Would you leave a fed job?

Anonymous
I have a secure federal job, after 14 years I make $158k and always imagined I'd stay until retirement. One of our contractors just asked me if I'd consider doing virtually the same job for them for over $200kthough in guessing the benefits aren't as good and the company is smaller and less secure. Would you consider leaving federal employment under these circumstances?
Anonymous
A 40k raise before taxes. Let's call that a 25k raise after taxes. You also miss out on your pension contributions each year going forward, that's difficult to value but probably something like $8k per year at your level. So now it's effectively a $17k raise. You may also lose out on a 401k match (most private employers don't offer this). That's another $8k per year at your income. Now it's effectively a $9k raise.

No way in hell I'd move to a less secure position (with presumably less liberal leave policies as well) for an additional $9k per year. (And I didn't even consider health insurance costs or other benefits that government employment has).

I've made some assumptions here, so you should re-run the numbers for your specific situation, with all the information that you know that we don't. But, this was for illustration purposes -- make sure that you know the true value of the raise, not the nominal value of $200k minus $158k.
Anonymous
I'd definitely leave for more money and did just that. Worked out great for me.
Anonymous
Job security is pretty important to us, so I probably wouldn't.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A 40k raise before taxes. Let's call that a 25k raise after taxes. You also miss out on your pension contributions each year going forward, that's difficult to value but probably something like $8k per year at your level. So now it's effectively a $17k raise. You may also lose out on a 401k match (most private employers don't offer this). That's another $8k per year at your income. Now it's effectively a $9k raise.

No way in hell I'd move to a less secure position (with presumably less liberal leave policies as well) for an additional $9k per year. (And I didn't even consider health insurance costs or other benefits that government employment has).

I've made some assumptions here, so you should re-run the numbers for your specific situation, with all the information that you know that we don't. But, this was for illustration purposes -- make sure that you know the true value of the raise, not the nominal value of $200k minus $158k.
+1. I'd run the numbers then weigh that against the risk of being a contractor and leaving a fed job when you likely won't be able to get back in for several years.
Anonymous
It depends on whether the exit options are better in the long run for the contractor position, which i doubt exists. I'm a fed attorney pretty early in my career (GS12 with a ladder to GS15) and I wouldn't even consider trading for a Biglaw job unless it's 2 times my current pay. Heck...I might not even want to take that job if it's offered and gift-wrapped with a bow on top...
Anonymous
No, I would not.
Anonymous
It also depends if your spouse works and what the combined income is. If you take a risk and then get laid off next year, how screwed would you be?
Anonymous
No way. DH did 15 years ago and we've never quite recovered. I would stay put.
Anonymous
Another year, op will get 8 hrs of annual too!! Crazy or stupid, idk.
Anonymous
I would not do it. Less stability. Little gain. Less flexibility.
Anonymous
If I were still in my 20s yes but otherwise nope.
Anonymous
Only if your spouse is a fed. If one of you is a fed and can carry all the insurances, then it might make some sense.

I'm 26 years in and two years away from full retirement. A contractor pitched me, and I gave them the "are you kidding me?" look. My kids are still in elementary so I like job security for now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a secure federal job, after 14 years I make $158k and always imagined I'd stay until retirement. One of our contractors just asked me if I'd consider doing virtually the same job for them for over $200kthough in guessing the benefits aren't as good and the company is smaller and less secure. Would you consider leaving federal employment under these circumstances?


Yes, but i job hop every ~3 years and make 280k now. My employer not only offers a 10k 401k match, but I get an ESPP (15% discount) and I have RSUs. On RSUs ALONE i have nearly 300k in options from prior and current employer. Think I had to go in today? Nope. Deosnt get taken from ky PTO because that is unlimited. But what do I care? 7k was just DD into my checking for 2 weeks of work.

I cannot imagine making 158k/yr and the cieling not being much higher. However clearly my risk tolerance is MUCH higher than yours, i prefer high risk, high reward. I want more out of life that the basics. So of course i would take it. No brainer.

Between DH and I we contribute 53k to 401k and 11k to IRAs.
Anonymous
No I wouldn't.
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