Immigration Bill

[Anonymous]

Senators Cotton and Perdue stood with the President to announce an immigration reform effort. They said the current immigration system doesn't let U.S. be competitive. Trump followed in the presser by bragging about stock market highs.

These people are morons.

[Anonymous]

I have a solution for immigration and North Korea rolled into one.

We bring 120 million Japanese and 50 million South Koreans to the us , deport 170 million of our dumbest, then use military strikes to take out nk (who don't have any targets to hit now assymetricallly)

Win win. We upgrade our human capital and get rid of a nuclear threat

[Anonymous]

I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

[Anonymous]

What am I missing? They now want to bring in more high skilled workers (which I agree with, BTW).

But, I thought we had spent the last year listening to how Trump was going to clamp down on H1B visa abuse, because our amazing American STEM grads couldn't find jobs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

I am the immigrant above and this all happened within the same race. Basically poor probably illiterate villagers were getting green cards while educated people knew they had no chance. I was only looking for a tourist visa and still didn't get it. American embassies are so arrogant and stupid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

I am the immigrant above and this all happened within the same race. Basically poor probably illiterate villagers were getting green cards while educated people knew they had no chance. I was only looking for a tourist visa and still didn't get it. American embassies are so arrogant and stupid.

If you were intelligent, you would understand why we should not choose people based on countries you think are high iQ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

I am the immigrant above and this all happened within the same race. Basically poor probably illiterate villagers were getting green cards while educated people knew they had no chance. I was only looking for a tourist visa and still didn't get it. American embassies are so arrogant and stupid.

You seem unhappy with American values. There's the door-- bye bye!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

I am the immigrant above and this all happened within the same race. Basically poor probably illiterate villagers were getting green cards while educated people knew they had no chance. I was only looking for a tourist visa and still didn't get it. American embassies are so arrogant and stupid.

If you were intelligent, you would understand why we should not choose people based on countries you think are high iQ.

i am profoundly gifted thx. i didn't say the people should be chosen based on country of origin. and that's not in the bill either, as i understand it.

i am merely providing my perspective from the other side. every smart, educated person who wanted to immigrate (which i didn't) went to canada embassy. those who were rejected there went to australia and NZ. nobody even tried to get a green card for the US because that was impossible if you had no family connections (no matter how remote) in the US. some smart people still managed to stay in the US mostly by going to phd programs and then getting jobs/getting employer sponsorship. but basically there was no route to legally immigrate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

I am the immigrant above and this all happened within the same race. Basically poor probably illiterate villagers were getting green cards while educated people knew they had no chance. I was only looking for a tourist visa and still didn't get it. American embassies are so arrogant and stupid.

You seem unhappy with American values. There's the door-- bye bye!!

heh... technically, am as american as you are. my values are american values. perhaps you would like to leave?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

I am the immigrant above and this all happened within the same race. Basically poor probably illiterate villagers were getting green cards while educated people knew they had no chance. I was only looking for a tourist visa and still didn't get it. American embassies are so arrogant and stupid.

If you were intelligent, you would understand why we should not choose people based on countries you think are high iQ.

i am profoundly gifted thx. i didn't say the people should be chosen based on country of origin. and that's not in the bill either, as i understand it.

i am merely providing my perspective from the other side. every smart, educated person who wanted to immigrate (which i didn't) went to canada embassy. those who were rejected there went to australia and NZ. nobody even tried to get a green card for the US because that was impossible if you had no family connections (no matter how remote) in the US. some smart people still managed to stay in the US mostly by going to phd programs and then getting jobs/getting employer sponsorship. but basically there was no route to legally immigrate.

I think this brings up a really good point: why are we allowing immigration via family connections? It's pretty absurd to let a person and his entire family immigrate simply because they already have one sibling in the United States who sponsors them. It's a completely illogical way of running an immigration system.

I'm on board with moving to a point system for individuals with good educations, technical skills, or badly needed language abilities. I'm also totally open to allowing more refugees or those facing persecution (religious, gender, LBGT, etc).

But the family-based system is nuts. No way in hell is one brother already in the US able to support all his siblings, their kids, and parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What am I missing? They now want to bring in more high skilled workers (which I agree with, BTW).

. . .

In other words, Trump wants to model our immigration laws on those of Canada.

Explain why you hate Canada.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant and I remember being shocked at what kind of people in the waiting room at the uS embassy were getttong green cards. Like the most backward looking. Meanwhile i was rejected for a tourist visa though I had no intention whatsoever of staying.

I happened to win a green card lottery so eventually I came in. But I never would have otherwise.

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

You realize that there is far more variation in iQ within races than between them.

Wait of course you don't, which proves the point.

I am the immigrant above and this all happened within the same race. Basically poor probably illiterate villagers were getting green cards while educated people knew they had no chance. I was only looking for a tourist visa and still didn't get it. American embassies are so arrogant and stupid.

If you were intelligent, you would understand why we should not choose people based on countries you think are high iQ.

i am profoundly gifted thx. i didn't say the people should be chosen based on country of origin. and that's not in the bill either, as i understand it.

i am merely providing my perspective from the other side. every smart, educated person who wanted to immigrate (which i didn't) went to canada embassy. those who were rejected there went to australia and NZ. nobody even tried to get a green card for the US because that was impossible if you had no family connections (no matter how remote) in the US. some smart people still managed to stay in the US mostly by going to phd programs and then getting jobs/getting employer sponsorship. but basically there was no route to legally immigrate.

I think this brings up a really good point: why are we allowing immigration via family connections? It's pretty absurd to let a person and his entire family immigrate simply because they already have one sibling in the United States who sponsors them. It's a completely illogical way of running an immigration system.

I'm on board with moving to a point system for individuals with good educations, technical skills, or badly needed language abilities. I'm also totally open to allowing more refugees or those facing persecution (religious, gender, LBGT, etc).

But the family-based system is nuts. No way in hell is one brother already in the US able to support all his siblings, their kids, and parents.

what we have here is a clan-based system not family based one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

As a liberal, when you bring this up - the Latino groups hammer you.

They are fully against Australian/Canadian type systems.

We should be bringing in more Japanese, Koreans, Jews, high IQ northwest Europeans.

Not the dregs

Why would any of these folks who aren't already here, want to come?

What happened to

“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”