WHY aren't our children being educated on Mondays?

[Anonymous]

Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

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Anonymous wrote:Your school doesn’t have asynchronous work? That’s odd.

are you joking??? asynchronous work is code for "teacher wants to sleep."

LOL

I also thought that was funny because Mondays are my busiest day. I often have two to three meetings and use a large chunk of that time for grading and to plan for the week.

NP. Wasn’t the overtime for grading and planning done in their own time after teaching hours supposed to justify the months of vacation that teachers get each year that other professions don’t get? I thought it was supposed to even out.

During typical school years, I work 75-80 hours/week.
During Covid, I've worked 70-75 hours/week.

I'd say that still balances out to far more hours/year than most professions work.

What grade/subject do you teach and please break down those 70-75 hours in detail so that parents who think you're working less than 49 hours can understand. Break it down like 5 hours grading essays; 5 hours making new slides; 3 hours replying to parent or student emails.

If you are the teacher that originally posted the hours above, do not reply to this question. This person is not your employer and you don't need to justify anything to them. It's a trap, and don't fall for it.

Funniest answer ever. Sounds like this teacher knows that the 75 hours teacher was exaggerating. Or flat out lying.

Or they know that every horrible person on this forum is going to dissect every minute and use it against them. I think that one's more likely.

If it's not defensible against dissection, perhaps thec75 hour teacher needs better time management skills or needs to stop lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

There are so many possible responses to this statement. When I was a first year teacher I put in a lot of extra hours, to ensure that I was comfortable with the material and the lesson that I planned. I've also put in extra hours every time I changed a subject/grade. But once you're comfortable and you've been in the same content area/grade for a while you find efficiencies and you're able to use your time more wisely.

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Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

There are so many possible responses to this statement. When I was a first year teacher I put in a lot of extra hours, to ensure that I was comfortable with the material and the lesson that I planned. I've also put in extra hours every time I changed a subject/grade. But once you're comfortable and you've been in the same content area/grade for a while you find efficiencies and you're able to use your time more wisely.

It is a SHAM that districts do not actually give first year teachers materials and resources so they can teach without having to do this. Why do so many first year teachers suck? Because they are given nothing and expected to work 80 hour weeks to figure it out. I don’t do free labor anymore. I’m an excellent teacher but schools will take and take and take and manipulate you into thinking it’s “for the kids.” Nope.

[Anonymous]

Settle down.

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Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

There are so many possible responses to this statement. When I was a first year teacher I put in a lot of extra hours, to ensure that I was comfortable with the material and the lesson that I planned. I've also put in extra hours every time I changed a subject/grade. But once you're comfortable and you've been in the same content area/grade for a while you find efficiencies and you're able to use your time more wisely.

It is a SHAM that districts do not actually give first year teachers materials and resources so they can teach without having to do this. Why do so many first year teachers suck? Because they are given nothing and expected to work 80 hour weeks to figure it out. I don’t do free labor anymore. I’m an excellent teacher but schools will take and take and take and manipulate you into thinking it’s “for the kids.” Nope.

This is why I'm way more disgusted with Gatehouse and individual school administrators than any teacher out there. By the way, Gatehouse has left teachers to bear the brunt of the DL criticism. Do you ever see any of those fat cats standing up for teachers?

[Anonymous]

DS and his friends have full AP schedules and use all of the time on Monday's to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

There are so many possible responses to this statement. When I was a first year teacher I put in a lot of extra hours, to ensure that I was comfortable with the material and the lesson that I planned. I've also put in extra hours every time I changed a subject/grade. But once you're comfortable and you've been in the same content area/grade for a while you find efficiencies and you're able to use your time more wisely.

It is a SHAM that districts do not actually give first year teachers materials and resources so they can teach without having to do this. Why do so many first year teachers suck? Because they are given nothing and expected to work 80 hour weeks to figure it out. I don’t do free labor anymore. I’m an excellent teacher but schools will take and take and take and manipulate you into thinking it’s “for the kids.” Nope.

The irony is many of these teacher critics are likely federal workers who are notorious clock watchers that won't lift a finger outside of regular hours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

There are so many possible responses to this statement. When I was a first year teacher I put in a lot of extra hours, to ensure that I was comfortable with the material and the lesson that I planned. I've also put in extra hours every time I changed a subject/grade. But once you're comfortable and you've been in the same content area/grade for a while you find efficiencies and you're able to use your time more wisely.

It could be a specials teacher who has been stretched extremely thin this year. They get pulled in to provide extra support for regular classrooms for DL and that eats up all of their planning time. They basically have two jobs in our school this year. Regular specials material plus classroom aide.

Or a MS/HS teacher. I’ve been blown away by the quality of the teaching and richness of material. They are busting their butts and it shows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

Yeah, I know. I just get sucked in.

[Anonymous]

Op, to answer your question - because school boards decided this is how it's going to be done.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question:

How much education is actually occurring on other days of the week? (And not just during Covid times)

Public school is a joke. Maybe 30 minutes of actual learning occurs on any given school day. The rest of the time is spent greeting one another, organizing in groups or lines for one reason or another, managing behavior problems in the class, and working independently while waiting for the teacher to finally spend time with your small group.

Public school is daycare at this point. Who the hell gives a d*mn about Mondays?

Call it what you want. As long as I’m puttin food on thy table and enjoying 3 months of holidays combined a year you can absolutely call it what you wish.

Ok, I’ll say it again. It’s daycare. Any learning that occurs is because parents choose to supplement at home.

Enjoy your pennies!

I seriously need the teachers (daycare workers) to go back in person so I can get some work done. Then I can go back to educating my child in the evenings, weekends, and summers. Vaccinated and still not willing to go back? Just throw yourself in the dumpster like the trash that you are.

Many of them (including Ppals and Asst. Ppals) are. Good ones are in extinction.

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Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

There are so many possible responses to this statement. When I was a first year teacher I put in a lot of extra hours, to ensure that I was comfortable with the material and the lesson that I planned. I've also put in extra hours every time I changed a subject/grade. But once you're comfortable and you've been in the same content area/grade for a while you find efficiencies and you're able to use your time more wisely.

It is a SHAM that districts do not actually give first year teachers materials and resources so they can teach without having to do this. Why do so many first year teachers suck? Because they are given nothing and expected to work 80 hour weeks to figure it out. I don’t do free labor anymore. I’m an excellent teacher but schools will take and take and take and manipulate you into thinking it’s “for the kids.” Nope.

This is why I'm way more disgusted with Gatehouse and individual school administrators than any teacher out there. By the way, Gatehouse has left teachers to bear the brunt of the DL criticism. Do you ever see any of those fat cats standing up for teachers?

This is an excellent point. And the answer to your question is that NO, we don't hear any of them standing up for teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

There are so many possible responses to this statement. When I was a first year teacher I put in a lot of extra hours, to ensure that I was comfortable with the material and the lesson that I planned. I've also put in extra hours every time I changed a subject/grade. But once you're comfortable and you've been in the same content area/grade for a while you find efficiencies and you're able to use your time more wisely.

It could be a specials teacher who has been stretched extremely thin this year. They get pulled in to provide extra support for regular classrooms for DL and that eats up all of their planning time. They basically have two jobs in our school this year. Regular specials material plus classroom aide.

Or a MS/HS teacher. I’ve been blown away by the quality of the teaching and richness of material. They are busting their butts and it shows.

LMAO! A specials teacher working 75 hours a week!?!? My dc PE teacher only plays youtube videos. Her music teacher plays Little Einstein videos.

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Anonymous wrote:Any teacher who works 75 hour weeks is stupid. I say this as a teacher. You get paid for 40. Working 35 extra for free is pointless. You are burning yourself out for what? That is your family’s time. That is your time for yourself. It is not time you owe your employer. And it’s exactly why teacher salaries are what they are. Why would they pay any of us more when half of yall will martyr yourselves for free?

There are so many possible responses to this statement. When I was a first year teacher I put in a lot of extra hours, to ensure that I was comfortable with the material and the lesson that I planned. I've also put in extra hours every time I changed a subject/grade. But once you're comfortable and you've been in the same content area/grade for a while you find efficiencies and you're able to use your time more wisely.

It could be a specials teacher who has been stretched extremely thin this year. They get pulled in to provide extra support for regular classrooms for DL and that eats up all of their planning time. They basically have two jobs in our school this year. Regular specials material plus classroom aide.

Or a MS/HS teacher. I’ve been blown away by the quality of the teaching and richness of material. They are busting their butts and it shows.

LMAO! A specials teacher working 75 hours a week!?!? My dc PE teacher only plays youtube videos. Her music teacher plays Little Einstein videos.

Our PE teachers put together many of their own videos - compiled from what kids send in. They must do this on their own time because they are either running their own class or being an aide to classroom teachers all day long.

I was specifically thinking of the science teacher though who has gone above & beyond in science work this year. It’s clear from the materials that she puts together than she spends a lot of time preparing.