Why are we focusing on boosters instead of the unvaccinated?

[Anonymous]

Because the government wants to keep things open so that's all we have. They went on the attack of the unvaccinated. They have a lot of breakthrough cases they are not telling us about so now the only option is boosters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am unvaccinated but have already had covid. My blood is still showing antibodies, 9 months later. Pretty sure I don't need a vaccine.

One single dose of the vaccine can increase your antibodies by up to 1000-fold compared to your antibody levels after recovery from COVID. In short, the vaccine will provide you a lot more protection than what your body would naturally produce on its own post-infection.

Get the damn shot.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-vaccines-help-covid-infected-already-pandemic

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am unvaccinated but have already had covid. My blood is still showing antibodies, 9 months later. Pretty sure I don't need a vaccine.

One single dose of the vaccine can increase your antibodies by up to 1000-fold compared to your antibody levels after recovery from COVID. In short, the vaccine will provide you a lot more protection than what your body would naturally produce on its own post-infection.

Get the damn shot.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-vaccines-help-covid-infected-already-pandemic

If the vaccines worked like the cheerleaders say they do, you wouldn't be wearing a mask while waiting in line for your booster shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am unvaccinated but have already had covid. My blood is still showing antibodies, 9 months later. Pretty sure I don't need a vaccine.

One single dose of the vaccine can increase your antibodies by up to 1000-fold compared to your antibody levels after recovery from COVID. In short, the vaccine will provide you a lot more protection than what your body would naturally produce on its own post-infection.

Get the damn shot.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-vaccines-help-covid-infected-already-pandemic

If the vaccines worked like the cheerleaders say they do, you wouldn't be wearing a mask while waiting in line for your booster shot.

The vaccine keeps me out of the hospital and prevents me from dying, it doesn't prevent me from getting sick. I'll take a vaccine + mild case over a 14 day trip to the hospital + a vent.

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Anonymous wrote:I am unvaccinated but have already had covid. My blood is still showing antibodies, 9 months later. Pretty sure I don't need a vaccine.

Those antibodies are only going to protect you against the strain of Covid you had. If you want protection from delta or any other strain, you need a vaccine.

+1. Friend of mine has now had covid twice. Second time around she had worse symptoms.

Sure.

All I know is, my antibodies are still present, 9 months later. My fully vaccinated aunt no longer has any antibodies. People say the vaccine is better but something isn’t adding up.

I know someone who had covid in May and was pretty sick, but now has it again and is in the ICU. Only 52 years old. That’s proof that prior covid does not protect against delta.

Antibody tests do not tell you what specific strain you have antibodies to.
Vaccines target the spike protein found on every strain, and only specific antibody tests that look for that will detect those antibodies.

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Anonymous wrote:I am unvaccinated but have already had covid. My blood is still showing antibodies, 9 months later. Pretty sure I don't need a vaccine.

One single dose of the vaccine can increase your antibodies by up to 1000-fold compared to your antibody levels after recovery from COVID. In short, the vaccine will provide you a lot more protection than what your body would naturally produce on its own post-infection.

Get the damn shot.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-vaccines-help-covid-infected-already-pandemic

If the vaccines worked like the cheerleaders say they do, you wouldn't be wearing a mask while waiting in line for your booster shot.

The vaccine keeps me out of the hospital and prevents me from dying, it doesn't prevent me from getting sick. I'll take a vaccine + mild case over a 14 day trip to the hospital + a vent.

Getting sick is part of normal life. If that's truly all the risk you face, why mask? Why isolate? Why distance? Why boost?

The vaccinated are not acting like all they face is the sniffles. That speaks volumes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m immunocompromised due to cancer. I fought to get two shots as quickly as I could. Then I got the bad news that my immune system didn’t respond. Getting the third shot could keep me from getting very ill or dying. I’m not taking a shot away from anyone in the US. We have plenty.

Honest question. Can you explain why immunocompromised folks would have a better result from a 3rd vaccine dose than from the first two doses? I've not seen this explained anywhere.

NP and I’m not a doctor so I don’t know. My mother is the same, immunocompromised due to cancer. She didn’t have any reactions to the first two shots but had typical side effects after the third. She got it this week. We are hopeful this offers her better protection.

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Anonymous wrote:I am unvaccinated but have already had covid. My blood is still showing antibodies, 9 months later. Pretty sure I don't need a vaccine.

Those antibodies are only going to protect you against the strain of Covid you had. If you want protection from delta or any other strain, you need a vaccine.

+1. Friend of mine has now had covid twice. Second time around she had worse symptoms.

Sure.

All I know is, my antibodies are still present, 9 months later. My fully vaccinated aunt no longer has any antibodies. People say the vaccine is better but something isn’t adding up.

I know someone who had covid in May and was pretty sick, but now has it again and is in the ICU. Only 52 years old. That’s proof that prior covid does not protect against delta.

Antibody tests do not tell you what specific strain you have antibodies to.
Vaccines target the spike protein found on every strain, and only specific antibody tests that look for that will detect thoroughly antibodies.

If this were true it would be national news.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am unvaccinated but have already had covid. My blood is still showing antibodies, 9 months later. Pretty sure I don't need a vaccine.

One single dose of the vaccine can increase your antibodies by up to 1000-fold compared to your antibody levels after recovery from COVID. In short, the vaccine will provide you a lot more protection than what your body would naturally produce on its own post-infection.

Get the damn shot.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-vaccines-help-covid-infected-already-pandemic

If the vaccines worked like the cheerleaders say they do, you wouldn't be wearing a mask while waiting in line for your booster shot.

The vaccine keeps me out of the hospital and prevents me from dying, it doesn't prevent me from getting sick. I'll take a vaccine + mild case over a 14 day trip to the hospital + a vent.

Getting sick is part of normal life. If that's truly all the risk you face, why mask? Why isolate? Why distance? Why boost?

The vaccinated are not acting like all they face is the sniffles. That speaks volumes.

NP. 1) Public health. I'm slowing spread (or at least not accelerating it). Even if it mostly is helping the unvaccinated (by choice or by age) and those who did not respond well (immunocompromised). This truly is my main motivation, and I look forward to when this is no longer the case and we have a good handle on how to deal with endemic COVID without routine masking for those who aren't sick. I am convinced we are NOT at this stage yet, we are still struggling with overwhelmed hospitals in parts of the country and world. When I was told vaccinated people did not spread it, I was happy to unmask. So were many many others. Turns out that was optimistic, at least after several months.

2) I have un-vaxed kids < 12. They are really quite low risk to have any meaningful complications, and they are more likely to catch it at school.... so this is a relatively small factor. But it is a consideration

3) It is easy enough to mask in public places. Not so easy to mask in social situations, so this falls back to item #1. But I'm willing to mask at the grocery store just to prevent a mild COVID case

And I'm willing to get a booster if data shows it will both help reduce my likelihood of spreading COVID, and will help prolong my protection of serious illness from COVID.

Pretty simple.

[Anonymous]

There was a "focus' on the unvaccinated in the US, and it continues. Politicians came out on the right and encouraged vaccination, media hyped "pandemic of the unvaccinated", places are mandating vaccinations to participate in certain parts of society or certain jobs. We've been taking it as far as we can, the rest will be incremental.

Pediatric vaccines are coming along, you can't accelerate the approval process any more than it already is.

It is true that we should be focusing on the global unvaccinated (those who WANT to be vaccinated) over boosters if we are trying to beat this as humanity, but It is less obvious what the US administration should do to best protect Americans. Boosters is another tool.

In the US, I do not think we are supply limited.

[Anonymous]

I am just wondering why boosters for rich nations are prioritized over first doses for frontline health care workers in the developing world. Oh yeah, that's right...anyway.

As long as the developing world is unvaccinated there will be variants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am just wondering why boosters for rich nations are prioritized over first doses for frontline health care workers in the developing world. Oh yeah, that's right...anyway.

As long as the developing world is unvaccinated there will be variants.

As long as the vaccines don't provide sterilizing immunity there will be variants. So plan on this just being endemic.

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Anonymous wrote:Because Fox and rightwing media lie to 40% of the country.

It’s a lot easier to persuade those who live in reality to get a booster than it is to break Murdoch’s hold on the unvaccinated.

75 percent of young African Americans in NYC unvaccinated. A notorious Fox News watching crowd for sure.

Link to recent numbers and support for your claim? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

Yes OP, agree the unvaccinated are driving the pandemic. Buy worthless adults who couldn't be bothered to get the vaccine by now are a lost cause. So the rest of us have to do what we can with boosters, vaccinating kids once eligible, etc. And Covid will still be circulating.

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Anonymous wrote:I am unvaccinated but have already had covid. My blood is still showing antibodies, 9 months later. Pretty sure I don't need a vaccine.

Those antibodies are only going to protect you against the strain of Covid you had. If you want protection from delta or any other strain, you need a vaccine.

+1. Friend of mine has now had covid twice. Second time around she had worse symptoms.

Sure.

All I know is, my antibodies are still present, 9 months later. My fully vaccinated aunt no longer has any antibodies. People say the vaccine is better but something isn’t adding up.

How are you assessing the T-cell response comparison?