first term and got sworn in on a stack of sexually explicit books featuring sex acts involving minors, and you want to harp on Harry Jackson being unhinged?

He was wacky, too, but he wouldn’t be wasting our money on a Dunn Loring boondoggle or shepherding along destructive boundary changes. They don’t come any worse than Frisch, and the day that freak finally leaves and goes back to California will be a cause for celebration.

I reached out to Harry Jackson because I was concerned about the SBG implemented at Madison H.S. He got back to me right away with an incredibly intelligent and common sense response, and told me that he cared about merit and academic excellence. I don't hear any SB members talk like this, and I think if he had been elected, he would have shut down this equity, get rid of the achievment gap nonsense at my kids' school. Right now, Meren is fine letting Madison students not retake summative assessments like every other high school in FCPS. We are still exempt from the consistent grading policy of FCPS and our kids are less likely to get As. And your telling me Jackson is the wacky one? He would have a problem with this.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.

They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.

This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.

Interesting. In the meetings I’ve attended for this iteration, it has not been evident at all. Nor can you find it in any of their publicly posted documents.

It is all online.

They started in 2018 and pushed through a survey and virtual meetings during covid.

The response was overwhelmingly against rezoning.

The school board openly blamed right wing trumpers of manipulating the survey responses, then tabled the very unpopular rezoning in 2021 so it would not be an issue in the 2023 election, with the hopes that people were not paying attention the first time.

Here is the FCPS version of events.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/boundary-policy

Click on all the embedded links to get a fuller picture of how this started.

The school board still openly holds the belief that opposition to county wide rezoning was just conservatives and #openfcps types infiltrating the survey to fake widespread opposition to county wide rezoning.

As recently as the October 8, 2024 work session on rezoning linked earlier, the school board discusses and asks Thru how they can prevent people (ie conservatives and those against rezoning) from skewing the results of feedback.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i04W3vvtV4w

I am paraphrasing, of course, but it is all there online in Board Docs and videos for anyone who cares enough about their kids and local governance to pay attention and educate themselves.

For those of you who keep saying rezoning is not about "equity" it is right there on the FCPS historicl timeline of rezoning linked above:

"...The One Fairfax policy, adopted in 2017, commits the county and schools to intentionally consider equity when delivering policies, programs, and services. ..."


We shouldn't have to pay this much attention to our schools which should be focused solely on literacy, writing and math skills, sciences, trades education, citizenship, and literacy recovery for the poor 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th graders who did their formative early education during covid "school" and who now are dreadfully behind and in the case of many, functionally illiterate.

We shouldn't have to become political activists spending hours each week connecting the dots of this school board, just to make sure our kids aren't being used as political pawns for someone else's social justice experiment or another adult from across town's property values.

We deserve school leadership that has laser focus on academics, literacy remediation, and trades/college preparation, managing our 4 billion dollar budget correctly, and a non political school system that keeps to the middle avoids unpopular and radical curriculum and pet projects like equity rezoning and county wide rezoning so they can move 6th to middle school.

But here we are and this is the path our blue no matter who friends neighbors have picked for all of us.

Go down the rabbit hole of FCPS and educate yourself for your kids.

Watch the school boatd meetings and work sessions.

Pressure through emails and phone calls Dunne, McElvan, and Moon. They are all very liberal but the closest to the center that we have. Dunne and McElevan are both very smart and savvy with future political aspirations. Moon is old school Fairfax left of center moderate like we had a decade ago before all the crazy activists took over Fairfax politics. Those 3 are the most likely to break from the blind herd and start standing up for parents... if only because they are the only school board members smart enough to see the risks to their future political aspirations.

The rest are a dangerous combination of ideologues who only talk to other ideologues. They will tell you whatever they need to shut you up, then go forward with their plans with no variance.

If you care about rezoning, educate yourself, starting with those two links above.

Research the crazy stuff posted here and find the first person sources.

You will quickly realize the further you go down the FCPS rabbit hole, through videos and documents, that the crazy sounding posters are actually very well informed, and very accurate.

That is what happened to me. I started researching publicly available FCPS and Ffx County documents and video the crazy stuff posted on this website, thinking that surely the stuff is just craziness by trolls with personal axes to grind. I quickly and shockingly discovered that much of it was not made up trolling, but true.

Now I follow FCPS like a hawk, reading and researching everything.

The school board as a whole does not have our kids best interest in mind. Reid is sweet, soft spoken and smiley, but is not as nice as her public persona indicates.

Please educate yourself fully, make your own conclusions, researching everything crazy posted here, and everything reassuring stated (often falsely) by our school board members.

If you resesrch thoroughly enough, you will become very disappointed with many of our local elected officials, including most of the school board.

Unless, of course, you are an activist yourself. Then you will be thrilled with their priorities.

You're going to be sorely disappointed.

Dunne combines some fairly conservative views on spending with the traditional desire on the part of south county polticians to screw northern and western Fairfax to benefit southeastern Fairfax. He'll happily shift boundaries if it means more kids coming into the schools in that part of the county that people try to avoid.

Moon used to be fairly thoughtful, and for that he was rewarded with the FCDC denying him an endorsement in 2019 and instead endorsing left-wingers like Sizemore-Heizer and Omeish. He learned his lesson, which is to do whatever folks like Karl Frisch want. Occasionally he'll challenge something or someone for a moment, and then find himself unable to complete a sentence. He's weary and over the hill.

McElveen still has political ambitions, and he's smart enough to know that the local Democrats are putting their political careers at risk, but then he can't piss off the other Democrats too much. So he'll probably vote against their redistricting plan, but he'll do so knowing that it has enough votes to pass and without calling them out. He's just trying to carve a middle path that might still get him elected to another office later.

This School Board is going to tear FCPS apart, and it's going to be virtually impossible to put it back together. Its future is bleak.

McElveen ran specifically because he didn’t want McDaniel to win an at large seat. It worked out super well for him.

Sizemore-Heizer is far left? What’s so far left about her? Her special education advocacy? She’s been elected by the entire country once and by one of the most conservative magisterial districts another time. That’s a bold statement.

Most people posting on this site aren’t the most politically savvy. They think they are, but they’re not.

The current school board has shifted closer to the center overall from the 2019-2023 board.

Regarding boundaries, until maps are announced, everything is speculation and rumor.

Shifted to the center? Could have fooled me. I guess your definition of shifting to the center is explicitly mentioning equity slightly less on the advice of counsel. I gotta imagine his job primarily involves just sending out daily emails to the school board saying: “remember, even if you are doing it for equity, you have to pretend it’s something else.”

Anyway, only school board shills try to minimize the forthcoming nuclear boundary changes.

Republicans and their “equity” boogeyman aren’t fooling fairfax voters. You’d be better off sticking with candidates making fun of autistic kids like Harry Jackson did, or auctioning off machine guns like that whacko who ran against Frisch did. Should we talk about the lady who stormed the capitol on January 6 that republicans backed? Or that other lady who lied through her teeth claiming to be “independent”.

Harry Jackson! I forgot about that guy. He was unhinged. People literally pulled me aside to tell me about him when the GOP was handing out flyers at BTSN.

Karl Frisch cried regularly in office in his first term and got sworn in on a stack of sexually explicit books featuring sex acts involving minors, and you want to harp on Harry Jackson being unhinged?

He was wacky, too, but he wouldn’t be wasting our money on a Dunn Loring boondoggle or shepherding along destructive boundary changes. They don’t come any worse than Frisch, and the day that freak finally leaves and goes back to California will be a cause for celebration.

I reached out to Harry Jackson because I was concerned about the SBG implemented at Madison H.S. He got back to me right away with an incredibly intelligent and common sense response, and told me that he cared about merit and academic excellence. I don't hear any SB members talk like this, and I think if he had been elected, he would have shut down this equity, get rid of the achievment gap nonsense at my kids' school. Right now, Meren is fine letting Madison students not retake summative assessments like every other high school in FCPS. We are still exempt from the consistent grading policy of FCPS and our kids are less likely to get As. And your telling me Jackson is the wacky one? He would have a problem with this.

Harry Jackson has a lot of problems.

However, it’s insane that FCPS is letting Madison get away with a flagrant violation of the grading policy. The new gradebook rollout has been such a cluster.