Second round options for Woodward boundary study

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

WJ taxpayers did not fund even half of Woodward, get over yourself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

Wj doesn’t pay more taxes. You pay what your house is worth. Dcc gets very little. Our kids cannot be as successful because of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

yah the point here is there are way more million dollar houses zoned for WJ than the whole DCC combined x2. 2million in the DCC?!? It might have happened on some unicorn of a property but that’s not a thing unless you’re talking cheap apt buildings, then yes there are lots of those. Look it this way all the families on or previously on FARMs (which is most of them most) likely don’t pay any property tax

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So how do the people newly zoned for Woodward feel? Is it about right? Which options are preferable?

WJ FAMS goes down in most potions.

Poverty will be concentrated in Woodward. Woodward will have around twice the FARMS rate of WJ.

Not a good outcome but better than earlier proposed options.

Under the current options, the FARMS rate at Woodward will be in the same ballpark as BCC, only being a tad higher. The original options all had Woodward with much higher FARMS rates, but current options only put Woodward at 27 to 31% FARMS. Also keep in mind, this isn’t factoring in the amount of parents currently zoned to DCC schools who would bring their kids back to public after being rezoned to Woodward, which would likely depress the projected FARMS rate at Woodward even more. The disparity between both WJ & Woodward and DCC schools is going to be much more significant.

What did DCC parents think like in the poorer areas would entail? They are ok being your neighbors but you want to buses their kids away from yours?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So how do the people newly zoned for Woodward feel? Is it about right? Which options are preferable?

WJ FAMS goes down in most potions.

Poverty will be concentrated in Woodward. Woodward will have around twice the FARMS rate of WJ.

Not a good outcome but better than earlier proposed options.

Under the current options, the FARMS rate at Woodward will be in the same ballpark as BCC, only being a tad higher. The original options all had Woodward with much higher FARMS rates, but current options only put Woodward at 27 to 31% FARMS. Also keep in mind, this isn’t factoring in the amount of parents currently zoned to DCC schools who would bring their kids back to public after being rezoned to Woodward, which would likely depress the projected FARMS rate at Woodward even more. The disparity between both WJ & Woodward and DCC schools is going to be much more significant.

What did DCC parents think like in the poorer areas would entail? They are ok being your neighbors but you want to buses their kids away from yours?

Nobody has proposed or advocated for bussing all or even the majority of low income kids out of the DCC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

yah the point here is there are way more million dollar houses zoned for WJ than the whole DCC combined x2. 2million in the DCC?!? It might have happened on some unicorn of a property but that’s not a thing unless you’re talking cheap apt buildings, then yes there are lots of those. Look it this way all the families on or previously on FARMs (which is most of them most) likely don’t pay any property tax

Clearly you don’t know the dcc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

yah the point here is there are way more million dollar houses zoned for WJ than the whole DCC combined x2. 2million in the DCC?!? It might have happened on some unicorn of a property but that’s not a thing unless you’re talking cheap apt buildings, then yes there are lots of those. Look it this way all the families on or previously on FARMs (which is most of them most) likely don’t pay any property tax

Clearly you don’t know the dcc.

are you actually suggesting that the dcc has higher property values on average than the WJ catchment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

yah the point here is there are way more million dollar houses zoned for WJ than the whole DCC combined x2. 2million in the DCC?!? It might have happened on some unicorn of a property but that’s not a thing unless you’re talking cheap apt buildings, then yes there are lots of those. Look it this way all the families on or previously on FARMs (which is most of them most) likely don’t pay any property tax

Of course they pay property taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

yah the point here is there are way more million dollar houses zoned for WJ than the whole DCC combined x2. 2million in the DCC?!? It might have happened on some unicorn of a property but that’s not a thing unless you’re talking cheap apt buildings, then yes there are lots of those. Look it this way all the families on or previously on FARMs (which is most of them most) likely don’t pay any property tax

Clearly you don’t know the dcc.

are you actually suggesting that the dcc has higher property values on average than the WJ catchment?

DP

DCC has 10,000 HS students. WJ has 3,000. I guarantee you DCC paid just as much in property taxes toward Woodward as WJ did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

yah the point here is there are way more million dollar houses zoned for WJ than the whole DCC combined x2. 2million in the DCC?!? It might have happened on some unicorn of a property but that’s not a thing unless you’re talking cheap apt buildings, then yes there are lots of those. Look it this way all the families on or previously on FARMs (which is most of them most) likely don’t pay any property tax

Clearly you don’t know the dcc.

are you actually suggesting that the dcc has higher property values on average than the WJ catchment?

DP

DCC has 10,000 HS students. WJ has 3,000. I guarantee you DCC paid just as much in property taxes toward Woodward as WJ did.

do you understand the concept of 'average'?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

yah the point here is there are way more million dollar houses zoned for WJ than the whole DCC combined x2. 2million in the DCC?!? It might have happened on some unicorn of a property but that’s not a thing unless you’re talking cheap apt buildings, then yes there are lots of those. Look it this way all the families on or previously on FARMs (which is most of them most) likely don’t pay any property tax

Clearly you don’t know the dcc.

are you actually suggesting that the dcc has higher property values on average than the WJ catchment?

DP

DCC has 10,000 HS students. WJ has 3,000. I guarantee you DCC paid just as much in property taxes toward Woodward as WJ did.

do you understand the concept of 'average'?

From the PP above:

Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes

Do you understand that we are discussing which school cluster paid more in taxes? You don't get to take tax dollars from middle class people (yes, renters pay property taxes through their rent, there are mountains of research on this) to keep for your greedy self simply because you have a more expensive house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

A million dollar house in WJ pays the same taxes as one in the DCC. A 2 million dollar house in the DCC pays more than a million dollar house in WJ. Yet WJ has more.

yah the point here is there are way more million dollar houses zoned for WJ than the whole DCC combined x2. 2million in the DCC?!? It might have happened on some unicorn of a property but that’s not a thing unless you’re talking cheap apt buildings, then yes there are lots of those. Look it this way all the families on or previously on FARMs (which is most of them most) likely don’t pay any property tax

Clearly you don’t know the dcc.

are you actually suggesting that the dcc has higher property values on average than the WJ catchment?

DP

DCC has 10,000 HS students. WJ has 3,000. I guarantee you DCC paid just as much in property taxes toward Woodward as WJ did.

do you understand the concept of 'average'?

From the PP above:

Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes

Do you understand that we are discussing which school cluster paid more in taxes? You don't get to take tax dollars from middle class people (yes, renters pay property taxes through their rent, there are mountains of research on this) to keep for your greedy self simply because you have a more expensive house.

Apartments pay more in property taxes than a large property as there are more units.

[Anonymous]

Note there are also higher tax rates for the Bethesda, Wheaton and Silver Spring Urban Districts where there are, you guessed it, lots of apartments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Option B is the Best. Res Ipsa Loquitur. B = Best

The best for whom? Not for taxpayers.

Sure it is. Those in the Option B zone for WJ certainly pay more taxes and dealt with over crowded WJ for decades+. Time to alleviate it. And more development coming under master plan. DCC pay less and get more

WJ taxpayers did not fund even half of Woodward, get over yourself

Pay more in property and income tax than DCC.