Virginia Tech vs. George Mason OOS

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.


That was true in the 90s, not anymore
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Anonymous
Here’s a good thread from people who go to GMU:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gmu/comments/f0ss3p/my_experience_here_at_gmu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

“I think what can be tough about GMU is that a large part of the student body are commuters. I saw a stat that only ~23% of students live on campus, which gives it a really different vibe than most schools.

I also did the NoVa to GMU route (while living at home to save money) and making friends took some work on my part. I joined the Student Media department which helped, but honestly, I just wasn’t on campus enough to make a massive group of friends. I’d attend classes and then go off to my part time job or back home.

I think too - kids who do this route already have a built in group of friends because they are local. There’s not that sense of being a new kid in a new town (among a ton of other new kids in a new town) who are collectively looking for friendship. Most people come to GMU with their social circles intact and still easily available.

I know there aren’t a lot of answers here but as someone who graduated quite a few years ago, my upside is that I did so without massive student loans and having saved a ton of money. The cost was a traditional college experience - which I sometimes regret but I’m glad I saved the money.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.


That was true in the 90s, not anymore

Among Virginia state schools it is true.
2019-2020, percent of first-time, first year students who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing:
UVA - 100%
Virginia Tech - 99%
William and Mary - 99%
James Madison - 98%
Christopher Newport University - 98%
Longwood - 96%
Radford - 91%
VCU - 82%
Old Dominion University - 72%
GMU - 62%

Per common data set


What are the numbers after first year? I suspect GMU, UVA, Virginia Tech, JMU, VCU, ODU are well below 50% on campus for four years. William & Mary, CNU, Radford, and Longwood are probably above 50%.
Anonymous
GMU requires all freshmen to live in campus. You can apply for a waiver . After allowing for those students who submitted for waivers, GMU reported 75 percent of freshmen living on campus in dorms for lady year
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.


That was true in the 90s, not anymore

Among Virginia state schools it is true.
2019-2020, percent of first-time, first year students who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing:
UVA - 100%
Virginia Tech - 99%
William and Mary - 99%
James Madison - 98%
Christopher Newport University - 98%
Longwood - 96%
Radford - 91%
VCU - 82%
Old Dominion University - 72%
GMU - 62%

Per common data set


What are the numbers after first year? I suspect GMU, UVA, Virginia Tech, JMU, VCU, ODU are well below 50% on campus for four years. William & Mary, CNU, Radford, and Longwood are probably above 50%.


Overall for undergraduates:

CNU 79% on campus
W&M 71% on campus
Longwood 65% on campus
Radford 45% on campus
UVA 38% on campus
VT 33% on campus
JMU 31% on campus
VCU 28% on campus
ODU 25% on campus
GMU 23% on campus


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.


That was true in the 90s, not anymore

Among Virginia state schools it is true.
2019-2020, percent of first-time, first year students who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing:
UVA - 100%
Virginia Tech - 99%
William and Mary - 99%
James Madison - 98%
Christopher Newport University - 98%
Longwood - 96%
Radford - 91%
VCU - 82%
Old Dominion University - 72%
GMU - 62%

Per common data set


What are the numbers after first year? I suspect GMU, UVA, Virginia Tech, JMU, VCU, ODU are well below 50% on campus for four years. William & Mary, CNU, Radford, and Longwood are probably above 50%.

Looking at numbers after the first year doesn’t tell you that much, because many students will move into apartments just slightly off campus but still walking to classes and integrated into the campus environment, but they’re still technically counted as off campus — that’s a very different situation than someone living a 20 or 30 minute drive from campus with parents or whomever. The reason you want to look at % of first year students living on campus is because at a lot of schools first years are required to live on campus unless they’re with parents. So if your school requires all freshman to live on campus (like GMU) but have a high percentage of freshmen NOT living on campus, then that’s more indicative of a commuter school, because the only way they can do that is if they live close by and commute.

One of my kids goes to a school (no where near VA) where 99% of freshmen live on campus and 46% of all undergrads do...that’s a residential school where students move to adjacent apartments as juniors. The other goes to a school where 97% live on campus as freshman and 30% of the school total does. That’s a residential school where kids move into adjacent housing as mostly as sophomores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:GMU requires all freshmen to live in campus. You can apply for a waiver . After allowing for those students who submitted for waivers, GMU reported 75 percent of freshmen living on campus in dorms for lady year

62% for the most recent year (SY 2019-2020).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU requires all freshmen to live in campus. You can apply for a waiver . After allowing for those students who submitted for waivers, GMU reported 75 percent of freshmen living on campus in dorms for lady year

62% for the most recent year (SY 2019-2020).



No, it's 75%. I have a DC there. Yes, it's true all freshmen are required to live on campus. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students. Those that qualify for the exemption and want to live elsewhere file this form. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students/apply-exemption. According to GMU's own site (not a third party publication that is guessing), 75% of first year students live on campus. https://www2.gmu.edu/student-life/housing. My DD has lived on campus for four years. The dorms have been wonderful. She lucked out with a single first year, a double but one that looked like a hotel room (with private bath, shower, and kitchen) the second year, a quad with a single the third. I can answer any questions you might have. Also the Honors College has its own dorm. 6200 students live on campus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU requires all freshmen to live in campus. You can apply for a waiver . After allowing for those students who submitted for waivers, GMU reported 75 percent of freshmen living on campus in dorms for lady year

62% for the most recent year (SY 2019-2020).



No, it's 75%. I have a DC there. Yes, it's true all freshmen are required to live on campus. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students. Those that qualify for the exemption and want to live elsewhere file this form. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students/apply-exemption. According to GMU's own site (not a third party publication that is guessing), 75% of first year students live on campus. https://www2.gmu.edu/student-life/housing. My DD has lived on campus for four years. The dorms have been wonderful. She lucked out with a single first year, a double but one that looked like a hotel room (with private bath, shower, and kitchen) the second year, a quad with a single the third. I can answer any questions you might have. Also the Honors College has its own dorm. 6200 students live on campus.

You’ll have to contact GMU directly and let them know that the numbers they entered into their own Common Data Set are incorrect:
https://irr2.gmu.edu/cds/cds_new/sec_action.cfm?year=2019-20&sec_id=F
Percent who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing 62
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU requires all freshmen to live in campus. You can apply for a waiver . After allowing for those students who submitted for waivers, GMU reported 75 percent of freshmen living on campus in dorms for lady year

62% for the most recent year (SY 2019-2020).



No, it's 75%. I have a DC there. Yes, it's true all freshmen are required to live on campus. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students. Those that qualify for the exemption and want to live elsewhere file this form. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students/apply-exemption. According to GMU's own site (not a third party publication that is guessing), 75% of first year students live on campus. https://www2.gmu.edu/student-life/housing. My DD has lived on campus for four years. The dorms have been wonderful. She lucked out with a single first year, a double but one that looked like a hotel room (with private bath, shower, and kitchen) the second year, a quad with a single the third. I can answer any questions you might have. Also the Honors College has its own dorm. 6200 students live on campus.

You’ll have to contact GMU directly and let them know that the numbers they entered into their own Common Data Set are incorrect:
https://irr2.gmu.edu/cds/cds_new/sec_action.cfm?year=2019-20&sec_id=F
Percent who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing 62



I have no need to contact them. I know how many students live on campus at GMU and I'm fine with GMU stating it's 75% of the first year class. You need to learn to stay with primary sources, not third-party unverifiable resources.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU requires all freshmen to live in campus. You can apply for a waiver . After allowing for those students who submitted for waivers, GMU reported 75 percent of freshmen living on campus in dorms for lady year

62% for the most recent year (SY 2019-2020).



No, it's 75%. I have a DC there. Yes, it's true all freshmen are required to live on campus. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students. Those that qualify for the exemption and want to live elsewhere file this form. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students/apply-exemption. According to GMU's own site (not a third party publication that is guessing), 75% of first year students live on campus. https://www2.gmu.edu/student-life/housing. My DD has lived on campus for four years. The dorms have been wonderful. She lucked out with a single first year, a double but one that looked like a hotel room (with private bath, shower, and kitchen) the second year, a quad with a single the third. I can answer any questions you might have. Also the Honors College has its own dorm. 6200 students live on campus.

You’ll have to contact GMU directly and let them know that the numbers they entered into their own Common Data Set are incorrect:
https://irr2.gmu.edu/cds/cds_new/sec_action.cfm?year=2019-20&sec_id=F
Percent who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing 62



I have no need to contact them. I know how many students live on campus at GMU and I'm fine with GMU stating it's 75% of the first year class. You need to learn to stay with primary sources, not third-party unverifiable resources.

The Common Data set created by and posted on GMU’s website is a third-party unverifiable resource? Ooookay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU requires all freshmen to live in campus. You can apply for a waiver . After allowing for those students who submitted for waivers, GMU reported 75 percent of freshmen living on campus in dorms for lady year

[b]62% for the most recent year (SY 2019-2020).



No, it's 75%. I have a DC there. Yes, it's true all freshmen are required to live on campus. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students. Those that qualify for the exemption and want to live elsewhere file this form. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students/apply-exemption. According to GMU's own site (not a third party publication that is guessing), 75% of first year students live on campus. https://www2.gmu.edu/student-life/housing. My DD has lived on campus for four years. The dorms have been wonderful. She lucked out with a single first year, a double but one that looked like a hotel room (with private bath, shower, and kitchen) the second year, a quad with a single the third. I can answer any questions you might have. Also the Honors College has its own dorm. 6200 students live on campus.

You’ll have to contact GMU directly and let them know that the numbers they entered into their own Common Data Set are incorrect:
https://irr2.gmu.edu/cds/cds_new/sec_action.cfm?year=2019-20&sec_id=F
Percent who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing 62



I have no need to contact them. I know how many students live on campus at GMU and I'm fine with GMU stating it's 75% of the first year class. You need to learn to stay with primary sources, not third-party unverifiable resources.

The Common Data set created by and posted on GMU’s website is a third-party unverifiable resource? Ooookay.


You have an ego problem with being wrong, don't you? The stats are 75% for first year students per GMU. Then it gets more difficult to get a room because the University wants to allocate it to freshman first. Last year, some of the upper-classmen were upset because GMU wouldn't guarantee them another year of student housing. Housing in Fairfax is expensive plus it requires a car. Student housing is in demand. Any more questions?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:GMU requires all freshmen to live in campus. You can apply for a waiver . After allowing for those students who submitted for waivers, GMU reported 75 percent of freshmen living on campus in dorms for lady year

[b]62% for the most recent year (SY 2019-2020).



No, it's 75%. I have a DC there. Yes, it's true all freshmen are required to live on campus. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students. Those that qualify for the exemption and want to live elsewhere file this form. https://housing.gmu.edu/apply/new-students/apply-exemption. According to GMU's own site (not a third party publication that is guessing), 75% of first year students live on campus. https://www2.gmu.edu/student-life/housing. My DD has lived on campus for four years. The dorms have been wonderful. She lucked out with a single first year, a double but one that looked like a hotel room (with private bath, shower, and kitchen) the second year, a quad with a single the third. I can answer any questions you might have. Also the Honors College has its own dorm. 6200 students live on campus.

You’ll have to contact GMU directly and let them know that the numbers they entered into their own Common Data Set are incorrect:
https://irr2.gmu.edu/cds/cds_new/sec_action.cfm?year=2019-20&sec_id=F
Percent who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing 62



I have no need to contact them. I know how many students live on campus at GMU and I'm fine with GMU stating it's 75% of the first year class. You need to learn to stay with primary sources, not third-party unverifiable resources.

The Common Data set created by and posted on GMU’s website is a third-party unverifiable resource? Ooookay.


You have an ego problem with being wrong, don't you? The stats are 75% for first year students per GMU. Then it gets more difficult to get a room because the University wants to allocate it to freshman first. Last year, some of the upper-classmen were upset because GMU wouldn't guarantee them another year of student housing. Housing in Fairfax is expensive plus it requires a car. Student housing is in demand. Any more questions?

No; but I think you do. Look. At. The. Common. Data. Set. For the 2019-2020 school year, 62% of first-time, first year students lived in college owned, operated, or affiliated housing. Their words, not mine.
Anonymous
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t think anyone is saying that there aren’t students living on campus. Just that compared to many colleges, there is a larger percent who live at home with parents and come from the immediate area.


That was true in the 90s, not anymore

Among Virginia state schools it is true.
2019-2020, percent of first-time, first year students who live in college-owned, -operated, or -affiliated housing:
UVA - 100%
Virginia Tech - 99%
William and Mary - 99%
James Madison - 98%
Christopher Newport University - 98%
Longwood - 96%
Radford - 91%
VCU - 82%
Old Dominion University - 72%
GMU - 62%

Per common data set


What are the numbers after first year? I suspect GMU, UVA, Virginia Tech, JMU, VCU, ODU are well below 50% on campus for four years. William & Mary, CNU, Radford, and Longwood are probably above 50%.

Looking at numbers after the first year doesn’t tell you that much, because many students will move into apartments just slightly off campus but still walking to classes and integrated into the campus environment, but they’re still technically counted as off campus — that’s a very different situation than someone living a 20 or 30 minute drive from campus with parents or whomever. The reason you want to look at % of first year students living on campus is because at a lot of schools first years are required to live on campus unless they’re with parents. So if your school requires all freshman to live on campus (like GMU) but have a high percentage of freshmen NOT living on campus, then that’s more indicative of a commuter school, because the only way they can do that is if they live close by and commute.

One of my kids goes to a school (no where near VA) where 99% of freshmen live on campus and 46% of all undergrads do...that’s a residential school where students move to adjacent apartments as juniors. The other goes to a school where 97% live on campus as freshman and 30% of the school total does. That’s a residential school where kids move into adjacent housing as mostly as sophomores.


Perhaps, but a lot of the best schools have a high percentage of students living on campus for four years. Princeton 94%, Harvard 97%, Yale 84%, Stanford 93%, Chicago 85%, Duke 85%, MIT 92%, etc.
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