Detroit Sheriff is short 150 deputies; receives zero job applications

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Anonymous wrote:There are help wanted signs everywhere in DC. Companies are going to need to pay a fair wage and offer good working conditions if they want staff. There's no other way around it.

Where I live (not DC) restaurants are unable to hire people due to low wages, so they’ve taken to posting on social media and posting signs *inside the restaurant itself* that government needs to abolish social services so people will be forced to work at $2.13 an hour.

Not surprisingly, it’s hurt their business. Which is probably good, since they don’t have any waitstaff anyway.

Exactly. The problem isnt that their business cant stay afloat without paying people pennies its that people are relying on social services, which is funny considering a lot of servers I used to know were eligible for social services like Medicaid, WIC/SNAP, daycare vouchers, etc. Trust me taxpayers end up paying for the low wage jobs anyways.

Clearly you have not been a server. The low wage is because you work on tips. The hourly salary really is the taxes for the tips. You are taxed on total business sold. I made a ton of money in college waiting tables and that is when I realized I was a conservative-I wanted to manage my destiny. The issue is that if people are not going to restaurants you do not make any money. The hourly wage for a server is not the issue. Until people go back to eat in, please remember if you carry out to give the same tip you would if you ate in if you want to be kind. I still tip the same way because I know this life and it is a good one if everyone tips. It is not the government responsibility. The servers who are really really hurting are the ones at high end places who literally make more than a lot of people but they cannot survive if you don't eat there and not as many people are going to get take out at Capital Grille because you are paying for the experience and don't want a cold steak. If you are vaccinated, go out and have a good meal.

Originally I was tipping the same amount. But then I realize that the wait staff isn’t even at work. They were fired or they quit. My tip is solely going to the cooks and dishwashers and hostess/cashier. These jobs are normal hourly wages, not wait staff wages. Why would I tip the same?

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Anonymous wrote:If the OP read the article they linked to, it’s clear that low pay is an issue. Low paying, high risk, high stress jobs are not attractive.
OP, do you yourself have a low paying, high stress, high risk job? If not, then you likely understand what’s behind the “crisis”.

Yeah OP admonished us to read the article carefully but didn’t do that him/herself. First of all, it’s the Detroit Police Department and the Wayne County Sheriffs Office, and clearly $36,000 per year is not going to cut it. That’s embarrassing.

That’s crazy low. I have several family members who are LEOs in other states who make a decent living, especially with overtime. I get that people don’t want to pay more in taxes but geesh. Services won’t be there when people need them.

When someone is threatening suicide, do you want a cop to show up and point a gun at the person, or do you want a mental health professional to show up and de-escalate the situation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:If the OP read the article they linked to, it’s clear that low pay is an issue. Low paying, high risk, high stress jobs are not attractive.
OP, do you yourself have a low paying, high stress, high risk job? If not, then you likely understand what’s behind the “crisis”.

Yeah OP admonished us to read the article carefully but didn’t do that him/herself. First of all, it’s the Detroit Police Department and the Wayne County Sheriffs Office, and clearly $36,000 per year is not going to cut it. That’s embarrassing.

That’s crazy low. I have several family members who are LEOs in other states who make a decent living, especially with overtime. I get that people don’t want to pay more in taxes but geesh. Services won’t be there when people need them.

When someone is threatening suicide, do you want a cop to show up and point a gun at the person, or do you want a mental health professional to show up and de-escalate the situation?

Do you mean when other family members are present and unable to deal with the suicidal person?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read this news account carefully:

https://www.wxyz.com/news/hiring-for-law-enforcement-jobs-requires-aggressive-marketing-and-more-pay


Takeaway here is simple:

- the Sheriff’s department has 150 job openings

- no one at all wanted to apply in April

- Detroit has a spiraling murder rate (and the vast majority of victims are young AA men).


Anyone think this should qualify as a crisis? Who is causing this total lack (zero applicants) of interest in these career jobs?

I believe our country (not just Detroit) is headed into troubling times.

Have you applied?

[Anonymous]

You don’t have to go to Detroit to see critical police shortages on the horizon.

Montgomery county is running 80% below average for police applicants. That’s applicants, not officers. They haven’t even been to the PA yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to go to Detroit to see critical police shortages on the horizon.

Montgomery county is running 80% below average for police applicants. That’s applicants, not officers. They haven’t even been to the PA yet.

Well I’m sure it is PURELY a pay issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the Liberals' USA.

They want to defund the police..... many jurisdictions are not doing this. Some are. But the actions they have taken have had the result they wanted.

They demonized the police. Called them racists. Attacked them relentless over the summer of 2020 - and attacks continue today. Police are being targeted and assassinated.

Now, police offices across the nation cannot get new recruits. There are record number of retirements and resignations from police departments. Police officers are afraid to do their job for fear they will be accused of a crime.

This was their goal. And, crime is skyrocketing. No surprises there.

Any facts to back your claims or just want to rant?

Yep.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/us/police-resignations-protests-asheville.html
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/1/15/22229584/police-retirements-backlash-chicago-new-york-minneapolis-john-catanzara-fop-michael-lappe
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/04/29/historic-police-exodus-in-cities-most-impacted-by-racial-justice-unrest-new-data-shows/?sh=2413a7bd8cf2
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/dc-police-union-officers-quitting-police-reform-bill/65-6effd563-6588-4827-a76b-3e89f3c64a0c
https://www.kctv5.com/news/record-numbers-of-officers-leaving-the-kansas-city-police-department/article_915bbadc-af8e-11eb-a699-176e993b13f6.html
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/police-chiefs-officers-across-america-quitting-as-defund-the-police-conversation-continues/287-7ad9a505-efef-46b8-aaae-2f4f35c40058

There are plenty more....

And, as for the pp asking about the benefit to liberals for rising crime rates.....
Unintended consequences. Too many liberals seem to assume that the cops are the bad guys and that if we could only reduce or eliminate police, we would live in this utopia where everyone is kind to everyone else. That is simply fairy tale thinking.

The myth of the “just a few bad apples” cop has been forever busted in the cell phone camera era. There are far too many bad apples and an order of magnitude more that are complicit. They deserve exactly the respect that they are being given.

And it’s hilarious, because the cop apologists who use the “just a few bad apples” line don’t even understand it. It’s that it only takes a few “bad apples” to SPOIL THE WHOLE BUNCH.

[Anonymous]

^^^^ plus, the idea there is “crime surge” is just hysteria created by the media.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the OP read the article they linked to, it’s clear that low pay is an issue. Low paying, high risk, high stress jobs are not attractive.
OP, do you yourself have a low paying, high stress, high risk job? If not, then you likely understand what’s behind the “crisis”.

Yeah OP admonished us to read the article carefully but didn’t do that him/herself. First of all, it’s the Detroit Police Department and the Wayne County Sheriffs Office, and clearly $36,000 per year is not going to cut it. That’s embarrassing.

That’s crazy low. I have several family members who are LEOs in other states who make a decent living, especially with overtime. I get that people don’t want to pay more in taxes but geesh. Services won’t be there when people need them.

When someone is threatening suicide, do you want a cop to show up and point a gun at the person, or do you want a mental health professional to show up and de-escalate the situation?

Do you mean when other family members are present and unable to deal with the suicidal person?

PSA: Family members are not qualified to deal with suicidal people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t have to go to Detroit to see critical police shortages on the horizon.

Montgomery county is running 80% below average for police applicants. That’s applicants, not officers. They haven’t even been to the PA yet.

Well I’m sure it is PURELY a pay issue.

It’s because kids can’t pass the background.

Smoking pot taking adderall and underaged drinking … the people aren’t there

[Anonymous]

My brother is a LEO out west. He says for the last 10 years, most of the new recruits were white male military rejects. Guys who were not allowed to enlist or were forced to leave boot camp. This is not a good sign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^^ plus, the idea there is “crime surge” is just hysteria created by the media.

Um...have you been to Atlanta lately? Tried shopping in what used to be one of their nicest malls? The crime surge in big cities and the reduced number of officers are not just media hype.

[Anonymous]

Supply and Demand. Citizens will start to demand more enforcement, taxes will have to go up to cover better salaries, someone will take the job(s) at the more attractive salaries despite all the negativity around policing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the Liberals' USA.

They want to defund the police..... many jurisdictions are not doing this. Some are. But the actions they have taken have had the result they wanted.

They demonized the police. Called them racists. Attacked them relentless over the summer of 2020 - and attacks continue today. Police are being targeted and assassinated.

Now, police offices across the nation cannot get new recruits. There are record number of retirements and resignations from police departments. Police officers are afraid to do their job for fear they will be accused of a crime.

This was their goal. And, crime is skyrocketing. No surprises there.

I'm a liberal. Not sure who "they" are. I don't want to defund the police. I want police to do better.

I have a lot of patience for police, it's an incredibly difficult job and I couldn't do it. I have no interest in "accusing" them of a crime. I get mad when they kneel on necks or shoot fleeing suspects in the back or laugh about breaking old lady bones for shoplifting. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/20/karen-garner-video-loveland-criminal-probe/.

They need to weed out their own bad guys and do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Welcome to the Liberals' USA.

They want to defund the police..... many jurisdictions are not doing this. Some are. But the actions they have taken have had the result they wanted.

They demonized the police. Called them racists. Attacked them relentless over the summer of 2020 - and attacks continue today. Police are being targeted and assassinated.

Now, police offices across the nation cannot get new recruits. There are record number of retirements and resignations from police departments. Police officers are afraid to do their job for fear they will be accused of a crime.

This was their goal. And, crime is skyrocketing. No surprises there.

I'm a liberal. Not sure who "they" are. I don't want to defund the police. I want police to do better.

I have a lot of patience for police, it's an incredibly difficult job and I couldn't do it. I have no interest in "accusing" them of a crime. I get mad when they kneel on necks or shoot fleeing suspects in the back or laugh about breaking old lady bones for shoplifting. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/20/karen-garner-video-loveland-criminal-probe/.

They need to weed out their own bad guys and do better.

+1. Anyone who reports misconduct is branded a “snitch” and penalized by fellow cops. So why would you if it meant no one would come the next time you called for backup? Until the culture changes everything goes around in the same destructive loop.