FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.


look everyone, it’s a school board shill.

“You dumb dumbs should have known we were going to go after your kids because a differentschool board five years earlier sought to.”

It’s a gross gaslight attempt.


The same party. The new board endorsed by the old. No reversal on One Fairfax boundary policy revision or reversal on the plan to redraw the map from scratch, just a pause. Some of the same members that were on the board in 2018/19 when they were actively working on the policy. Some of the same members who were on the board in early 2020 when they continued working on it after election and pre-covid.

If a commercial developer breaks ground on a new project but has to pause it for cash flow problems and some changes in management, do people who didn't want the project act shocked when they move forward just because "it's been a few years and there's a new CFO and when they did their PR release saying that the company was excited to go into the future they didn't SPECIFICALLY mention that among their projects they were still going to continue building this burger joint on the corner!

No. The project was in the pipeline, and it gets worked on by the new people UNLESS it was specifically cancelled.

It's not hard.


Thanks, Gatehouse. It was in your pipeline no matter who got elected. Got it. Our bad. You know what is best for us and our kids. We deserve everything you plan to do to us. Shame on us for speaking up.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.


This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.


People would have voted for candidates who wanted to ban books if they knew the democrats were planning to overhaul the boundaries?


Or the gun guy or some of the other unhinged maniacs.

The problem is that the people yelling “you voted for this” supported all that nonsense and are butthurt that their lunatics lost, so they’re trying to radicalize parents with (in many cases) reasonable concerns and drown out actual productive discourse.


Republicans are irrelevant. They can't stop voters from communicating with their elected officials.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


Interesting. In the meetings I’ve attended for this iteration, it has not been evident at all. Nor can you find it in any of their publicly posted documents.


It is all online.

They started in 2018 and pushed through a survey and virtual meetings during covid.

The response was overwhelmingly against rezoning.

The school board openly blamed right wing trumpers of manipulating the survey responses, then tabled the very unpopular rezoning in 2021 so it would not be an issue in the 2023 election, with the hopes that people were not paying attention the first time.

Here is the FCPS version of events.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/boundary-policy

Click on all the embedded links to get a fuller picture of how this started.

The school board still openly holds the belief that opposition to county wide rezoning was just conservatives and #openfcps types infiltrating the survey to fake widespread opposition to county wide rezoning.

As recently as the October 8, 2024 work session on rezoning linked earlier, the school board discusses and asks Thru how they can prevent people (ie conservatives and those against rezoning) from skewing the results of feedback.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i04W3vvtV4w

I am paraphrasing, of course, but it is all there online in Board Docs and videos for anyone who cares enough about their kids and local governance to pay attention and educate themselves.

For those of you who keep saying rezoning is not about "equity" it is right there on the FCPS historicl timeline of rezoning linked above:

"...The One Fairfax policy, adopted in 2017, commits the county and schools to intentionally consider equity when delivering policies, programs, and services. ..."


We shouldn't have to pay this much attention to our schools which should be focused solely on literacy, writing and math skills, sciences, trades education, citizenship, and literacy recovery for the poor 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th graders who did their formative early education during covid "school" and who now are dreadfully behind and in the case of many, functionally illiterate.

We shouldn't have to become political activists spending hours each week connecting the dots of this school board, just to make sure our kids aren't being used as political pawns for someone else's social justice experiment or another adult from across town's property values.

We deserve school leadership that has laser focus on academics, literacy remediation, and trades/college preparation, managing our 4 billion dollar budget correctly, and a non political school system that keeps to the middle avoids unpopular and radical curriculum and pet projects like equity rezoning and county wide rezoning so they can move 6th to middle school.

But here we are and this is the path our blue no matter who friends neighbors have picked for all of us.

Go down the rabbit hole of FCPS and educate yourself for your kids.

Watch the school boatd meetings and work sessions.

Pressure through emails and phone calls Dunne, McElvan, and Moon. They are all very liberal but the closest to the center that we have. Dunne and McElevan are both very smart and savvy with future political aspirations. Moon is old school Fairfax left of center moderate like we had a decade ago before all the crazy activists took over Fairfax politics. Those 3 are the most likely to break from the blind herd and start standing up for parents... if only because they are the only school board members smart enough to see the risks to their future political aspirations.

The rest are a dangerous combination of ideologues who only talk to other ideologues. They will tell you whatever they need to shut you up, then go forward with their plans with no variance.

If you care about rezoning, educate yourself, starting with those two links above.

Research the crazy stuff posted here and find the first person sources.

You will quickly realize the further you go down the FCPS rabbit hole, through videos and documents, that the crazy sounding posters are actually very well informed, and very accurate.

That is what happened to me. I started researching publicly available FCPS and Ffx County documents and video the crazy stuff posted on this website, thinking that surely the stuff is just craziness by trolls with personal axes to grind. I quickly and shockingly discovered that much of it was not made up trolling, but true.

Now I follow FCPS like a hawk, reading and researching everything.

The school board as a whole does not have our kids best interest in mind. Reid is sweet, soft spoken and smiley, but is not as nice as her public persona indicates.

Please educate yourself fully, make your own conclusions, researching everything crazy posted here, and everything reassuring stated (often falsely) by our school board members.

If you resesrch thoroughly enough, you will become very disappointed with many of our local elected officials, including most of the school board.

Unless, of course, you are an activist yourself. Then you will be thrilled with their priorities.
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Anonymous wrote:From the Va Governor’s thread:

“It's not the responsibility of the Fairfax Democrats to cower in fear of the consequences of acting on THE BELIEFS AND PRINCIPLES THAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE. The consequences of acting on principles of fairness, diversity and acceptance are BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY. Fairfax is firmly BLUE. No matter what happens in Richmond, Fairfax should act like it, or else people may as well move to a Republican county.”

So, this teeing up to be quite the issue in the fall. Apparently this rezoning is for BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY.

People love it when you tell them what you are entitled to do with their children to make society better. That is a real winning formula.


The pride cometh before the fall. Seems that the school board believes it can act with impunity. Looking forward to working to prove them wrong.


Why should Democrats expect to "fall" for acting like Democrats in a majority Democratic county? That's stupid.


Stupid is forgetting the lessons from Terry mcauliffe’s loss just three short years ago. You may wish the boundary agenda was popular, but it isn’t popular even in deep blue Fairfax. Frankly, it’s this boundary crap that threatens reversion back to purple and red. Anyone who ignores that reveals herself to be a stooopid 🤡.


McAuliffe won Fairfax County. Is the lesson we are supposed to take away that Boutetort should have voted for him in 2021?


I think you’re missing the point. That’s not how votes are counted. It’s not the electoral college, by county.

Fairfax will remain blue, no matter what. The dispositive question in a governors race is just blue Fairfax goes. This boundary review will make Fairfax less blue, just enough for a republican governor to win.

It’s really simple. Pump the brakes on the boundary review, then the issues become just Trump & Musk.

All politics are local. Issues that hit home matter. People invest in their neighborhoods based on the schools. They can’t move now because of interest rates. They are trapped. Changing the boundaries now amid all the chaos, while people feel trapped, has a distinct feel of the school board taking advantage of people who are under duress with no options.

In November, people will send a message. They will tell local politicians, who are only on the school board to climb the political ladder that their local actions to mess with their kids’ schools are a bad move. They will do it in the governor’s race. That’s how Youngkin won.

The FCPS SB has a choice:

1) Put their own, personal, political goals first. Recall that NONE of the school board ran for election on boundary changes, universal pre-k, or the changing middle school to 6-8 to justify the boundary changes and facilitate universal pre-k. People did not vote for them on this basis. The people did NOT ask for this. The current SB would NOT have gotten elected if they stated these as interrelated goals, if elected. These things are being pushed through to give a certain politician who has lost a race at the next level a big badge of honor (“I got UPK”). This path will get a republican elected governor in Virginia in November.

2) Listen to your constituents. Pump the brakes. Stop antagonizing the voters whom you serve during a time of chaos.

Stop taking the “you are so beat down by someone else it doesn’t matter what I do to you, you will hate them more” attitude. Right now, the school board is acting like a friend who witnesses you getting assaulted, runs over to show concern, then steals your wallet as you lie in the street. “Hey, I’m not the one that assaulted you. Between me and them, who do you hate more?” That is not a winning strategy.


Absolutely. Right now my animosity is aimed equally at musk and the school board.

The school board is really doing itself zero favors contributing to the uncertainty. Losing a lot of allies that way.


Completely agree. We just bought a house in Woodson/Frost/Wakefield pyramid (2.2 miles from it) and are part of federal workforce. Now we are stuck between Doge and FCPS (both claiming they know what is good for everyone). If they move us to Annandale High, our vote will reflect this decision by FCPS.


How far are you from Annandale? I mean, silly to think boundaries won’t change. And shame on your realtor for not sharing the possible changes and boasting “great school
Pyramid”.


It is illegal for reators to share anything like that about schools.

Have you never bought a house?
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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.


This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.


You are not educated.

Educate yourself.

Rezoning absolutely was the school boards focus during covid.

They hid it during election year, knowing all the people who don't pay attention would vote blue, not knowing the plans that were already in progress.

The omission was intentional, to get elected.
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Anonymous wrote:If they move us to Annandale High, our vote will reflect this decision by FCPS.


Why is your vote conditional on whether your house happens to make it out unscathed or not? They are already attempting this and it is going to happen to others if not you.


I will not stop this fight until this “process” is not applied to anyone. I am united with all of Fairfax.

Boundary changes are a necessary part of any large school system. But they must be conducted fairly, openly, and on a basis consented to by those whom it affects.

No one ran on changes to 1830. This process is not transparent. This will not stand.


Of course it will stand. Fairfax County will overwhelmingly elect a democratic monopoly on the school board in 2027, even with rezoning. The school board knows this.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.


This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.


You are not educated.

Educate yourself.

Rezoning absolutely was the school boards focus during covid.

They hid it during election year, knowing all the people who don't pay attention would vote blue, not knowing the plans that were already in progress.

The omission was intentional, to get elected.


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See bolded, above. You and I are making the same point.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.


look everyone, it’s a school board shill.

“You dumb dumbs should have known we were going to go after your kids because a differentschool board five years earlier sought to.”

It’s a gross gaslight attempt.


The same party. The new board endorsed by the old. No reversal on One Fairfax boundary policy revision or reversal on the plan to redraw the map from scratch, just a pause. Some of the same members that were on the board in 2018/19 when they were actively working on the policy. Some of the same members who were on the board in early 2020 when they continued working on it after election and pre-covid.

If a commercial developer breaks ground on a new project but has to pause it for cash flow problems and some changes in management, do people who didn't want the project act shocked when they move forward just because "it's been a few years and there's a new CFO and when they did their PR release saying that the company was excited to go into the future they didn't SPECIFICALLY mention that among their projects they were still going to continue building this burger joint on the corner!

No. The project was in the pipeline, and it gets worked on by the new people UNLESS it was specifically cancelled.

It's not hard.


Moon and McElveen are the only current SB members who were on the board in 2018, and they weren’t on the board from 2019-23.

Moon is a senile old “yes” man for Karl Frisch. He got beat up by the FCDC is 2019 and learned his lesson, which is never to challenge the far-left activists now in control of the party. He brings absolutely nothing to the table any longer.

McElveen has actually moved more towards the center as the rest of the board has moved further left. His instincts are that the county-wide plan is poorly conceived and will eventually implode and he’s distanced himself from both Reid and Frisch.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.


This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.


You are not educated.

Educate yourself.

Rezoning absolutely was the school boards focus during covid.

They hid it during election year, knowing all the people who don't pay attention would vote blue, not knowing the plans that were already in progress.

The omission was intentional, to get elected.




Um, the Republicans were running on “grooming” and 2020 school closures and attacking trans kids, not on opposing rezoning. If it were intentional, the Republicans would have been making noise about it.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.


This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.


You are not educated.

Educate yourself.

Rezoning absolutely was the school boards focus during covid.

They hid it during election year, knowing all the people who don't pay attention would vote blue, not knowing the plans that were already in progress.

The omission was intentional, to get elected.




Um, the Republicans were running on “grooming” and 2020 school closures and attacking trans kids, not on opposing rezoning. If it were intentional, the Republicans would have been making noise about it.


DP. Just so you are aware, lots of democrats and former democrats, while generally supportive of trans kids, don’t elevate that issue over their kids being used as pawns by the school board.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


I don’t know why people refuse to remember this. It was not a secret. They didn’t have to say it on the campaigns because they all knew that was on their open to do list.


This is simply not true. If people knew this was what would happen they would not have voted for them.

Just because it was on your to do list, Gatehouse, does not mean the people who voted (and pay your salary) knew that you planned to push this through.


You are not educated.

Educate yourself.

Rezoning absolutely was the school boards focus during covid.

They hid it during election year, knowing all the people who don't pay attention would vote blue, not knowing the plans that were already in progress.

The omission was intentional, to get elected.




Um, the Republicans were running on “grooming” and 2020 school closures and attacking trans kids, not on opposing rezoning. If it were intentional, the Republicans would have been making noise about it.


The "loony" Republicans were right about the school board's plans for "equity" and "nuclear" rezoning, although they were actively smeared as racists and called crazy by democrat activists and Dem party candidates. People who dug down and read the documents found that they "loonies" were telling the truth.

The "loony" Republicans protested certain books being put in school libraries, saying they were targeted at young children, exposing them to sexual themes which are inappropriate. Democrat activists and Dem party candidates accuse them of being "anti gay" and lying.

Maybe parents want to actually take a look at the books that the school board insists must be available in the schools. Find out if the "loony" Republicans turn out to be right about that too.
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Anonymous wrote:From the Va Governor’s thread:

“It's not the responsibility of the Fairfax Democrats to cower in fear of the consequences of acting on THE BELIEFS AND PRINCIPLES THAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE. The consequences of acting on principles of fairness, diversity and acceptance are BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY. Fairfax is firmly BLUE. No matter what happens in Richmond, Fairfax should act like it, or else people may as well move to a Republican county.”

So, this teeing up to be quite the issue in the fall. Apparently this rezoning is for BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY.

People love it when you tell them what you are entitled to do with their children to make society better. That is a real winning formula.


The pride cometh before the fall. Seems that the school board believes it can act with impunity. Looking forward to working to prove them wrong.


Why should Democrats expect to "fall" for acting like Democrats in a majority Democratic county? That's stupid.


Stupid is forgetting the lessons from Terry mcauliffe’s loss just three short years ago. You may wish the boundary agenda was popular, but it isn’t popular even in deep blue Fairfax. Frankly, it’s this boundary crap that threatens reversion back to purple and red. Anyone who ignores that reveals herself to be a stooopid 🤡.


McAuliffe won Fairfax County. Is the lesson we are supposed to take away that Boutetort should have voted for him in 2021?


I think you’re missing the point. That’s not how votes are counted. It’s not the electoral college, by county.

Fairfax will remain blue, no matter what. The dispositive question in a governors race is just blue Fairfax goes. This boundary review will make Fairfax less blue, just enough for a republican governor to win.

It’s really simple. Pump the brakes on the boundary review, then the issues become just Trump & Musk.

All politics are local. Issues that hit home matter. People invest in their neighborhoods based on the schools. They can’t move now because of interest rates. They are trapped. Changing the boundaries now amid all the chaos, while people feel trapped, has a distinct feel of the school board taking advantage of people who are under duress with no options.

In November, people will send a message. They will tell local politicians, who are only on the school board to climb the political ladder that their local actions to mess with their kids’ schools are a bad move. They will do it in the governor’s race. That’s how Youngkin won.

The FCPS SB has a choice:

1) Put their own, personal, political goals first. Recall that NONE of the school board ran for election on boundary changes, universal pre-k, or the changing middle school to 6-8 to justify the boundary changes and facilitate universal pre-k. People did not vote for them on this basis. The people did NOT ask for this. The current SB would NOT have gotten elected if they stated these as interrelated goals, if elected. These things are being pushed through to give a certain politician who has lost a race at the next level a big badge of honor (“I got UPK”). This path will get a republican elected governor in Virginia in November.

2) Listen to your constituents. Pump the brakes. Stop antagonizing the voters whom you serve during a time of chaos.

Stop taking the “you are so beat down by someone else it doesn’t matter what I do to you, you will hate them more” attitude. Right now, the school board is acting like a friend who witnesses you getting assaulted, runs over to show concern, then steals your wallet as you lie in the street. “Hey, I’m not the one that assaulted you. Between me and them, who do you hate more?” That is not a winning strategy.


Absolutely. Right now my animosity is aimed equally at musk and the school board.

The school board is really doing itself zero favors contributing to the uncertainty. Losing a lot of allies that way.


Completely agree. We just bought a house in Woodson/Frost/Wakefield pyramid (2.2 miles from it) and are part of federal workforce. Now we are stuck between Doge and FCPS (both claiming they know what is good for everyone). If they move us to Annandale High, our vote will reflect this decision by FCPS.


How far are you from Annandale? I mean, silly to think boundaries won’t change. And shame on your realtor for not sharing the possible changes and boasting “great school
Pyramid”.


We are 2.1 miles from Woodson and 4.1 miles from Annandale. 2.2 miles from Frost and 5 miles to Poe.
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Anonymous wrote:I am hearing a lot of “this is a democratic school board doing what they were elected to do in a democratic county.”

Did I miss something when the SB was up for election?

Did ANY of the current SB members say run on rewriting the boundary policy 8130?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on the biggest boundary redraw in 40 years, affecting every HS pyramid?

Did ANY of the current SB members run on a boundary review based on capacity, no wait: equity, no wait: middles school 6-8 to make room for universal pre-k?

Did ANY of the current SB members even mention any of this during their campaigns?

Stop saying that the SB is doing what it was elected to do because Fairfax is blue. None of these SB members would be in office if they ran on what they are currently doing.

But, maybe I missed something.


They didn’t run on this. Nor did they discuss the movement of 6th grade to middle school in any of the open community feedback sessions and now sneaking that in. This factor will impact every pyramid redraw.


This was their plan before Covid. I tended a virtual boundary meeting during Covid where parents were given a survey full of confusing questions.


Interesting. In the meetings I’ve attended for this iteration, it has not been evident at all. Nor can you find it in any of their publicly posted documents.


It is all online.

They started in 2018 and pushed through a survey and virtual meetings during covid.

The response was overwhelmingly against rezoning.

The school board openly blamed right wing trumpers of manipulating the survey responses, then tabled the very unpopular rezoning in 2021 so it would not be an issue in the 2023 election, with the hopes that people were not paying attention the first time.

Here is the FCPS version of events.

https://www.fcps.edu/facilities-planning-future/school-boundary-adjustments/boundary-policy

Click on all the embedded links to get a fuller picture of how this started.

The school board still openly holds the belief that opposition to county wide rezoning was just conservatives and #openfcps types infiltrating the survey to fake widespread opposition to county wide rezoning.

As recently as the October 8, 2024 work session on rezoning linked earlier, the school board discusses and asks Thru how they can prevent people (ie conservatives and those against rezoning) from skewing the results of feedback.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i04W3vvtV4w

I am paraphrasing, of course, but it is all there online in Board Docs and videos for anyone who cares enough about their kids and local governance to pay attention and educate themselves.

For those of you who keep saying rezoning is not about "equity" it is right there on the FCPS historicl timeline of rezoning linked above:

"...The One Fairfax policy, adopted in 2017, commits the county and schools to intentionally consider equity when delivering policies, programs, and services. ..."


We shouldn't have to pay this much attention to our schools which should be focused solely on literacy, writing and math skills, sciences, trades education, citizenship, and literacy recovery for the poor 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th graders who did their formative early education during covid "school" and who now are dreadfully behind and in the case of many, functionally illiterate.

We shouldn't have to become political activists spending hours each week connecting the dots of this school board, just to make sure our kids aren't being used as political pawns for someone else's social justice experiment or another adult from across town's property values.

We deserve school leadership that has laser focus on academics, literacy remediation, and trades/college preparation, managing our 4 billion dollar budget correctly, and a non political school system that keeps to the middle avoids unpopular and radical curriculum and pet projects like equity rezoning and county wide rezoning so they can move 6th to middle school.

But here we are and this is the path our blue no matter who friends neighbors have picked for all of us.

Go down the rabbit hole of FCPS and educate yourself for your kids.

Watch the school boatd meetings and work sessions.

Pressure through emails and phone calls Dunne, McElvan, and Moon. They are all very liberal but the closest to the center that we have. Dunne and McElevan are both very smart and savvy with future political aspirations. Moon is old school Fairfax left of center moderate like we had a decade ago before all the crazy activists took over Fairfax politics. Those 3 are the most likely to break from the blind herd and start standing up for parents... if only because they are the only school board members smart enough to see the risks to their future political aspirations.

The rest are a dangerous combination of ideologues who only talk to other ideologues. They will tell you whatever they need to shut you up, then go forward with their plans with no variance.

If you care about rezoning, educate yourself, starting with those two links above.

Research the crazy stuff posted here and find the first person sources.

You will quickly realize the further you go down the FCPS rabbit hole, through videos and documents, that the crazy sounding posters are actually very well informed, and very accurate.

That is what happened to me. I started researching publicly available FCPS and Ffx County documents and video the crazy stuff posted on this website, thinking that surely the stuff is just craziness by trolls with personal axes to grind. I quickly and shockingly discovered that much of it was not made up trolling, but true.

Now I follow FCPS like a hawk, reading and researching everything.

The school board as a whole does not have our kids best interest in mind. Reid is sweet, soft spoken and smiley, but is not as nice as her public persona indicates.

Please educate yourself fully, make your own conclusions, researching everything crazy posted here, and everything reassuring stated (often falsely) by our school board members.

If you resesrch thoroughly enough, you will become very disappointed with many of our local elected officials, including most of the school board.

Unless, of course, you are an activist yourself. Then you will be thrilled with their priorities.


You're going to be sorely disappointed.

Dunne combines some fairly conservative views on spending with the traditional desire on the part of south county polticians to screw northern and western Fairfax to benefit southeastern Fairfax. He'll happily shift boundaries if it means more kids coming into the schools in that part of the county that people try to avoid.

Moon used to be fairly thoughtful, and for that he was rewarded with the FCDC denying him an endorsement in 2019 and instead endorsing left-wingers like Sizemore-Heizer and Omeish. He learned his lesson, which is to do whatever folks like Karl Frisch want. Occasionally he'll challenge something or someone for a moment, and then find himself unable to complete a sentence. He's weary and over the hill.

McElveen still has political ambitions, and he's smart enough to know that the local Democrats are putting their political careers at risk, but then he can't piss off the other Democrats too much. So he'll probably vote against their redistricting plan, but he'll do so knowing that it has enough votes to pass and without calling them out. He's just trying to carve a middle path that might still get him elected to another office later.

This School Board is going to tear FCPS apart, and it's going to be virtually impossible to put it back together. Its future is bleak.
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Anonymous wrote:From the Va Governor’s thread:

“It's not the responsibility of the Fairfax Democrats to cower in fear of the consequences of acting on THE BELIEFS AND PRINCIPLES THAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE. The consequences of acting on principles of fairness, diversity and acceptance are BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY. Fairfax is firmly BLUE. No matter what happens in Richmond, Fairfax should act like it, or else people may as well move to a Republican county.”

So, this teeing up to be quite the issue in the fall. Apparently this rezoning is for BETTER SCHOOLS and a BETTER SOCIETY.

People love it when you tell them what you are entitled to do with their children to make society better. That is a real winning formula.


The pride cometh before the fall. Seems that the school board believes it can act with impunity. Looking forward to working to prove them wrong.


Why should Democrats expect to "fall" for acting like Democrats in a majority Democratic county? That's stupid.


Stupid is forgetting the lessons from Terry mcauliffe’s loss just three short years ago. You may wish the boundary agenda was popular, but it isn’t popular even in deep blue Fairfax. Frankly, it’s this boundary crap that threatens reversion back to purple and red. Anyone who ignores that reveals herself to be a stooopid 🤡.


McAuliffe won Fairfax County. Is the lesson we are supposed to take away that Boutetort should have voted for him in 2021?


I think you’re missing the point. That’s not how votes are counted. It’s not the electoral college, by county.

Fairfax will remain blue, no matter what. The dispositive question in a governors race is just blue Fairfax goes. This boundary review will make Fairfax less blue, just enough for a republican governor to win.

It’s really simple. Pump the brakes on the boundary review, then the issues become just Trump & Musk.

All politics are local. Issues that hit home matter. People invest in their neighborhoods based on the schools. They can’t move now because of interest rates. They are trapped. Changing the boundaries now amid all the chaos, while people feel trapped, has a distinct feel of the school board taking advantage of people who are under duress with no options.

In November, people will send a message. They will tell local politicians, who are only on the school board to climb the political ladder that their local actions to mess with their kids’ schools are a bad move. They will do it in the governor’s race. That’s how Youngkin won.

The FCPS SB has a choice:

1) Put their own, personal, political goals first. Recall that NONE of the school board ran for election on boundary changes, universal pre-k, or the changing middle school to 6-8 to justify the boundary changes and facilitate universal pre-k. People did not vote for them on this basis. The people did NOT ask for this. The current SB would NOT have gotten elected if they stated these as interrelated goals, if elected. These things are being pushed through to give a certain politician who has lost a race at the next level a big badge of honor (“I got UPK”). This path will get a republican elected governor in Virginia in November.

2) Listen to your constituents. Pump the brakes. Stop antagonizing the voters whom you serve during a time of chaos.

Stop taking the “you are so beat down by someone else it doesn’t matter what I do to you, you will hate them more” attitude. Right now, the school board is acting like a friend who witnesses you getting assaulted, runs over to show concern, then steals your wallet as you lie in the street. “Hey, I’m not the one that assaulted you. Between me and them, who do you hate more?” That is not a winning strategy.


Absolutely. Right now my animosity is aimed equally at musk and the school board.

The school board is really doing itself zero favors contributing to the uncertainty. Losing a lot of allies that way.


Completely agree. We just bought a house in Woodson/Frost/Wakefield pyramid (2.2 miles from it) and are part of federal workforce. Now we are stuck between Doge and FCPS (both claiming they know what is good for everyone). If they move us to Annandale High, our vote will reflect this decision by FCPS.


How far are you from Annandale? I mean, silly to think boundaries won’t change. And shame on your realtor for not sharing the possible changes and boasting “great school
Pyramid”.


It is illegal for reators to share anything like that about schools.

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Every house for sale has a list of the assigned schools on its website. That is not illegal for a realtor to share. Why do you think it is posted? It's not a recommendation or a discussion, it is just a fact.
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