How to get teen son to stop disrespecting the President?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

You both are old fools. Like so many like you. Ugh.

People have differing opinion, PP. When you are a grown up, you will understand that.

And have you explained that to your equally liberal friends, who strangely believe that everyone should think as they do? No? Try starting there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

At the dinner table? Don't you know the old etiquette rule of the three things never to discuss at the dinner table or polite company: politics, money and religion. Raise your children not to discuss any of these. It's all the more true now on campus. My kids are conservatives and we have suggested that they never talk about politics anywhere on campus, because next thing you know you will be hauled up before a campus committee or later in life reported to HR (another ongoing thread). Parents should be teaching their children moderation and decorum in publc.

Agree 100%. Some of these PPs seem to have zero understanding of etiquette and decorum. Zero.

Some issues go beyond "etiquette and decorum" and this administration is one of them. This is principles and not politics. I will not sit silently while someone degrades women, makes fun of disabled people, supports and defends Nazis, insults immigrants and gold star families. I will not let it go and I will not let it slide.

Your son is moral and principled, OP. Be proud of his intentions.

This will not stand!! You sound like an idiot. The vast majority of people who voted for Trump do not take part in any of those behaviors, nor do they condone Trump for his poor behavior. They simply voted on policies, nothing more. Hard to wrap your overly emotional brain around, I'm sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

Again. Not an argument to have a conversation. The idea of dinner parties is having actual discussions or just having fun time. It's like saying uncle Joe is obese, aunt Suzie is stupid. What is the point?

I'm PP and I agree with this, but I maintain that it sounds like the son is saying things that are true and substantive.

OP is about behavior. It's irrelevant if the statements are true or false. It's about delivery. OP didn't provide an example of substantive sayings.

I suspect OP cares very little about the substance of her son's views as long as they fall into line with OP's.

Kind of like Trump.

Or kind of like the liberals over on another thread who were saying how ashamed and disappointed they'd be if their kids grew up to be conservatives. And that they would cease to "like" them anymore. Lovely examples of great parenting.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/684174.page

Stop saying Trump is a conservative.

His views are not aligned with most conservatives.

Um, what? The posters on the linked thread were saying how disgusted they would be if their kids grew up to be conservatives, period. How I would hate to have parents who dictated what I could and could not believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

Again. Not an argument to have a conversation. The idea of dinner parties is having actual discussions or just having fun time. It's like saying uncle Joe is obese, aunt Suzie is stupid. What is the point?

I'm PP and I agree with this, but I maintain that it sounds like the son is saying things that are true and substantive.

OP is about behavior. It's irrelevant if the statements are true or false. It's about delivery. OP didn't provide an example of substantive sayings.

I suspect OP cares very little about the substance of her son's views as long as they fall into line with OP's.

Kind of like Trump.

Or kind of like the liberals over on another thread who were saying how ashamed and disappointed they'd be if their kids grew up to be conservatives. And that they would cease to "like" them anymore. Lovely examples of great parenting.
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/684174.page

Stop saying Trump is a conservative.

His views are not aligned with most conservatives.

From the linked thread:

"If this had been some flippant, intended-to-be-derogatory remark about a michelle Obama, everyone would be snapping out here. Mean is mean. Raise good kids, don’t teach them it’s okay to be mean just because YOU don’t like the person either. What if your kids grow up to be conservative and republican? You going to stop loving them and start making fun of them?"

"Well, the latter, yeah."

"This. I would be incredibly disappointed and feel I had failed as a parent if that's how my kids turned out."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You need to tell your son that he is in danger of offending strangers and those he might not want to offend IRL DCUM is not representative of what is happening in our nation right now. He needs to learn to keep his opinions to himself and shut up if he is going to succeed at school and at college.

The vast majority of Americans feel like OP's son he will do just fine in college and school.

Yes, all we need are more entitled snowflakes throwing tantrums about democratically elected politicians and calling those who voted for him, "idiots." Oh, and also protesting (often violently) whenever their school invites a speaker with whom they disagree. "Freedom of speech!! As long as I agree with it."

Completely agree, PP. “As long you you agree with me” is the democrat/liberal motto. It’s sad. When Obama was President many of us conservatives were as appalled and disgusted by things he did/didn’t do but did it respond with the level of vitriol and hatred as the current situation. I think it is good to teach your son that even if we don’t agree with things, we can still respect them and save the comments and discussions for an appropriate place and audience.

Were you ina coma during his administration.

People did fake lynchjngs with his image on a dummy.

Learn to write correctly and then perhaps people will bother to read your posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

You both are old fools. Like so many like you. Ugh.

People have differing opinion, PP. When you are a grown up, you will understand that.

And have you explained that to your equally liberal friends, who strangely believe that everyone should think as they do? No? Try starting there.

No, that is not how I think at all nor anyone I know. But this is an opinion forum, PP, and I am voicing my opinion. Just like you are - except I am not calling you names or pretending I know who you and your friends are or how they act or what they believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

At the dinner table? Don't you know the old etiquette rule of the three things never to discuss at the dinner table or polite company: politics, money and religion. Raise your children not to discuss any of these. It's all the more true now on campus. My kids are conservatives and we have suggested that they never talk about politics anywhere on campus, because next thing you know you will be hauled up before a campus committee or later in life reported to HR (another ongoing thread). Parents should be teaching their children moderation and decorum in publc.

Agree 100%. Some of these PPs seem to have zero understanding of etiquette and decorum. Zero.

Some issues go beyond "etiquette and decorum" and this administration is one of them. This is principles and not politics. I will not sit silently while someone degrades women, makes fun of disabled people, supports and defends Nazis, insults immigrants and gold star families. I will not let it go and I will not let it slide.

Your son is moral and principled, OP. Be proud of his intentions.

This will not stand!! You sound like an idiot. The vast majority of people who voted for Trump do not take part in any of those behaviors, nor do they condone Trump for his poor behavior. They simply voted on policies, nothing more. Hard to wrap your overly emotional brain around, I'm sure.

What policies? trump had catch phrases and empty promises - nothing more. He is a con man and you fell for the con.

The President of the United States is not simply policy - he is principle. You who voted for him have none either.

[Anonymous]

I would be proud of your son if I were you, OP. He is young - he will learn to be more diplomatic and, frankly, dismissive of certain people as he gets older. But he is standing up for what he believes. You don't have to like it or agree with him. But I respect any young person who is willing to enter into an uncomfortable social situation to stand up for what they believe in.

[Anonymous]

My now 15 yo son stopped disrespecting the president in January. It was a relief for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

At the dinner table? Don't you know the old etiquette rule of the three things never to discuss at the dinner table or polite company: politics, money and religion. Raise your children not to discuss any of these. It's all the more true now on campus. My kids are conservatives and we have suggested that they never talk about politics anywhere on campus, because next thing you know you will be hauled up before a campus committee or later in life reported to HR (another ongoing thread). Parents should be teaching their children moderation and decorum in publc.

Agree 100%. Some of these PPs seem to have zero understanding of etiquette and decorum. Zero.

Some issues go beyond "etiquette and decorum" and this administration is one of them. This is principles and not politics. I will not sit silently while someone degrades women, makes fun of disabled people, supports and defends Nazis, insults immigrants and gold star families. I will not let it go and I will not let it slide.

Your son is moral and principled, OP. Be proud of his intentions.

He seems to be obnoxious and doesn't appear to be saying anything of substance. Bitching about the president around friends and family is guaranteed to push them away. And you aren't helping your cause by not having any discretion in social situations. It is a huge turn-off. It's amazing how people allow Trump to impact their emotions. How are you going to deal with real adversity if you get pissed off every time Trump tweets something?

[Anonymous]

You are asking your son to have more respect for the office of the president. Trump doesn't exhibit respect for the office of the president.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

I am 62 and I agree 100%.

Plus, OP, your son is exercising his free speech.

At the dinner table? Don't you know the old etiquette rule of the three things never to discuss at the dinner table or polite company: politics, money and religion. Raise your children not to discuss any of these. It's all the more true now on campus. My kids are conservatives and we have suggested that they never talk about politics anywhere on campus, because next thing you know you will be hauled up before a campus committee or later in life reported to HR (another ongoing thread). Parents should be teaching their children moderation and decorum in publc.

Agree 100%. Some of these PPs seem to have zero understanding of etiquette and decorum. Zero.

Some issues go beyond "etiquette and decorum" and this administration is one of them. This is principles and not politics. I will not sit silently while someone degrades women, makes fun of disabled people, supports and defends Nazis, insults immigrants and gold star families. I will not let it go and I will not let it slide.

Your son is moral and principled, OP. Be proud of his intentions.

This will not stand!! You sound like an idiot. The vast majority of people who voted for Trump do not take part in any of those behaviors, nor do they condone Trump for his poor behavior. They simply voted on policies, nothing more. Hard to wrap your overly emotional brain around, I'm sure.

Keep trying to excuse and normalize your own intense ignorance. You can keep trying to justify it, but no ones buying it.
Resist!

[Anonymous]

Frankly, I would be horrified if my DD (15) respected this non-democratically elected president. (Republiclly elected yes...but in a democracy the one with the most votes wins).

This man is a racist and nazi sympathizer.

[Anonymous]

Team son. Respect is earned, and our current president has done nothing to earn it. Quite the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am 46.

Trump is the first occupant of the Oval in my lifetime who is unworthy of the office and my respect. I agree with your son and applaud his conviction and articulation of it.

The problem is that the son is not articulating anything. No substance in the words. In order to be heard, an opinion should have more than insults. I don't think son exposed any of his view using actual arguments.

He is a traitor and is a racist/fascist. A majority of the country knows this.

If you were at my dinner table and said that about the president, I'd escort you out. What a stupid thing to say.

Bless your heart! You'd never have the privilege of me accepting your invite!