Bevin pardons a KY man convicted of beheading a woman and stuffing her in a barrel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the guy have multiple occasions to assault the girl? That’s not in the article I can access.

He was a relative of the girl. I don’t know why idiots like Bevin decide they know better than a judge and jury who listened to the trial.

Because there was no forensic evidence at all? Just her word?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And regarding the NYT article:

“ One of the difficult cases to land on the governor’s desk was the 2016 arrest of Mr. Schoettle, whose late stepfather was a former chairman of the Bank of Kentucky and whose mother served until recently on a state legislative ethics commission.

The girl accused Mr. Schoettle several months after she said the abuse had stopped, and all parties agree that there was no physical evidence or independent witnesses in the case.

Deanna L. Dennison, an appeals lawyer in his case, questioned why DNA testing had not been done in the bedroom where the abuse was reported to have occurred over several years. “What investigation did they do?” she said. “They took a 13-year-old’s word for it, and that was it.”

The Kentucky Innocence Project also believed there were “forensic issues,” but had held off on taking the case while the appeals process played out, the project’s director, Suzanne Hopf, said.

Prosecutors in Kenton County cited research that it was not uncommon for child victims to delay reporting, and that many abused children do not show signs of physical injury when tested. The girl testified from the stand.

“This little girl was raped repeatedly over three years, and I’m not about to call her a liar just because she didn’t call police as soon as it happened,” said Rob Sanders, the Kenton County commonwealth’s attorney. “I trust the collective wisdom of 12 citizens of Kenton County much more than I do the ignorant opinions of Matt Bevin.”

So, in other words, a 13 year old’s word was all that put this guy away. Insanity. The Innocence Project does not take cases lightly.

Why does her age matter here? Why did a jury of 12 selected by both prosecution and defense find him guilty?

[Anonymous]

The Innocence Project hadn't even taken the case, and the appeal was pending.

But Bevin knows better than the entire legal system AND The Innocence Project. Okay.

Bevin has angered so many hundreds of people that his life may be in danger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the guy have multiple occasions to assault the girl? That’s not in the article I can access.

He was a relative of the girl. I don’t know why idiots like Bevin decide they know better than a judge and jury who listened to the trial.

Because there was no forensic evidence at all? Just her word?

So what? Forensic evidence isn’t a requirement if you have other types of evidence. But sure, you seem think it’s fine to let out a predator of young girls on a whim. I hope he moves to your neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And regarding the NYT article:

“ One of the difficult cases to land on the governor’s desk was the 2016 arrest of Mr. Schoettle, whose late stepfather was a former chairman of the Bank of Kentucky and whose mother served until recently on a state legislative ethics commission.

The girl accused Mr. Schoettle several months after she said the abuse had stopped, and all parties agree that there was no physical evidence or independent witnesses in the case.

Deanna L. Dennison, an appeals lawyer in his case, questioned why DNA testing had not been done in the bedroom where the abuse was reported to have occurred over several years. “What investigation did they do?” she said. “They took a 13-year-old’s word for it, and that was it.”

The Kentucky Innocence Project also believed there were “forensic issues,” but had held off on taking the case while the appeals process played out, the project’s director, Suzanne Hopf, said.

Prosecutors in Kenton County cited research that it was not uncommon for child victims to delay reporting, and that many abused children do not show signs of physical injury when tested. The girl testified from the stand.

“This little girl was raped repeatedly over three years, and I’m not about to call her a liar just because she didn’t call police as soon as it happened,” said Rob Sanders, the Kenton County commonwealth’s attorney. “I trust the collective wisdom of 12 citizens of Kenton County much more than I do the ignorant opinions of Matt Bevin.”

So, in other words, a 13 year old’s word was all that put this guy away. Insanity. The Innocence Project does not take cases lightly.

Why does her age matter here? Why did a jury of 12 selected by both prosecution and defense find him guilty?

Because usually forensic evidence matters. Thirteen year olds can lie for various reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Innocence Project hadn't even taken the case, and the appeal was pending.

But Bevin knows better than the entire legal system AND The Innocence Project. Okay.

Bevin has angered so many hundreds of people that his life may be in danger.

The Project had not taken the case because they were waiting on the appeal. You know that, but chose to word it as if they weren’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the guy have multiple occasions to assault the girl? That’s not in the article I can access.

He was a relative of the girl. I don’t know why idiots like Bevin decide they know better than a judge and jury who listened to the trial.

Because there was no forensic evidence at all? Just her word?

So what? Forensic evidence isn’t a requirement if you have other types of evidence. But sure, you seem think it’s fine to let out a predator of young girls on a whim. I hope he moves to your neighborhood.

Forensic evidence is very important if you plan to put someone away. Without it, you don’t actually know if he is a predator of young girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Innocence Project hadn't even taken the case, and the appeal was pending.

But Bevin knows better than the entire legal system AND The Innocence Project. Okay.

Bevin has angered so many hundreds of people that his life may be in danger.

The Project had not taken the case because they were waiting on the appeal. You know that, but chose to word it as if they weren’t.

Right. An organization of lawyers and advocates chose to let the appeal process play out.

But Bevin knew better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And regarding the NYT article:

“ One of the difficult cases to land on the governor’s desk was the 2016 arrest of Mr. Schoettle, whose late stepfather was a former chairman of the Bank of Kentucky and whose mother served until recently on a state legislative ethics commission.

The girl accused Mr. Schoettle several months after she said the abuse had stopped, and all parties agree that there was no physical evidence or independent witnesses in the case.

Deanna L. Dennison, an appeals lawyer in his case, questioned why DNA testing had not been done in the bedroom where the abuse was reported to have occurred over several years. “What investigation did they do?” she said. “They took a 13-year-old’s word for it, and that was it.”

The Kentucky Innocence Project also believed there were “forensic issues,” but had held off on taking the case while the appeals process played out, the project’s director, Suzanne Hopf, said.

Prosecutors in Kenton County cited research that it was not uncommon for child victims to delay reporting, and that many abused children do not show signs of physical injury when tested. The girl testified from the stand.

“This little girl was raped repeatedly over three years, and I’m not about to call her a liar just because she didn’t call police as soon as it happened,” said Rob Sanders, the Kenton County commonwealth’s attorney. “I trust the collective wisdom of 12 citizens of Kenton County much more than I do the ignorant opinions of Matt Bevin.”

So, in other words, a 13 year old’s word was all that put this guy away. Insanity. The Innocence Project does not take cases lightly.

Why does her age matter here? Why did a jury of 12 selected by both prosecution and defense find him guilty?

Because usually forensic evidence matters. Thirteen year olds can lie for various reasons.

So can adult men. In this case the adult man has more to benefit from lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the guy have multiple occasions to assault the girl? That’s not in the article I can access.

He was a relative of the girl. I don’t know why idiots like Bevin decide they know better than a judge and jury who listened to the trial.

Because there was no forensic evidence at all? Just her word?

So what? Forensic evidence isn’t a requirement if you have other types of evidence. But sure, you seem think it’s fine to let out a predator of young girls on a whim. I hope he moves to your neighborhood.

Forensic evidence is very important if you plan to put someone away. Without it, you don’t actually know if he is a predator of young girls.

How was rape prosecuted before DNA testing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the guy have multiple occasions to assault the girl? That’s not in the article I can access.

He was a relative of the girl. I don’t know why idiots like Bevin decide they know better than a judge and jury who listened to the trial.

Because there was no forensic evidence at all? Just her word?

So what? Forensic evidence isn’t a requirement if you have other types of evidence. But sure, you seem think it’s fine to let out a predator of young girls on a whim. I hope he moves to your neighborhood.

Forensic evidence is very important if you plan to put someone away. Without it, you don’t actually know if he is a predator of young girls.

So if a child doesn't immediately report their rape by a family member to the proper authorities within 24 hours so they can have a rape examination, then that person should be free?

No. Forensic evidence is one form of evidence. There are many others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did the guy have multiple occasions to assault the girl? That’s not in the article I can access.

He was a relative of the girl. I don’t know why idiots like Bevin decide they know better than a judge and jury who listened to the trial.

Because there was no forensic evidence at all? Just her word?

So what? Forensic evidence isn’t a requirement if you have other types of evidence. But sure, you seem think it’s fine to let out a predator of young girls on a whim. I hope he moves to your neighborhood.

Forensic evidence is very important if you plan to put someone away. Without it, you don’t actually know if he is a predator of young girls.

So if a child doesn't immediately report their rape by a family member to the proper authorities within 24 hours so they can have a rape examination, then that person should be free?

No. Forensic evidence is one form of evidence. There are many others.

+1. Tell that to Bevin. He knows best even though an entire community of prosecutors and medical professionals are horrified by his actions and the reasons for them.

[Anonymous]

Can you imagine if this lunatic had been re-elected?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you imagine if this lunatic had been re-elected?

Yes, actually. We live in a strange time. It wouldn't surprise me.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like Bevin would pardon Harvey Weinstein if he could.