Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

Long story short, it is the right of American citizens to protest, if it doesn’t suit a certain narrative then it’s not their problem. If these kids want to protest, then they have every right to do so, there is a big Zionist lobby that has tried to control every opinion and aspect of this conflict since 10/7 and anyone not agreeing with Israel is promptly labeled antisemitic. Frankly, it’s nauseating.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any see the video of the pro Israel protesters spitting and get violent?

There are no names have been identified so far. Are you sure those people are pro-Israel protesters and not staged actors?

They identified one pro Israel protester causing problems and I’m sure there are trouble makers causing problems for both sides.

[Anonymous]

Glenn Youngkin's got a helluva set of cajones on him. Not even Greg Abbott has had the gumption to break out the tear gas yet.

https://twitter.com/jahdkhalil/status/1785108085964521727

https://twitter.com/goadgatsby/status/1785112806980747488

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Long story short, it is the right of American citizens to protest, if it doesn’t suit a certain narrative then it’s not their problem. If these kids want to protest, then they have every right to do so, there is a big Zionist lobby that has tried to control every opinion and aspect of this conflict since 10/7 and anyone not agreeing with Israel is promptly labeled antisemitic. Frankly, it’s nauseating.

It is their right. But their pro-Hamas protests win no hearts or minds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The United Nations warns it could take 14 years to clean up the rubble that was once Gaza. 14 years. Mind, that number is conservative if you take into consideration the fact that Israel won’t allow the necessary heavy equipment in to do it. According to US defense secretary, over 25,000 women and children have been killed in Gaza. Gaza is gone. A genocide has happened and there are people out there who refuse to see it. In what world do people exist where this is ok? And where people who protest against this are called spoiled brats and terrorists supporters. Really?

There are 2 million people in Gaza. You can protest the conflict there, but don't be inaccurate.

What is inaccurate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do these Hamas protestors let Jews into their protests, or is there a two-state solution for protestors?

They do, but I don’t think the Jewish or LGBTQ protestors understand that the people they are defending wouldn’t even have them over for dinner.

My kid absolutely does. But for her, that doesn’t matter. She demands, based on our faith, that all are treated according to our principles. As an example, it is harder to argue against the death penalty if you are faced with a man who has raped and murdered a young mom in front of her traumatized children. But if you do not believe the state has a right to take a citizen’s life as a punishment, then the nature of the crime doesn’t matter. It isn’t easy to live.

Oh, then your kid must have been absolutely horrified by the atrocities committed on Oct. 7! Did she speak out then? No? Why not?
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Because she is American and is protesting her government primarily. She actually really liked the president’s responses post 10/7. She thought he did a good job in reaching out to Jewish Americans as well as the Israelis to express support. She has no issues (she has told me) with the US funding Iron Dome. But given the poor (in her opinion) way that Israel is prosecuting this war, with absolute lack of care for civilians, she wants the US to step back and stop funds transfer to the Israel. And especially the sale of any offensive weapons.

I think what Israel lost with my daughter and many of her friends is the benefit of the doubt. I think prior to this war, she more or less thought “the ME is messed up. The poor Israelis who have to deal with all the violence.” Now she doesn’t believe that either side is capable of speaking without a heavy dose of propaganda, and she thinks that Palestinians have been poorly treated.

If she were to look at Israel and Palestinian conflicts of the previous recent years, she would have more nuance. But she wasn't been paying attention then. So for her, it didn't happen. And so she disapproves of Israel.

You could give her a bit of guidance and show her the many times that Palestinians sent rockets into Israel - and she could imagine how that would make her feel and react.

Did those rockets kill 35000 women and children??? Asking, just for nuance and context.

it’s almost like Hamas should give up the hostages and agree to a ceasefire.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long story short, it is the right of American citizens to protest, if it doesn’t suit a certain narrative then it’s not their problem. If these kids want to protest, then they have every right to do so, there is a big Zionist lobby that has tried to control every opinion and aspect of this conflict since 10/7 and anyone not agreeing with Israel is promptly labeled antisemitic. Frankly, it’s nauseating.

It is their right. But their pro-Hamas protests win no hearts or minds.

You can keep saying that but if all the debates and threads about this haven’t shown you otherwise then you are living under a rock. There isn’t just one person calling out Israel on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

WaPo quoted a Palestinian American protestor who has been suspended from school. He said that he is poor and will not be able to afford it to go back to school, but he feels, as a child of Palestinian parents living in the US, that he is powerless to make change, that he has survivor's guilt.

This is what he feels he needs to do with the opportunity he has/had living here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long story short, it is the right of American citizens to protest, if it doesn’t suit a certain narrative then it’s not their problem. If these kids want to protest, then they have every right to do so, there is a big Zionist lobby that has tried to control every opinion and aspect of this conflict since 10/7 and anyone not agreeing with Israel is promptly labeled antisemitic. Frankly, it’s nauseating.

It is their right. But their pro-Hamas protests win no hearts or minds.

You can keep saying that but if all the debates and threads about this haven’t shown you otherwise then you are living under a rock. There isn’t just one person calling out Israel on DCUM.

A recent poll found that among those under 30, support for Palestine is stronger than support for Israel. Among those over 30, support is overwhelmingly for Israel.

Now why would that be? What have we taught our young people about recent history and current events? Through what lens is every lesson currently taught in school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Long story short, it is the right of American citizens to protest, if it doesn’t suit a certain narrative then it’s not their problem. If these kids want to protest, then they have every right to do so, there is a big Zionist lobby that has tried to control every opinion and aspect of this conflict since 10/7 and anyone not agreeing with Israel is promptly labeled antisemitic. Frankly, it’s nauseating.

What's nauseating is when students think they have the right to disrupt a campus and not have to obey the school's administrators. Suspend them, and if they still won't comply, then expel them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WaPo quoted a Palestinian American protestor who has been suspended from school. He said that he is poor and will not be able to afford it to go back to school, but he feels, as a child of Palestinian parents living in the US, that he is powerless to make change, that he has survivor's guilt.

This is what he feels he needs to do with the opportunity he has/had living here.

Well well well if it isn't the consequences of our actions rearing their ugly head again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Long story short, it is the right of American citizens to protest, if it doesn’t suit a certain narrative then it’s not their problem. If these kids want to protest, then they have every right to do so, there is a big Zionist lobby that has tried to control every opinion and aspect of this conflict since 10/7 and anyone not agreeing with Israel is promptly labeled antisemitic. Frankly, it’s nauseating.

No One has the right to stop anyone else from going to class or otherwise going about their lives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WaPo quoted a Palestinian American protestor who has been suspended from school. He said that he is poor and will not be able to afford it to go back to school, but he feels, as a child of Palestinian parents living in the US, that he is powerless to make change, that he has survivor's guilt.

This is what he feels he needs to do with the opportunity he has/had living here.

Well well well if it isn't the consequences of our actions rearing their ugly head again.

It's showed him that freedom of speech isn't all it's cracked up to be in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WaPo quoted a Palestinian American protestor who has been suspended from school. He said that he is poor and will not be able to afford it to go back to school, but he feels, as a child of Palestinian parents living in the US, that he is powerless to make change, that he has survivor's guilt.

This is what he feels he needs to do with the opportunity he has/had living here.

Great! He did it!
Want fries with that burger, sir?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:WaPo quoted a Palestinian American protestor who has been suspended from school. He said that he is poor and will not be able to afford it to go back to school, but he feels, as a child of Palestinian parents living in the US, that he is powerless to make change, that he has survivor's guilt.

This is what he feels he needs to do with the opportunity he has/had living here.

Well well well if it isn't the consequences of our actions rearing their ugly head again.

It's showed him that freedom of speech isn't all it's cracked up to be in the US.

If that’s his takeaway he’s even stupider than I thought he was.