FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:From the Va Governor’s thread:

“It's not the responsibility of the Fairfax Democrats to cower in fear of the consequences of acting on THE BELIEFS AND PRINCIPLES THAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE. The consequences of acting on principles of fairness, diversity and acceptance are BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY. Fairfax is firmly BLUE. No matter what happens in Richmond, Fairfax should act like it, or else people may as well move to a Republican county.”

So, this teeing up to be quite the issue in the fall. Apparently this rezoning is for BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY.

People love it when you tell them what you are entitled to do with their children to make society better. That is a real winning formula.

The pride cometh before the fall. Seems that the school board believes it can act with impunity. Looking forward to working to prove them wrong.

Why should Democrats expect to "fall" for acting like Democrats in a majority Democratic county? That's stupid.

Stupid is forgetting the lessons from Terry mcauliffe’s loss just three short years ago. You may wish the boundary agenda was popular, but it isn’t popular even in deep blue Fairfax. Frankly, it’s this boundary crap that threatens reversion back to purple and red. Anyone who ignores that reveals herself to be a stooopid 🤡.

McAuliffe won Fairfax County. Is the lesson we are supposed to take away that Boutetort should have voted for him in 2021?

I think you’re missing the point. That’s not how votes are counted. It’s not the electoral college, by county.

Fairfax will remain blue, no matter what. The dispositive question in a governors race is just blue Fairfax goes. This boundary review will make Fairfax less blue, just enough for a republican governor to win.

It’s really simple. Pump the brakes on the boundary review, then the issues become just Trump & Musk.

All politics are local. Issues that hit home matter. People invest in their neighborhoods based on the schools. They can’t move now because of interest rates. They are trapped. Changing the boundaries now amid all the chaos, while people feel trapped, has a distinct feel of the school board taking advantage of people who are under duress with no options.

In November, people will send a message. They will tell local politicians, who are only on the school board to climb the political ladder that their local actions to mess with their kids’ schools are a bad move. They will do it in the governor’s race. That’s how Youngkin won.

The FCPS SB has a choice:

1) Put their own, personal, political goals first. Recall that NONE of the school board ran for election on boundary changes, universal pre-k, or the changing middle school to 6-8 to justify the boundary changes and facilitate universal pre-k. People did not vote for them on this basis. The people did NOT ask for this. The current SB would NOT have gotten elected if they stated these as interrelated goals, if elected. These things are being pushed through to give a certain politician who has lost a race at the next level a big badge of honor (“I got UPK”). This path will get a republican elected governor in Virginia in November.

2) Listen to your constituents. Pump the brakes. Stop antagonizing the voters whom you serve during a time of chaos.

Stop taking the “you are so beat down by someone else it doesn’t matter what I do to you, you will hate them more” attitude. Right now, the school board is acting like a friend who witnesses you getting assaulted, runs over to show concern, then steals your wallet as you lie in the street. “Hey, I’m not the one that assaulted you. Between me and them, who do you hate more?” That is not a winning strategy.

Absolutely. Right now my animosity is aimed equally at musk and the school board.

The school board is really doing itself zero favors contributing to the uncertainty. Losing a lot of allies that way.

Completely agree. We just bought a house in Woodson/Frost/Wakefield pyramid (2.2 miles from it) and are part of federal workforce. Now we are stuck between Doge and FCPS (both claiming they know what is good for everyone). If they move us to Annandale High, our vote will reflect this decision by FCPS.

How far are you from Annandale? I mean, silly to think boundaries won’t change. And shame on your realtor for not sharing the possible changes and boasting “great school
Pyramid”.

It is illegal for reators to share anything like that about schools.

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Every house for sale has a list of the assigned schools on its website. That is not illegal for a realtor to share. Why do you think it is posted? It's not a recommendation or a discussion, it is just a fact.

Guess what pyramids are listed for all the homes at risk of redistricting? I’ll tell you it ain’t the school pyramids that they’ll be redistricted to.

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They list the schools the property is currebtly zoned to. What else would make sense?

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There are a lot of well informed people on this board. What are you doing with this insight? How are you educating your neighbors? Do you have a plan for an organized response?

You have me convinced. The proposals will be a nuclear option redraw. They have planned this for years. Many of us will be affected negatively.

So what do we do with this information, right now? Please, I want to get engaged in a positive way.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of well informed people on this board. What are you doing with this insight? How are you educating your neighbors? Do you have a plan for an organized response?

You have me convinced. The proposals will be a nuclear option redraw. They have planned this for years. Many of us will be affected negatively.

So what do we do with this information, right now? Please, I want to get engaged in a positive way.

You need to stop thinking of this as an opportunity for civic activism and recognize you need a disaster plan. That moment has passed. If a hurricane is about to wipe out your house it’s not a good time to be thinking about a new kitchen.

You may want to look at Arlington, Loudoun, or privates.

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Anonymous wrote:They list the schools the property is currebtly zoned to. What else would make sense?

Right. There are posters saying people should be more informed during their house search, but realtors can’t talk about it and Zillow doesn’t disclose anything but the current pyramid.

The sb shills like to say it’s our own fault for not knowing, but there is absolutely no mechanism for knowing to even be concerned in the first place.

Shame on the county and the school board for this bait and switch.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of well informed people on this board. What are you doing with this insight? How are you educating your neighbors? Do you have a plan for an organized response?

You have me convinced. The proposals will be a nuclear option redraw. They have planned this for years. Many of us will be affected negatively.

So what do we do with this information, right now? Please, I want to get engaged in a positive way.

At the very least you could reach out to your four school board members and the BRAC member for your schools. You could also reach out to other Dems, eg BoS or state-level politicians.

Lastly, you can speak at upcoming school board meetings.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.

They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.

This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.

I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.

This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.

You are not educated.

Educate yourself.

Rezoning absolutely was the school boards focus during covid.

They hid it during election year, knowing all the people who don't pay attention would vote blue, not knowing the plans that were already in progress.

The omission was intentional, to get elected.

Um, the Republicans were running on “grooming” and 2020 school closures and attacking trans kids, not on opposing rezoning. If it were intentional, the Republicans would have been making noise about it.

The "loony" Republicans were right about the school board's plans for "equity" and "nuclear" rezoning, although they were actively smeared as racists and called crazy by democrat activists and Dem party candidates. People who dug down and read the documents found that they "loonies" were telling the truth.

The "loony" Republicans protested certain books being put in school libraries, saying they were targeted at young children, exposing them to sexual themes which are inappropriate. Democrat activists and Dem party candidates accuse them of being "anti gay" and lying.

Maybe parents want to actually take a look at the books that the school board insists must be available in the schools. Find out if the "loony" Republicans turn out to be right about that too.

Interesting, but off topic.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of well informed people on this board. What are you doing with this insight? How are you educating your neighbors? Do you have a plan for an organized response?

You have me convinced. The proposals will be a nuclear option redraw. They have planned this for years. Many of us will be affected negatively.

So what do we do with this information, right now? Please, I want to get engaged in a positive way.

You need to stop thinking of this as an opportunity for civic activism and recognize you need a disaster plan. That moment has passed. If a hurricane is about to wipe out your house it’s not a good time to be thinking about a new kitchen.

You may want to look at Arlington, Loudoun, or privates.

Really? That’s the plan? Are you the one who posted useful information or are you one of the people posting “we can do what we want, don’t you dare think you can oppose it” type responses.

If the SB and FCPS have been plugging along, trying to keep things quiet for so long, maybe the remedy is to make as much noise as possible away from SB meetings and in your own community. If people “aren’t paying attention,” maybe now is the time to get them to pay attention.

If this will affect a wide swath of people who don’t see it coming, wouldn’t make sense to let them know it’s coming?

If it’s a hurricane, shouldn’t you tell your neighbors? Get people to work together to deal with the coming storm.

Saying “run away, I’m coming no matter what” is not a credible response from some of the informed posts that I read today. It sounds like a bully trying to intimidate people into compliance without resistance.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.

They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.

This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.

I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.

This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.

You are not educated.

Educate yourself.

Rezoning absolutely was the school boards focus during covid.

They hid it during election year, knowing all the people who don't pay attention would vote blue, not knowing the plans that were already in progress.

The omission was intentional, to get elected.

Um, the Republicans were running on “grooming” and 2020 school closures and attacking trans kids, not on opposing rezoning. If it were intentional, the Republicans would have been making noise about it.

The "loony" Republicans were right about the school board's plans for "equity" and "nuclear" rezoning, although they were actively smeared as racists and called crazy by democrat activists and Dem party candidates. People who dug down and read the documents found that they "loonies" were telling the truth.

The "loony" Republicans protested certain books being put in school libraries, saying they were targeted at young children, exposing them to sexual themes which are inappropriate. Democrat activists and Dem party candidates accuse them of being "anti gay" and lying.

Maybe parents want to actually take a look at the books that the school board insists must be available in the schools. Find out if the "loony" Republicans turn out to be right about that too.

Interesting, but off topic.

DP, but it isn’t. If voters had dug deeper they would have realized who had a far-left agenda that included widespread boundary changes and who wanted FCPS to return to a focus on the basics. Maybe you would have given more thought to crossing a party line in 2023.

If it felt good voting for a Frisch, Lady, or Sandy Anderson, then you need a wake-up call.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of well informed people on this board. What are you doing with this insight? How are you educating your neighbors? Do you have a plan for an organized response?

You have me convinced. The proposals will be a nuclear option redraw. They have planned this for years. Many of us will be affected negatively.

So what do we do with this information, right now? Please, I want to get engaged in a positive way.

You need to stop thinking of this as an opportunity for civic activism and recognize you need a disaster plan. That moment has passed. If a hurricane is about to wipe out your house it’s not a good time to be thinking about a new kitchen.

You may want to look at Arlington, Loudoun, or privates.

Right. Civic activism is only reserved for causes that certain groups support. Just keep calm and keep quiet while the SB does their grand and just work. Or GTFO of the county. Not likely. I am going to make as much noise as I can and shine as bright of a light as possible on this travesty.

It’s not a natural disaster, it’s a choice that is being made by real people.

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.

They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.

This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.

I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.

This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.

You are not educated.

Educate yourself.

Rezoning absolutely was the school boards focus during covid.

They hid it during election year, knowing all the people who don't pay attention would vote blue, not knowing the plans that were already in progress.

The omission was intentional, to get elected.

Um, the Republicans were running on “grooming” and 2020 school closures and attacking trans kids, not on opposing rezoning. If it were intentional, the Republicans would have been making noise about it.

The "loony" Republicans were right about the school board's plans for "equity" and "nuclear" rezoning, although they were actively smeared as racists and called crazy by democrat activists and Dem party candidates. People who dug down and read the documents found that they "loonies" were telling the truth.

The "loony" Republicans protested certain books being put in school libraries, saying they were targeted at young children, exposing them to sexual themes which are inappropriate. Democrat activists and Dem party candidates accuse them of being "anti gay" and lying.

Maybe parents want to actually take a look at the books that the school board insists must be available in the schools. Find out if the "loony" Republicans turn out to be right about that too.

Interesting, but off topic.

DP, but it isn’t. If voters had dug deeper they would have realized who had a far-left agenda that included widespread boundary changes and who wanted FCPS to return to a focus on the basics. Maybe you would have given more thought to crossing a party line in 2023.

If it felt good voting for a Frisch, Lady, or Sandy Anderson, then you need a wake-up call.

I get it, you’re a Republican, maybe one of the candidates who lost, and you’re looking to make Fairfax residents feel bad that they voted for the Dem candidates, who campaigned on better schools and raises for teachers. Republicans fielded Moms of Liberty candidates who talked about bathrooms and banning books. FC voters didn’t like that — SHOCKER — and your candidates lost. Now, instead of trying to be part of the solution to this real problem, you want to scream “I told you so” and throw digital tantrums. It’s not a good look and it’s ultimately not going to help you at all.

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Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of well informed people on this board. What are you doing with this insight? How are you educating your neighbors? Do you have a plan for an organized response?

You have me convinced. The proposals will be a nuclear option redraw. They have planned this for years. Many of us will be affected negatively.

So what do we do with this information, right now? Please, I want to get engaged in a positive way.

You need to stop thinking of this as an opportunity for civic activism and recognize you need a disaster plan. That moment has passed. If a hurricane is about to wipe out your house it’s not a good time to be thinking about a new kitchen.

You may want to look at Arlington, Loudoun, or privates.

People who have gone into the rabbit hole a bit know that One Fairfax, "equity" boundaries, "Standards Based Grading" and other progressive/democrat/whatever you want to call them policies and initiatives were not masterminded in Fairfax. There is an interconnected web of think tanks, foundations, consultants etc. who develop these things. They are communicated to school boards across the country at their Board of Education conferences/trainings etc. Some school systems move faster than others in implementation of these things. If you want to avoid these kinds of policies you don't do it by moving to another city/county controlled by democrats.
If you want to stay in the area and don't want to be directly impacted by these things, go private/homeschool.

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I’m not waiting for any politician or political party to help me. They are all in it for themselves.

I am getting people organized. I am sharing information. We have a plan.

This is [b] not [\b] a done deal.

The time to act is now. Before any proposals drop.

They have a nuclear option. We do too. Mutually assured destruction.

Just press the pause button. De-escalate. Wait until after the 2026 cycle. There is no reason, other than the selfish agenda of a few local politicians, for FCPS to cram through now.

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Anonymous wrote:They list the schools the property is currebtly zoned to. What else would make sense?

Right. There are posters saying people should be more informed during their house search, but realtors can’t talk about it and Zillow doesn’t disclose anything but the current pyramid.

The sb shills like to say it’s our own fault for not knowing, but there is absolutely no mechanism for knowing to even be concerned in the first place.

Shame on the county and the school board for this bait and switch.

Follow the website, look at the agendas, listen to a work session once in awhile while you walk the dog or during your commute.

You could also not dismiss your neighbors as crazy when they tell you the school board is up to something. Look into it first.

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Anonymous wrote:From the Va Governor’s thread:

“It's not the responsibility of the Fairfax Democrats to cower in fear of the consequences of acting on THE BELIEFS AND PRINCIPLES THAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE. The consequences of acting on principles of fairness, diversity and acceptance are BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY. Fairfax is firmly BLUE. No matter what happens in Richmond, Fairfax should act like it, or else people may as well move to a Republican county.”

So, this teeing up to be quite the issue in the fall. Apparently this rezoning is for BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY.

People love it when you tell them what you are entitled to do with their children to make society better. That is a real winning formula.

The pride cometh before the fall. Seems that the school board believes it can act with impunity. Looking forward to working to prove them wrong.

Why should Democrats expect to "fall" for acting like Democrats in a majority Democratic county? That's stupid.

Stupid is forgetting the lessons from Terry mcauliffe’s loss just three short years ago. You may wish the boundary agenda was popular, but it isn’t popular even in deep blue Fairfax. Frankly, it’s this boundary crap that threatens reversion back to purple and red. Anyone who ignores that reveals herself to be a stooopid 🤡.

McAuliffe won Fairfax County. Is the lesson we are supposed to take away that Boutetort should have voted for him in 2021?

I think you’re missing the point. That’s not how votes are counted. It’s not the electoral college, by county.

Fairfax will remain blue, no matter what. The dispositive question in a governors race is just blue Fairfax goes. This boundary review will make Fairfax less blue, just enough for a republican governor to win.

It’s really simple. Pump the brakes on the boundary review, then the issues become just Trump & Musk.

All politics are local. Issues that hit home matter. People invest in their neighborhoods based on the schools. They can’t move now because of interest rates. They are trapped. Changing the boundaries now amid all the chaos, while people feel trapped, has a distinct feel of the school board taking advantage of people who are under duress with no options.

In November, people will send a message. They will tell local politicians, who are only on the school board to climb the political ladder that their local actions to mess with their kids’ schools are a bad move. They will do it in the governor’s race. That’s how Youngkin won.

The FCPS SB has a choice:

1) Put their own, personal, political goals first. Recall that NONE of the school board ran for election on boundary changes, universal pre-k, or the changing middle school to 6-8 to justify the boundary changes and facilitate universal pre-k. People did not vote for them on this basis. The people did NOT ask for this. The current SB would NOT have gotten elected if they stated these as interrelated goals, if elected. These things are being pushed through to give a certain politician who has lost a race at the next level a big badge of honor (“I got UPK”). This path will get a republican elected governor in Virginia in November.

2) Listen to your constituents. Pump the brakes. Stop antagonizing the voters whom you serve during a time of chaos.

Stop taking the “you are so beat down by someone else it doesn’t matter what I do to you, you will hate them more” attitude. Right now, the school board is acting like a friend who witnesses you getting assaulted, runs over to show concern, then steals your wallet as you lie in the street. “Hey, I’m not the one that assaulted you. Between me and them, who do you hate more?” That is not a winning strategy.

Absolutely. Right now my animosity is aimed equally at musk and the school board.

The school board is really doing itself zero favors contributing to the uncertainty. Losing a lot of allies that way.

Completely agree. We just bought a house in Woodson/Frost/Wakefield pyramid (2.2 miles from it) and are part of federal workforce. Now we are stuck between Doge and FCPS (both claiming they know what is good for everyone). If they move us to Annandale High, our vote will reflect this decision by FCPS.

How far are you from Annandale? I mean, silly to think boundaries won’t change. And shame on your realtor for not sharing the possible changes and boasting “great school
Pyramid”.

It is illegal for reators to share anything like that about schools.

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Every house for sale has a list of the assigned schools on its website. That is not illegal for a realtor to share. Why do you think it is posted? It's not a recommendation or a discussion, it is just a fact.

Did you read what you wrote?

You stated:

"... And shame on your realtor for not sharing the possible changes and boasting “great school
Pyramid”..."

No realtor will say that or comment on school quality because that is illegal and could result in them losing their license.

No realtor says what you accuse them of.

The realtor can name the zoned school, tell you how far it is from your house, and what grades attend which school. That is it.

Realtors cannot "boast about great school pyramids"

Are you even a homeowner in Fairfax County? You would know that what you accused realtors of doing is untrue, if you have ever searched for a home in Fairfax County.