Where is the outrage over DC youth gun crime?

[Anonymous]

Yes. Indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post has now run two days of fairly incredible reporting on the revolving door which is DC sentencing and rehabilitation guidelines for youth under 22, up to and including repeat crimes with guns and in rare instances murder. One of the most striking techniques is for prosecutors to willingly label real guns used to commit crimes (ie being held to peoples heads) as "imitation" to avoid automatic penalties. Law abiding law enforcement trained DC residents are being turned down for concealed carry permits under our city's strict interpretation of gun laws, while these shannanigans are going on? Where are the anti gun people on this? I think its a travesty and I'm for sensible gun laws including sentencing firmly those who use them to victimize.

This anti-gun person is where I've always been and feel more strongly than ever: outlaw guns.

I feel no safer knowing some "law enforcement trained DC resident" may be sitting next to me on the Metro.

More afraid you're the guy who's going to shoot my son while he's on a jog around the neighborhood because you think he looks suspicious and you fear for your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post has now run two days of fairly incredible reporting on the revolving door which is DC sentencing and rehabilitation guidelines for youth under 22, up to and including repeat crimes with guns and in rare instances murder. One of the most striking techniques is for prosecutors to willingly label real guns used to commit crimes (ie being held to peoples heads) as "imitation" to avoid automatic penalties. Law abiding law enforcement trained DC residents are being turned down for concealed carry permits under our city's strict interpretation of gun laws, while these shannanigans are going on? Where are the anti gun people on this? I think its a travesty and I'm for sensible gun laws including sentencing firmly those who use them to victimize.

This anti-gun person is where I've always been and feel more strongly than ever: outlaw guns.

I feel no safer knowing some "law enforcement trained DC resident" may be sitting next to me on the Metro.

More afraid you're the guy who's going to shoot my son while he's on a jog around the neighborhood because you think he looks suspicious and you fear for your life.

Violently-inclined criminals are famous for obeying gun laws. That's why cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark and Baltimore are so safe - they've got all of those anti-gun laws keeping you feeling fuzzy about being there.

It's working, right? Chicago only has an all-time high of 700 murders this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No mention of lead, specifically getting it out of dwellings? That stuff screws with kids' brains, ruining impulse control and so on. Beyond that, I second the idea that perhaps preventing/delaying parenthood is crucial. Unfortunately, for those of you praising Trump, consider that Planned Parenthood is exactly what can help with that mission!

My house was built over 100 years ago, like many rowhouses in DC. Anything built before 1970 has lead in it. Yet, my children are not super-preditors. Instead they are scholars, musicians, and athletes.

Go Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post has now run two days of fairly incredible reporting on the revolving door which is DC sentencing and rehabilitation guidelines for youth under 22, up to and including repeat crimes with guns and in rare instances murder. One of the most striking techniques is for prosecutors to willingly label real guns used to commit crimes (ie being held to peoples heads) as "imitation" to avoid automatic penalties. Law abiding law enforcement trained DC residents are being turned down for concealed carry permits under our city's strict interpretation of gun laws, while these shannanigans are going on? Where are the anti gun people on this? I think its a travesty and I'm for sensible gun laws including sentencing firmly those who use them to victimize.

This anti-gun person is where I've always been and feel more strongly than ever: outlaw guns.

I feel no safer knowing some "law enforcement trained DC resident" may be sitting next to me on the Metro.

More afraid you're the guy who's going to shoot my son while he's on a jog around the neighborhood because you think he looks suspicious and you fear for your life.

But you're not raising an eyebrow over the criminal who robs you with a gun in DC and gets off?

[Anonymous]

Violently-inclined criminals are famous for obeying gun laws. That's why cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark and Baltimore are so safe - they've got all of those anti-gun laws keeping you feeling fuzzy about being there.

It's working, right? Chicago only has an all-time high of 700 murders this year.

Those cities are surrounded by areas without such laws. Islands like Hawaii (and Japan, among others) show what happens when it's very difficult to bring weapons into a territory. So, if anti-weapon policies could expand beyond these cities, that should deliver results.

My house was built over 100 years ago, like many rowhouses in DC. Anything built before 1970 has lead in it. Yet, my children are not super-preditors. Instead they are scholars, musicians, and athletes.

Is the lead paint flaking, and/or do you have the means to prevent/repair that? Many are not so fortunate. There's also the matter of environmental racism affecting the locations of pollution sources, and things like the massive hate crime that is Flint's water crisis.

We are aware of the overall Great Crime Decline, right? It seems so, since most of the focus is on the specific matter of DC youth gun crime.

[Anonymous]

You're all Racists! Who are you to tell a Black man what to do with his (illegally obtained, unregistered) gun?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No mention of lead, specifically getting it out of dwellings? That stuff screws with kids' brains, ruining impulse control and so on. Beyond that, I second the idea that perhaps preventing/delaying parenthood is crucial. Unfortunately, for those of you praising Trump, consider that Planned Parenthood is exactly what can help with that mission!

My house was built over 100 years ago, like many rowhouses in DC. Anything built before 1970 has lead in it. Yet, my children are not super-preditors. Instead they are scholars, musicians, and athletes.

Go Trump.

+1.

#StopTheBS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Violently-inclined criminals are famous for obeying gun laws. That's why cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark and Baltimore are so safe - they've got all of those anti-gun laws keeping you feeling fuzzy about being there.

It's working, right? Chicago only has an all-time high of 700 murders this year.

Those cities are surrounded by areas without such laws. Islands like Hawaii (and Japan, among others) show what happens when it's very difficult to bring weapons into a territory. So, if anti-weapon policies could expand beyond these cities, that should deliver results.

My house was built over 100 years ago, like many rowhouses in DC. Anything built before 1970 has lead in it. Yet, my children are not super-preditors. Instead they are scholars, musicians, and athletes.

Is the lead paint flaking, and/or do you have the means to prevent/repair that? Many are not so fortunate. There's also the matter of environmental racism affecting the locations of pollution sources, and things like the massive hate crime that is Flint's water crisis.

We are aware of the overall Great Crime Decline, right? It seems so, since most of the focus is on the specific matter of DC youth gun crime.

Chicago and dc will not have moats built around them. There has not been a great crime decline in the past year in these cities. Crime has risen. This post is not about dc youth crime, its about the dc youth rehabilitation act which lets repeat offenders off lightly, often to reoffend in the streets in ways that victimizes just about everyone. Please respond to that. Removing lead and guns is about causality. This thread is about what you do once the crime has been committed.
Also, this thread is not just about gun crime - one of the youths hit a postal worker on the head with a brick. Its about how they are adjudicated once they rob, rape, carjack and sometimes murder using whatever weapons they have at their disposal. The gun discussion only relates to prosecutors in a city otherwise very tough on guns pleading their gun charge down to possession of imitation guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post has now run two days of fairly incredible reporting on the revolving door which is DC sentencing and rehabilitation guidelines for youth under 22, up to and including repeat crimes with guns and in rare instances murder. One of the most striking techniques is for prosecutors to willingly label real guns used to commit crimes (ie being held to peoples heads) as "imitation" to avoid automatic penalties. Law abiding law enforcement trained DC residents are being turned down for concealed carry permits under our city's strict interpretation of gun laws, while these shannanigans are going on? Where are the anti gun people on this? I think its a travesty and I'm for sensible gun laws including sentencing firmly those who use them to victimize.

This anti-gun person is where I've always been and feel more strongly than ever: outlaw guns.

I feel no safer knowing some "law enforcement trained DC resident" may be sitting next to me on the Metro.

More afraid you're the guy who's going to shoot my son while he's on a jog around the neighborhood because you think he looks suspicious and you fear for your life.

Violently-inclined criminals are famous for obeying gun laws. That's why cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark and Baltimore are so safe - they've got all of those anti-gun laws keeping you feeling fuzzy about being there.

It's working, right? Chicago only has an all-time high of 700 murders this year.

The problem isn't with the anti-gun laws, it's that they are not uniformly applied. All a kid from Chicago has to do is take a half hour trip to Indiana and there he can get a gun at a gun show via private buy with zero background check.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post has now run two days of fairly incredible reporting on the revolving door which is DC sentencing and rehabilitation guidelines for youth under 22, up to and including repeat crimes with guns and in rare instances murder. One of the most striking techniques is for prosecutors to willingly label real guns used to commit crimes (ie being held to peoples heads) as "imitation" to avoid automatic penalties. Law abiding law enforcement trained DC residents are being turned down for concealed carry permits under our city's strict interpretation of gun laws, while these shannanigans are going on? Where are the anti gun people on this? I think its a travesty and I'm for sensible gun laws including sentencing firmly those who use them to victimize.

This anti-gun person is where I've always been and feel more strongly than ever: outlaw guns.

I feel no safer knowing some "law enforcement trained DC resident" may be sitting next to me on the Metro.

More afraid you're the guy who's going to shoot my son while he's on a jog around the neighborhood because you think he looks suspicious and you fear for your life.

Violently-inclined criminals are famous for obeying gun laws. That's why cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark and Baltimore are so safe - they've got all of those anti-gun laws keeping you feeling fuzzy about being there.

It's working, right? Chicago only has an all-time high of 700 murders this year.

The problem isn't with the anti-gun laws, it's that they are not uniformly applied. All a kid from Chicago has to do is take a half hour trip to Indiana and there he can get a gun at a gun show via private buy with zero background check.

Guns or no guns these young thugs get in groups of 3 or more to kick in heads bash skulls againdt concrete. Maybe its not the guns but that they know they will get a slap on the wrist for it if its in a lib city?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4012164/Three-men-violently-attack-rob-man-Washington-D-C-leaving-unconscious-street.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post has now run two days of fairly incredible reporting on the revolving door which is DC sentencing and rehabilitation guidelines for youth under 22, up to and including repeat crimes with guns and in rare instances murder. One of the most striking techniques is for prosecutors to willingly label real guns used to commit crimes (ie being held to peoples heads) as "imitation" to avoid automatic penalties. Law abiding law enforcement trained DC residents are being turned down for concealed carry permits under our city's strict interpretation of gun laws, while these shannanigans are going on? Where are the anti gun people on this? I think its a travesty and I'm for sensible gun laws including sentencing firmly those who use them to victimize.

This anti-gun person is where I've always been and feel more strongly than ever: outlaw guns.

I feel no safer knowing some "law enforcement trained DC resident" may be sitting next to me on the Metro.

More afraid you're the guy who's going to shoot my son while he's on a jog around the neighborhood because you think he looks suspicious and you fear for your life.

Violently-inclined criminals are famous for obeying gun laws. That's why cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark and Baltimore are so safe - they've got all of those anti-gun laws keeping you feeling fuzzy about being there.

It's working, right? Chicago only has an all-time high of 700 murders this year.

The problem isn't with the anti-gun laws, it's that they are not uniformly applied. All a kid from Chicago has to do is take a half hour trip to Indiana and there he can get a gun at a gun show via private buy with zero background check.

now inner-city youth are driving to Indiana to get their guns?

My suggestion is for you to lay off the drugs. Mellow out some. You're obviously not of sane mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Washington Post has now run two days of fairly incredible reporting on the revolving door which is DC sentencing and rehabilitation guidelines for youth under 22, up to and including repeat crimes with guns and in rare instances murder. One of the most striking techniques is for prosecutors to willingly label real guns used to commit crimes (ie being held to peoples heads) as "imitation" to avoid automatic penalties. Law abiding law enforcement trained DC residents are being turned down for concealed carry permits under our city's strict interpretation of gun laws, while these shannanigans are going on? Where are the anti gun people on this? I think its a travesty and I'm for sensible gun laws including sentencing firmly those who use them to victimize.

This anti-gun person is where I've always been and feel more strongly than ever: outlaw guns.

I feel no safer knowing some "law enforcement trained DC resident" may be sitting next to me on the Metro.

More afraid you're the guy who's going to shoot my son while he's on a jog around the neighborhood because you think he looks suspicious and you fear for your life.

Violently-inclined criminals are famous for obeying gun laws. That's why cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark and Baltimore are so safe - they've got all of those anti-gun laws keeping you feeling fuzzy about being there.

It's working, right? Chicago only has an all-time high of 700 murders this year.

The problem isn't with the anti-gun laws, it's that they are not uniformly applied. All a kid from Chicago has to do is take a half hour trip to Indiana and there he can get a gun at a gun show via private buy with zero background check.

Why is Chicago known for so much crime, as opposed to Indiana's cities?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC has some of the MOST STRINGENT gun ownership/possession laws in the country. They'll put applications on hold for half a year before you can legally have a gun. The paperwork goat rope is ridiculous.

What gives?

Easy drive to VA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Violently-inclined criminals are famous for obeying gun laws. That's why cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark and Baltimore are so safe - they've got all of those anti-gun laws keeping you feeling fuzzy about being there.

It's working, right? Chicago only has an all-time high of 700 murders this year.

Those cities are surrounded by areas without such laws. Islands like Hawaii (and Japan, among others) show what happens when it's very difficult to bring weapons into a territory. So, if anti-weapon policies could expand beyond these cities, that should deliver results.

My house was built over 100 years ago, like many rowhouses in DC. Anything built before 1970 has lead in it. Yet, my children are not super-preditors. Instead they are scholars, musicians, and athletes.

Is the lead paint flaking, and/or do you have the means to prevent/repair that? Many are not so fortunate. There's also the matter of environmental racism affecting the locations of pollution sources, and things like the massive hate crime that is Flint's water crisis.

We are aware of the overall Great Crime Decline, right? It seems so, since most of the focus is on the specific matter of DC youth gun crime.

I really hate it when the environment gets all racist. It needs some fricking diversity training!!