Ted Cruz

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Anonymous wrote:Marco Rubio: "Ted Cruz, you used to say you supported doubling the number of green cards, now you say that you’re against it. You used to support a 500 percent increase in the number of guest workers, now you say that you’re against it. You used to support legalizing people that were here illegally, now you say you’re against it. You used to say that you were in favor of birthright citizenship, now you say that you are against it."


That was interesting. Rubio was relatively low key throughout most of the debate, and then, as the debate was winding down, he suddenly pulled a whole bunch of serious ammunition out and painted Cruz as a major flipflopper and pandering hypocrite. Cruz tried waving it off as "oppo research folder" (um no, Mr. Cruz, that's your ACTUAL PUBLIC RECORD) and couldn't even respond coherently to any of it.
takoma
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Concerning the citizenship issue: Cruz is clearly a citizen by birth, but not a native born citizen. The Constitutional term "natural born" citizen has never been adjudicated by the Supreme Court. Until that happens, or someone like Cruz sets a precedent by slipping into the Presidency without a legal challenge, whether it means native born or citizen by birth, or even, as suggested last night by Cruz, whether it includes both parents being citizens, is not determined. I don't agree with Trump on many things, but getting a definite ruling on this seems like a good idea for Cruz and all of us.
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takoma wrote:Concerning the citizenship issue: Cruz is clearly a citizen by birth, but not a native born citizen. The Constitutional term "natural born" citizen has never been adjudicated by the Supreme Court. Until that happens, or someone like Cruz sets a precedent by slipping into the Presidency without a legal challenge, whether it means native born or citizen by birth, or even, as suggested last night by Cruz, whether it includes both parents being citizens, is not determined. I don't agree with Trump on many things, but getting a definite ruling on this seems like a good idea for Cruz and all of us.

Exactly. This will need to be settled once and for all as there will be future candidates with the same citizen issue. And it would be great to put an end to the rants and ravings of birthers and their hypocrisy.
Anonymous
In another extreme display of assholery, Ted Cruz "apologizes" to New Yorkers for his comments on their values:
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ted-cruz-lame-apology-new-york-values-comments-article-1.2498549
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takoma wrote:Concerning the citizenship issue: Cruz is clearly a citizen by birth, but not a native born citizen. The Constitutional term "natural born" citizen has never been adjudicated by the Supreme Court. Until that happens, or someone like Cruz sets a precedent by slipping into the Presidency without a legal challenge, whether it means native born or citizen by birth, or even, as suggested last night by Cruz, whether it includes both parents being citizens, is not determined. I don't agree with Trump on many things, but getting a definite ruling on this seems like a good idea for Cruz and all of us.


Cruz won't slip into the Presidency. And no court would touch this with a 100 foot pole. Google "political question doctrine." It's up to the voters to decide whether someone born to a Cuban father in Canada is qualified to be CIC.
Anonymous
Cruz is the guy who at Harvard Law School started a study group that was only open to Harvard, Yale and Princeton grads, because he didn't want anyone from lesser Ivies. It's fun to watch him suck up to people whom he probably doesn't think are fit to lick his cowboy boots. And it'll be fun to watch the whores who join his cabinet for the prestige quit in a huff after a few months because he's an arrogant asshole who's impossible to work with.

At Harvard Law School, Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, would only study with pals from other Ivy elites.

"He said he didn't want anybody from 'minor Ivies' like Penn or Brown," law-school roommate Damon Watson told GQ Magazine.


http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/09/23/ted-cruz-only-wanted-study-buddies-from-princeton-harvard-and-yale
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takoma wrote:Concerning the citizenship issue: Cruz is clearly a citizen by birth, but not a native born citizen. The Constitutional term "natural born" citizen has never been adjudicated by the Supreme Court. Until that happens, or someone like Cruz sets a precedent by slipping into the Presidency without a legal challenge, whether it means native born or citizen by birth, or even, as suggested last night by Cruz, whether it includes both parents being citizens, is not determined. I don't agree with Trump on many things, but getting a definite ruling on this seems like a good idea for Cruz and all of us.


Cruz won't slip into the Presidency. And no court would touch this with a 100 foot pole. Google "political question doctrine." It's up to the voters to decide whether someone born to a Cuban father in Canada is qualified to be CIC.


Wow, I think the opposite - that this is a question of law for a judge rather than a question of fact for the jury. We shall see.
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And it'll be fun to watch the whores who join his cabinet for the prestige quit in a huff after a few months because he's an arrogant asshole who's impossible to work with.


That won't be fun at ALL, because it will mean that Cruz is president [shudder].
Anonymous
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And it'll be fun to watch the whores who join his cabinet for the prestige quit in a huff after a few months because he's an arrogant asshole who's impossible to work with.


That won't be fun at ALL, because it will mean that Cruz is president [shudder].


There is no doubt that Cruz is a smart guy, but I'm not sure where his arrogance comes from. For all his debate experience and courtroom experience at the highest levels he did not fare that well against Donald, a man with a mere undergrad degree from what Cruz would call a lesser-Ivy.
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Anonymous wrote:
And it'll be fun to watch the whores who join his cabinet for the prestige quit in a huff after a few months because he's an arrogant asshole who's impossible to work with.


That won't be fun at ALL, because it will mean that Cruz is president [shudder].


There is no doubt that Cruz is a smart guy, but I'm not sure where his arrogance comes from. For all his debate experience and courtroom experience at the highest levels he did not fare that well against Donald, a man with a mere undergrad degree from what Cruz would call a lesser-Ivy.


Cruz doesn't have all that much courtroom experience. He cut his teeth as an appellate lawyer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
And it'll be fun to watch the whores who join his cabinet for the prestige quit in a huff after a few months because he's an arrogant asshole who's impossible to work with.


That won't be fun at ALL, because it will mean that Cruz is president [shudder].


The only cabinet Cruz will ever have is the one above his kitchen sink.
Anonymous
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takoma wrote:Concerning the citizenship issue: Cruz is clearly a citizen by birth, but not a native born citizen. The Constitutional term "natural born" citizen has never been adjudicated by the Supreme Court. Until that happens, or someone like Cruz sets a precedent by slipping into the Presidency without a legal challenge, whether it means native born or citizen by birth, or even, as suggested last night by Cruz, whether it includes both parents being citizens, is not determined. I don't agree with Trump on many things, but getting a definite ruling on this seems like a good idea for Cruz and all of us.


Cruz won't slip into the Presidency. And no court would touch this with a 100 foot pole. Google "political question doctrine." It's up to the voters to decide whether someone born to a Cuban father in Canada is qualified to be CIC.


Wow, I think the opposite - that this is a question of law for a judge rather than a question of fact for the jury. We shall see.


Please explain how a litigant overcomes the barriers to obtaining jurisdiction, including standing, justiciability, and the political question doctrine. This is a silly distraction but some Americans might actually learn something about the Constitution other than the Second Amendment.
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Anonymous wrote:
takoma wrote:Concerning the citizenship issue: Cruz is clearly a citizen by birth, but not a native born citizen. The Constitutional term "natural born" citizen has never been adjudicated by the Supreme Court. Until that happens, or someone like Cruz sets a precedent by slipping into the Presidency without a legal challenge, whether it means native born or citizen by birth, or even, as suggested last night by Cruz, whether it includes both parents being citizens, is not determined. I don't agree with Trump on many things, but getting a definite ruling on this seems like a good idea for Cruz and all of us.


Cruz won't slip into the Presidency. And no court would touch this with a 100 foot pole. Google "political question doctrine." It's up to the voters to decide whether someone born to a Cuban father in Canada is qualified to be CIC.


Wow, I think the opposite - that this is a question of law for a judge rather than a question of fact for the jury. We shall see.


Please explain how a litigant overcomes the barriers to obtaining jurisdiction, including standing, justiciability, and the political question doctrine. This is a silly distraction but some Americans might actually learn something about the Constitution other than the Second Amendment.


Every American is impacted by the actions of the President, thus to suggest that any citizen not be allowed standing to bring suit would be a farcical atrocity of justice.
Anonymous
Ted Cruz: To know him is to despise him.
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takoma wrote:Concerning the citizenship issue: Cruz is clearly a citizen by birth, but not a native born citizen. The Constitutional term "natural born" citizen has never been adjudicated by the Supreme Court. Until that happens, or someone like Cruz sets a precedent by slipping into the Presidency without a legal challenge, whether it means native born or citizen by birth, or even, as suggested last night by Cruz, whether it includes both parents being citizens, is not determined. I don't agree with Trump on many things, but getting a definite ruling on this seems like a good idea for Cruz and all of us.


Cruz won't slip into the Presidency. And no court would touch this with a 100 foot pole. Google "political question doctrine." It's up to the voters to decide whether someone born to a Cuban father in Canada is qualified to be CIC.


Wow, I think the opposite - that this is a question of law for a judge rather than a question of fact for the jury. We shall see.


Please explain how a litigant overcomes the barriers to obtaining jurisdiction, including standing, justiciability, and the political question doctrine. This is a silly distraction but some Americans might actually learn something about the Constitution other than the Second Amendment.


Heck, we have a whole political class that needed Heller to teach them about the Second Amendment. Good luck on "natural born".
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