Who are you voting for in the Dem primary for mayor?

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh, do people still take the NYT seriously?

Well the NYT had been pretty aggressively anti-Mamdani up until a few weeks ago, putting aside their no-endorsement policy to endorse Cuomo over him in the primary and flogging all that nonsense about his Columbia application. So if they're sucking up to him now then presumably it means that a) they think he's going to win and b) they don't think he's going to be such a disaster that they would be better off continuing to antagonize him.

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Stuyvesant grad living in MD, trying to convince my parents in Brooklyn to vote for Mamdani.

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Voting for Mamdani and very excited to do it. Have followed him since 2024 when he was at 6% (!) and loved his platform, ideas, and moral clarity. Never thought he'd make it past the primary and am so proud of the NYC'ers that voted for him.

Media coverage has been incredibly biased with racist undertones, as have been local moms FB groups. Some of the posts and comments are unhinged.

Leaving foreign policy aside, it's funny how much harm the media does in not explaining the difference between a democrat socialist (Mamdani) vs. a communist. But am sure that's their intention.

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Anonymous wrote:Very flattering article on Mandani in the NYT today!

Not PP but here

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Bloomberg grew and ran a gigantic, complex organization. That is a very relevant transferable skill to being mayor and a skill that Mamdani lacks and will become very obvious very quickly. He was the best mayor this city has had in ages (not to set the bar too low). The city would have collapsed during the financial crisis if not for him. All of the super progressives (and I am a left of center Democrat so don't call me MAGA) don't have any understand of a) how hard it is to effectively run the giant bureaucracy that is NYC, and b) how important making nice to the business and real estate community is to funding all of your pet projects - money doesn't grow on trees and raising taxes on the rich, while not an awful idea, will not solve all problems.

People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have. And no, I do not think he was perfect - he made plenty of mistakes. But he was still very good. I thought deBlasio was generally really bad, but give him a lot of credit for universal pre-k. It is very simplistic to view someone as all good or all bad and solely harp on one side of the ledger.

I’m going to call you out on this. Every time someone says this it usually means they are a wealthier voter who doesn’t think there should be much, if any, social safety nets for anyone but themselves… they’re fine with bailing out big banks and tax breaks for big business and large real estate developers, and in my anecdotal world, many of the people I know who say things like this are themselves the children of police, teachers and other unionized employees- but they want to pull the ladder up behind them, although they never say that, they just claim that others don’t ’understand the real world’ like they do. Many of them also don’t seem to have much issue supporting and funding countries like Israel who have the sort of social supports they claim are not ‘possible in the real world’ in the US. Funny how that works

Not PP: I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I'm not a huge fan of Bloomberg. However, as the years have progressed, I have a better understanding of why he did what he did because 1. so much of NYC governance happens in Albany and 2. the intransigence of the large city government bureaucracies. So yes People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Yep, you'll get the free stuff you want in the short term as the city turns into San Francisco in no time. Great.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Bloomberg grew and ran a gigantic, complex organization. That is a very relevant transferable skill to being mayor and a skill that Mamdani lacks and will become very obvious very quickly. He was the best mayor this city has had in ages (not to set the bar too low). The city would have collapsed during the financial crisis if not for him. All of the super progressives (and I am a left of center Democrat so don't call me MAGA) don't have any understand of a) how hard it is to effectively run the giant bureaucracy that is NYC, and b) how important making nice to the business and real estate community is to funding all of your pet projects - money doesn't grow on trees and raising taxes on the rich, while not an awful idea, will not solve all problems.

People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have. And no, I do not think he was perfect - he made plenty of mistakes. But he was still very good. I thought deBlasio was generally really bad, but give him a lot of credit for universal pre-k. It is very simplistic to view someone as all good or all bad and solely harp on one side of the ledger.

I’m going to call you out on this. Every time someone says this it usually means they are a wealthier voter who doesn’t think there should be much, if any, social safety nets for anyone but themselves… they’re fine with bailing out big banks and tax breaks for big business and large real estate developers, and in my anecdotal world, many of the people I know who say things like this are themselves the children of police, teachers and other unionized employees- but they want to pull the ladder up behind them, although they never say that, they just claim that others don’t ’understand the real world’ like they do. Many of them also don’t seem to have much issue supporting and funding countries like Israel who have the sort of social supports they claim are not ‘possible in the real world’ in the US. Funny how that works

Not PP: I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I'm not a huge fan of Bloomberg. However, as the years have progressed, I have a better understanding of why he did what he did because 1. so much of NYC governance happens in Albany and 2. the intransigence of the large city government bureaucracies. So yes People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have.

No one immediately hated on Bloomberg. But again, wanting to create an environment where all socioeconomic classes can live does not denote not understanding the ‘real world’. I’ve found that people who say reference that trope are often clueless themselves, other than instinctively wanting to protect what they have over the needs of their community, even as they themselves often benefited from similar supports. Ex, many of us parents went to- and benefited from - gen Ed public schools, whether in NY or elsewhere. But you’ll see a lot of these same parents screaming about Mamdani saying he’d restrict gifted and talented testing at the pre K and level.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Yep, you'll get the free stuff you want in the short term as the city turns into San Francisco in no time. Great.

Do you realize that the crime rate has been dropping in SF and that both NYC and SF have murder rates that are significantly lower than Rep led cities/states like Gulfport Mississippi ?

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for Mamdani and very excited to do it. Have followed him since 2024 when he was at 6% (!) and loved his platform, ideas, and moral clarity. Never thought he'd make it past the primary and am so proud of the NYC'ers that voted for him.

Media coverage has been incredibly biased with racist undertones, as have been local moms FB groups. Some of the posts and comments are unhinged.

Leaving foreign policy aside, it's funny how much harm the media does in not explaining the difference between a democrat socialist (Mamdani) vs. a communist. But am sure that's their intention.

Examples?

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Anonymous wrote:Stuyvesant grad living in MD, trying to convince my parents in Brooklyn to vote for Mamdani.

Lawyer in NYC. My entire family is voting for him!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Bloomberg grew and ran a gigantic, complex organization. That is a very relevant transferable skill to being mayor and a skill that Mamdani lacks and will become very obvious very quickly. He was the best mayor this city has had in ages (not to set the bar too low). The city would have collapsed during the financial crisis if not for him. All of the super progressives (and I am a left of center Democrat so don't call me MAGA) don't have any understand of a) how hard it is to effectively run the giant bureaucracy that is NYC, and b) how important making nice to the business and real estate community is to funding all of your pet projects - money doesn't grow on trees and raising taxes on the rich, while not an awful idea, will not solve all problems.

People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have. And no, I do not think he was perfect - he made plenty of mistakes. But he was still very good. I thought deBlasio was generally really bad, but give him a lot of credit for universal pre-k. It is very simplistic to view someone as all good or all bad and solely harp on one side of the ledger.

I’m going to call you out on this. Every time someone says this it usually means they are a wealthier voter who doesn’t think there should be much, if any, social safety nets for anyone but themselves… they’re fine with bailing out big banks and tax breaks for big business and large real estate developers, and in my anecdotal world, many of the people I know who say things like this are themselves the children of police, teachers and other unionized employees- but they want to pull the ladder up behind them, although they never say that, they just claim that others don’t ’understand the real world’ like they do. Many of them also don’t seem to have much issue supporting and funding countries like Israel who have the sort of social supports they claim are not ‘possible in the real world’ in the US. Funny how that works

Not PP: I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I'm not a huge fan of Bloomberg. However, as the years have progressed, I have a better understanding of why he did what he did because 1. so much of NYC governance happens in Albany and 2. the intransigence of the large city government bureaucracies. So yes People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have.

No one immediately hated on Bloomberg. But again, wanting to create an environment where all socioeconomic classes can live does not denote not understanding the ‘real world’. I’ve found that people who say reference that trope are often clueless themselves, other than instinctively wanting to protect what they have over the needs of their community, even as they themselves often benefited from similar supports. Ex, many of us parents went to- and benefited from - gen Ed public schools, whether in NY or elsewhere. But you’ll see a lot of these same parents screaming about Mamdani saying he’d restrict gifted and talented testing at the pre K and level.

Of course...it's those uppity G&T parents! If we just got rid of G&T, we'd be living in utopia! Project much?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Bloomberg grew and ran a gigantic, complex organization. That is a very relevant transferable skill to being mayor and a skill that Mamdani lacks and will become very obvious very quickly. He was the best mayor this city has had in ages (not to set the bar too low). The city would have collapsed during the financial crisis if not for him. All of the super progressives (and I am a left of center Democrat so don't call me MAGA) don't have any understand of a) how hard it is to effectively run the giant bureaucracy that is NYC, and b) how important making nice to the business and real estate community is to funding all of your pet projects - money doesn't grow on trees and raising taxes on the rich, while not an awful idea, will not solve all problems.

People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have. And no, I do not think he was perfect - he made plenty of mistakes. But he was still very good. I thought deBlasio was generally really bad, but give him a lot of credit for universal pre-k. It is very simplistic to view someone as all good or all bad and solely harp on one side of the ledger.

I’m going to call you out on this. Every time someone says this it usually means they are a wealthier voter who doesn’t think there should be much, if any, social safety nets for anyone but themselves… they’re fine with bailing out big banks and tax breaks for big business and large real estate developers, and in my anecdotal world, many of the people I know who say things like this are themselves the children of police, teachers and other unionized employees- but they want to pull the ladder up behind them, although they never say that, they just claim that others don’t ’understand the real world’ like they do. Many of them also don’t seem to have much issue supporting and funding countries like Israel who have the sort of social supports they claim are not ‘possible in the real world’ in the US. Funny how that works

Not PP: I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I'm not a huge fan of Bloomberg. However, as the years have progressed, I have a better understanding of why he did what he did because 1. so much of NYC governance happens in Albany and 2. the intransigence of the large city government bureaucracies. So yes People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have.

No one immediately hated on Bloomberg. But again, wanting to create an environment where all socioeconomic classes can live does not denote not understanding the ‘real world’. I’ve found that people who say reference that trope are often clueless themselves, other than instinctively wanting to protect what they have over the needs of their community, even as they themselves often benefited from similar supports. Ex, many of us parents went to- and benefited from - gen Ed public schools, whether in NY or elsewhere. But you’ll see a lot of these same parents screaming about Mamdani saying he’d restrict gifted and talented testing at the pre K and level.

Of course...it's those uppity G&T parents! If we just got rid of G&T, we'd be living in utopia! Project much?

No idea what you mean but it was one example of an issue. People who benefited from policies themselves, often not even really remembering it, who now call those policies insane and unfair.

Many of us benefited from being raised during a time when our parents- (workers) had more protections- unions, pensions etc. Yet many of these same people blindly accept the dismantling of these protections.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Bloomberg grew and ran a gigantic, complex organization. That is a very relevant transferable skill to being mayor and a skill that Mamdani lacks and will become very obvious very quickly. He was the best mayor this city has had in ages (not to set the bar too low). The city would have collapsed during the financial crisis if not for him. All of the super progressives (and I am a left of center Democrat so don't call me MAGA) don't have any understand of a) how hard it is to effectively run the giant bureaucracy that is NYC, and b) how important making nice to the business and real estate community is to funding all of your pet projects - money doesn't grow on trees and raising taxes on the rich, while not an awful idea, will not solve all problems.

People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have. And no, I do not think he was perfect - he made plenty of mistakes. But he was still very good. I thought deBlasio was generally really bad, but give him a lot of credit for universal pre-k. It is very simplistic to view someone as all good or all bad and solely harp on one side of the ledger.

I’m going to call you out on this. Every time someone says this it usually means they are a wealthier voter who doesn’t think there should be much, if any, social safety nets for anyone but themselves… they’re fine with bailing out big banks and tax breaks for big business and large real estate developers, and in my anecdotal world, many of the people I know who say things like this are themselves the children of police, teachers and other unionized employees- but they want to pull the ladder up behind them, although they never say that, they just claim that others don’t ’understand the real world’ like they do. Many of them also don’t seem to have much issue supporting and funding countries like Israel who have the sort of social supports they claim are not ‘possible in the real world’ in the US. Funny how that works

Not PP: I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I'm not a huge fan of Bloomberg. However, as the years have progressed, I have a better understanding of why he did what he did because 1. so much of NYC governance happens in Albany and 2. the intransigence of the large city government bureaucracies. So yes People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have.

No one immediately hated on Bloomberg. But again, wanting to create an environment where all socioeconomic classes can live does not denote not understanding the ‘real world’. I’ve found that people who say reference that trope are often clueless themselves, other than instinctively wanting to protect what they have over the needs of their community, even as they themselves often benefited from similar supports. Ex, many of us parents went to- and benefited from - gen Ed public schools, whether in NY or elsewhere. But you’ll see a lot of these same parents screaming about Mamdani saying he’d restrict gifted and talented testing at the pre K and level.

Of course...it's those uppity G&T parents! If we just got rid of G&T, we'd be living in utopia! Project much?

No idea what you mean but it was one example of an issue. People who benefited from policies themselves, often not even really remembering it, who now call those policies insane and unfair.

Many of us benefited from being raised during a time when our parents- (workers) had more protections- unions, pensions etc. Yet many of these same people blindly accept the dismantling of these protections.

It was the example that you went to first. If it was one example, you could have used another but you didn't. You're making a lot of assumptions about people you don't know which basically amounts to ad hominem attacks.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Bloomberg grew and ran a gigantic, complex organization. That is a very relevant transferable skill to being mayor and a skill that Mamdani lacks and will become very obvious very quickly. He was the best mayor this city has had in ages (not to set the bar too low). The city would have collapsed during the financial crisis if not for him. All of the super progressives (and I am a left of center Democrat so don't call me MAGA) don't have any understand of a) how hard it is to effectively run the giant bureaucracy that is NYC, and b) how important making nice to the business and real estate community is to funding all of your pet projects - money doesn't grow on trees and raising taxes on the rich, while not an awful idea, will not solve all problems.

People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have. And no, I do not think he was perfect - he made plenty of mistakes. But he was still very good. I thought deBlasio was generally really bad, but give him a lot of credit for universal pre-k. It is very simplistic to view someone as all good or all bad and solely harp on one side of the ledger.

I’m going to call you out on this. Every time someone says this it usually means they are a wealthier voter who doesn’t think there should be much, if any, social safety nets for anyone but themselves… they’re fine with bailing out big banks and tax breaks for big business and large real estate developers, and in my anecdotal world, many of the people I know who say things like this are themselves the children of police, teachers and other unionized employees- but they want to pull the ladder up behind them, although they never say that, they just claim that others don’t ’understand the real world’ like they do. Many of them also don’t seem to have much issue supporting and funding countries like Israel who have the sort of social supports they claim are not ‘possible in the real world’ in the US. Funny how that works

Not PP: I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I'm not a huge fan of Bloomberg. However, as the years have progressed, I have a better understanding of why he did what he did because 1. so much of NYC governance happens in Albany and 2. the intransigence of the large city government bureaucracies. So yes People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have.

No one immediately hated on Bloomberg. But again, wanting to create an environment where all socioeconomic classes can live does not denote not understanding the ‘real world’. I’ve found that people who say reference that trope are often clueless themselves, other than instinctively wanting to protect what they have over the needs of their community, even as they themselves often benefited from similar supports. Ex, many of us parents went to- and benefited from - gen Ed public schools, whether in NY or elsewhere. But you’ll see a lot of these same parents screaming about Mamdani saying he’d restrict gifted and talented testing at the pre K and level.

Of course...it's those uppity G&T parents! If we just got rid of G&T, we'd be living in utopia! Project much?

No idea what you mean but it was one example of an issue. People who benefited from policies themselves, often not even really remembering it, who now call those policies insane and unfair.

Many of us benefited from being raised during a time when our parents- (workers) had more protections- unions, pensions etc. Yet many of these same people blindly accept the dismantling of these protections.

It was the example that you went to first. If it was one example, you could have used another but you didn't. You're making a lot of assumptions about people you don't know which basically amounts to ad hominem attacks.

Not sure you know what ad hominem means but I’ll leave it at that. You just want to fight and are likely a troll. Or low intellect

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Anonymous wrote:I'm excited for Mamdami. Time for real change.

Who is Mamdami and what are they running for? Think they can beat Mamdani?

I have been hearing that Trump is chomping at the bit to unleash a ton of his fury on NYC if/when Mamdani is elected. It will make Chicago and Portland look like child's play. I despise Trump and I think this childishness is horrible. And I'm not saying this is necessarily a reason to vote against Mamdani, particularly given the alternative. Just throwing it out there.

Ok. At what point are we really going to stand up to an authoritarian regime?

Great question. I agree. I am tired of people rolling over for this clown. I don't like Mamdani but I agree that one should not vote based on fear of what Trump will do to him. But is Mamdani the guy to do it just from the general perspective of does he have the experience, gravitas and cleverness to handle it? This is not totally a knock at him - I'm not sure who does fit that bill. But I likely would prefer someone with more professional experience (I wish Bloomberg was running). The whole situation just stinks.

Lol. I’ll remind everyone that Bloomberg had no political experience when he ran for mayor. He greatly increased wealth disparity in NY and we are still dealing with it now. He also dismissed the opinions of teachers and parent groups, and appointed an education chancellor who had zero experience in education.
He also targeted Muslims as ‘terrorists’. He was an obnoxious billionaire and his presidential run showed how unpopular he is.

Whatever you want to say about Mamdani, he is a gifted politician and he isn’t beholden to the billionaire class. To me, that’s worthy of a vote.

Bloomberg grew and ran a gigantic, complex organization. That is a very relevant transferable skill to being mayor and a skill that Mamdani lacks and will become very obvious very quickly. He was the best mayor this city has had in ages (not to set the bar too low). The city would have collapsed during the financial crisis if not for him. All of the super progressives (and I am a left of center Democrat so don't call me MAGA) don't have any understand of a) how hard it is to effectively run the giant bureaucracy that is NYC, and b) how important making nice to the business and real estate community is to funding all of your pet projects - money doesn't grow on trees and raising taxes on the rich, while not an awful idea, will not solve all problems.

People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have. And no, I do not think he was perfect - he made plenty of mistakes. But he was still very good. I thought deBlasio was generally really bad, but give him a lot of credit for universal pre-k. It is very simplistic to view someone as all good or all bad and solely harp on one side of the ledger.

I’m going to call you out on this. Every time someone says this it usually means they are a wealthier voter who doesn’t think there should be much, if any, social safety nets for anyone but themselves… they’re fine with bailing out big banks and tax breaks for big business and large real estate developers, and in my anecdotal world, many of the people I know who say things like this are themselves the children of police, teachers and other unionized employees- but they want to pull the ladder up behind them, although they never say that, they just claim that others don’t ’understand the real world’ like they do. Many of them also don’t seem to have much issue supporting and funding countries like Israel who have the sort of social supports they claim are not ‘possible in the real world’ in the US. Funny how that works

Not PP: I'm going to have to disagree with you on this. I'm not a huge fan of Bloomberg. However, as the years have progressed, I have a better understanding of why he did what he did because 1. so much of NYC governance happens in Albany and 2. the intransigence of the large city government bureaucracies. So yes People who immediately hate on Bloomberg just show how little understanding of the real world they have.

No one immediately hated on Bloomberg. But again, wanting to create an environment where all socioeconomic classes can live does not denote not understanding the ‘real world’. I’ve found that people who say reference that trope are often clueless themselves, other than instinctively wanting to protect what they have over the needs of their community, even as they themselves often benefited from similar supports. Ex, many of us parents went to- and benefited from - gen Ed public schools, whether in NY or elsewhere. But you’ll see a lot of these same parents screaming about Mamdani saying he’d restrict gifted and talented testing at the pre K and level.

Of course...it's those uppity G&T parents! If we just got rid of G&T, we'd be living in utopia! Project much?

No idea what you mean but it was one example of an issue. People who benefited from policies themselves, often not even really remembering it, who now call those policies insane and unfair.

Many of us benefited from being raised during a time when our parents- (workers) had more protections- unions, pensions etc. Yet many of these same people blindly accept the dismantling of these protections.

It was the example that you went to first. If it was one example, you could have used another but you didn't. You're making a lot of assumptions about people you don't know which basically amounts to ad hominem attacks.

Not sure you know what ad hominem means but I’ll leave it at that. You just want to fight and are likely a troll. Or low intellect

Speak for yourself, projector.