Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Not a Republican nor a Democrat; however, I and all my friends and acquaintances (of both parties); don't want any LGBTQ rights rolled back. Everyone in the LGBTQ community should have the same rights as everyone else. We just ask that schools leave our kids alone. We want our teachers to teach reading, math, science, and history. We do not want them teaching our kids, especially the young ones, that they can easily change their gender. That's none of the school's business. That's our business, not yours.

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Another thing that I want is for trans women to stop competing with biological women in women's sports. A biological man should not be competing against biological women. Full stop. Men's bodies are different and have the advantage of being stronger and bigger; and that gives them an unfair advantage. What's happening now is insane. It's like we've gone back in time before the women's movement.

I'll agree with that, but beyond that, unless they are actually doing something criminal, what's between their legs and what they wear is none of your business.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The actual risk of an assault in a women's bathroom or locker room is minuscule but I think the problem is women not feeling comfortable in the space. For example, how many mothers would feel comfortable if they saw a 6'2" transwoman going into a bathroom or locker room where their 10 year old daughter is? How many mothers do you think would feel comfortable having their daughter and even themselves undress and change in a locker room that is no longer a female only space? I've heard stories of women who won't use gym locker rooms anymore because they don't feel comfortable and will wait until they are home to change. This is the reality of these policies. Women will feel driven out of their own spaces.

This is ridiculous. The vast majority of women will never come in contact with a trans person. It’s a small percentage of the population. How could a population that small drive out the overwhelming number of CIS women?! Your numbers and panic make zero sense. You need to find a real problem.

Says the misogynist belittling women's concerns. You sound more and more like the Republicans you demonize. Next you'll tell women to sit down and shut up.....wait... you just did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The actual risk of an assault in a women's bathroom or locker room is minuscule but I think the problem is women not feeling comfortable in the space. For example, how many mothers would feel comfortable if they saw a 6'2" transwoman going into a bathroom or locker room where their 10 year old daughter is? How many mothers do you think would feel comfortable having their daughter and even themselves undress and change in a locker room that is no longer a female only space? I've heard stories of women who won't use gym locker rooms anymore because they don't feel comfortable and will wait until they are home to change. This is the reality of these policies. Women will feel driven out of their own spaces.

And how many will feel comfortable with trans men in their spaces? Because that is the other side of the coin. Are trans men who are forced to use women's bathrooms going to be attacked? Why won't any of you people who always bring up this argument ever address it? Too inconvenient I guess.

I don't care if a trans woman uses the women's restroom if she is transitioning or has transitioned. The problem is you have grown men with beer guts, receding hairlines, and scraggly beards declaring themselves to be women without an effort to at least look like a real woman. If the trans community would only gate-keep it's definitions and standards, we would not be in this problem. Self-Id is just not workable.

[Anonymous]

Someone said if a woman walks into the men’s bathroom, a man will probably be uncomfortable and embarrassed; however, if a man walks into a women’s bathroom, a woman will be uncomfortable and afraid. The man, even a teenager, can overpower a woman and use his fists and penis as a weapon. Biology matters. Sex matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

I don't have to read this thread to know there are multiple posts along the lines of "I don't want to roll back LGBTQ rights, I just want them to all go away so I can pretend they don't exist, and I support laws to make that happen."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Not a Republican nor a Democrat; however, I and all my friends and acquaintances (of both parties); don't want any LGBTQ rights rolled back. Everyone in the LGBTQ community should have the same rights as everyone else. We just ask that schools leave our kids alone. We want our teachers to teach reading, math, science, and history. We do not want them teaching our kids, especially the young ones, that they can easily change their gender. That's none of the school's business. That's our business, not yours.

+1

Another thing that I want is for trans women to stop competing with biological women in women's sports. A biological man should not be competing against biological women. Full stop. Men's bodies are different and have the advantage of being stronger and bigger; and that gives them an unfair advantage. What's happening now is insane. It's like we've gone back in time before the women's movement.

I'll agree with that, but beyond that, unless they are actually doing something criminal, what's between their legs and what they wear is none of your business.

It absolutely is my business if they are interacting in my orb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.

Per the Supreme Court, trans discrimination is sex discrimination. This ship has already sailed.

Also, drag queens aren’t always trans. They’re gay men who perform in drag.

Nice try, liar. That’s not what SCOTUS says. You’ll be crying soon enough when they ban you and your penis from women’s spaces. Make sure to be consistent and not claim they’re “illegitimate” then!

I don’t have a peen, you freak.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Not a Republican nor a Democrat; however, I and all my friends and acquaintances (of both parties); don't want any LGBTQ rights rolled back. Everyone in the LGBTQ community should have the same rights as everyone else. We just ask that schools leave our kids alone. We want our teachers to teach reading, math, science, and history. We do not want them teaching our kids, especially the young ones, that they can easily change their gender. That's none of the school's business. That's our business, not yours.

+1

Another thing that I want is for trans women to stop competing with biological women in women's sports. A biological man should not be competing against biological women. Full stop. Men's bodies are different and have the advantage of being stronger and bigger; and that gives them an unfair advantage. What's happening now is insane. It's like we've gone back in time before the women's movement.

I'll agree with that, but beyond that, unless they are actually doing something criminal, what's between their legs and what they wear is none of your business.

It absolutely is my business if they are interacting in my orb.

So merely existing in your "orb" is a crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Not a Republican nor a Democrat; however, I and all my friends and acquaintances (of both parties); don't want any LGBTQ rights rolled back. Everyone in the LGBTQ community should have the same rights as everyone else. We just ask that schools leave our kids alone. We want our teachers to teach reading, math, science, and history. We do not want them teaching our kids, especially the young ones, that they can easily change their gender. That's none of the school's business. That's our business, not yours.

+1

Another thing that I want is for trans women to stop competing with biological women in women's sports. A biological man should not be competing against biological women. Full stop. Men's bodies are different and have the advantage of being stronger and bigger; and that gives them an unfair advantage. What's happening now is insane. It's like we've gone back in time before the women's movement.

I'll agree with that, but beyond that, unless they are actually doing something criminal, what's between their legs and what they wear is none of your business.

It absolutely is my business if they are interacting in my orb.

So merely existing in your "orb" is a crime.

They are presenting themselves as something they are not. It’s not a crime but it’s certainly deceitful. I like to be aware of deceit around me, thus making it my business

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.

There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.

Right, the majority of men who claim to be trans want nothing to do with women which is why they’re colonizing our sports, bathrooms, domestic violence shelters, rape shelters, locker rooms, medical specialties (what’s a man doing at the Ob/Gyn?), and very identities. That’s why they claim
they’re “lesbians.” That’s why they claim lesbians are “transphobic” for not wanting them. Checks out!

Have never heard of this happening anywhere or to anyone. Please cite your statistics or else admit you are making it up. Not interested in a story you heard or read about. I want you to cite actual numbers so we can make an informed judgment of how much of a threat this is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Not a Republican nor a Democrat; however, I and all my friends and acquaintances (of both parties); don't want any LGBTQ rights rolled back. Everyone in the LGBTQ community should have the same rights as everyone else. We just ask that schools leave our kids alone. We want our teachers to teach reading, math, science, and history. We do not want them teaching our kids, especially the young ones, that they can easily change their gender. That's none of the school's business. That's our business, not yours.

+1

Another thing that I want is for trans women to stop competing with biological women in women's sports. A biological man should not be competing against biological women. Full stop. Men's bodies are different and have the advantage of being stronger and bigger; and that gives them an unfair advantage. What's happening now is insane. It's like we've gone back in time before the women's movement.

I'll agree with that, but beyond that, unless they are actually doing something criminal, what's between their legs and what they wear is none of your business.

It absolutely is my business if they are interacting in my orb.

So merely existing in your "orb" is a crime.

They are presenting themselves as something they are not. It’s not a crime but it’s certainly deceitful. I like to be aware of deceit around me, thus making it my business

You’re not arguing in good faith. You’re just being a d bag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.

There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.

There is already an issue of biological women being harassed for trying to use the womens room because they don't conform to some other woman's expectations of how women should look.

https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/11/01/cis-woman-mistaken-transgender-records-being-berated-bathroom

How about: Leave people alone and mind your own business unless they actually do something criminal or inappropriate.

Orrrr we could just get the crazy men in skirts back to men’s bathrooms. Hmmmm.

Hellloooooo???? Did you not read the article and did you not understand that this was a STRAIGHT BIOLOGICAL FEMALE who went to the WOMENS ROOM and was accosted by some unhinged anti-trans lunatic (like yourself) even though she wasn't trans?

no one had to be suspicious of women in the women’s bathroom until leftist lunatics like you started pretending that men can be women if they say the article of faith “I’m trans.” Let’s pass stiff felony laws banning the scrotums from women’s spaces and women won’t have to worry anymore about being mistaken for the men you held the door open for.

Oh come on. You pretend you can tell the difference yet you can't even tell when a real woman is real. And now you're running around accosting women, shrieking at them, threatening them, and calling police on them saying "you MADE me do it!"

No, you did that on your own.

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In general, not always, their hand size is a give away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.

There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.

Right, the majority of men who claim to be trans want nothing to do with women which is why they’re colonizing our sports, bathrooms, domestic violence shelters, rape shelters, locker rooms, medical specialties (what’s a man doing at the Ob/Gyn?), and very identities. That’s why they claim
they’re “lesbians.” That’s why they claim lesbians are “transphobic” for not wanting them. Checks out!

Have never heard of this happening anywhere or to anyone. Please cite your statistics or else admit you are making it up. Not interested in a story you heard or read about. I want you to cite actual numbers so we can make an informed judgment of how much of a threat this is.

The silly tricks you play that have some women struggling to explain themselves to you while you gaslight them won’t work on me, you toxic little toad. I couldn’t care less about your existence or your opinion or what you claim not to have heard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Not a Republican nor a Democrat; however, I and all my friends and acquaintances (of both parties); don't want any LGBTQ rights rolled back. Everyone in the LGBTQ community should have the same rights as everyone else. We just ask that schools leave our kids alone. We want our teachers to teach reading, math, science, and history. We do not want them teaching our kids, especially the young ones, that they can easily change their gender. That's none of the school's business. That's our business, not yours.

+1

Another thing that I want is for trans women to stop competing with biological women in women's sports. A biological man should not be competing against biological women. Full stop. Men's bodies are different and have the advantage of being stronger and bigger; and that gives them an unfair advantage. What's happening now is insane. It's like we've gone back in time before the women's movement.

I'll agree with that, but beyond that, unless they are actually doing something criminal, what's between their legs and what they wear is none of your business.

It absolutely is my business if they are interacting in my orb.

So merely existing in your "orb" is a crime.

They are presenting themselves as something they are not. It’s not a crime but it’s certainly deceitful. I like to be aware of deceit around me, thus making it my business

This. The idea that some porn-sick male degenerate lurking around women’s spaces is none of our business is just crazy. These people are in a cult and we should stop wasting time on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone said if a woman walks into the men’s bathroom, a man will probably be uncomfortable and embarrassed; however, if a man walks into a women’s bathroom, a woman will be uncomfortable and afraid. The man, even a teenager, can overpower a woman and use his fists and penis as a weapon. Biology matters. Sex matters.

Bingo. And the utterly evil woman-hating d!ck panderers catering to these deluded fetishists know that. They know. They consider us collateral damage and think that any harm done to us is very much worth it.