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Anonymous wrote:No black curlers...

No, we tend to straighten. You're talking about hair right?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No black curlers...

No, we tend to straighten. You're talking about hair right?


http://www.olympic.org/curling
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Anonymous wrote:This whole thread is bizarre. Regardless of the role genetics may play, who cares what the statistical average is for my kids' race? The relevant factor would be their individual body and its ability. If they are fast, maybe they should be runners. If they are tall, maybe swimmers or basketball players. And if they really love a sport, they should do it even if their body isn't ideal for it. Because for nearly every one of them, the benefit of sports is in the discipline, the hard work, the focus, the teamwork, and the body development.

So really I don't care about belly buttons, either my kids' actual belly button location or it statistical likelihood to be somewhere based on skin color. I want my kids to participate in sports.


Yes! Thank you! Finally, the voice of reason.
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Anonymous wrote:Track is an interesting one when you look at the Olympics. Jamaicans and black Americans (including a Jamaican American) dominate the sprints. Middle distances are more varied in terms of nationalities and race. The distance events are dominated by Kenyans although a white American has done well in the 5000 meters and I think the 10000 meters. Jumping and throwing events have more Europeans and Russians than any of the running events. So there is probably a genetic element involved.


Darker skinned people are generally disadvantaged socioeconomically around the world. What would the Olympics be like if everyone had the same means? Hmm..


This.
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Anonymous wrote:My DS runs track but focuses on middle and long distances because the black kids are too good at and dominate the short distances. It's not about avoiding it, it's about finding what you can be good at. Look at the Olympic track athletes.


I think this is more it than anything. Black people are so naturally good at certain sports, that it can be initimidating - and maybe the white kid knows (or thinks) they don't have a chance. Less about not wanting to integrate.


Naturally good? Is this a genetics argument? It's in their genes, the way they like fried chicken and watermelon?

Could we see some scientific evidence of this natural goodness?


Don't be such a wiseass.
I don’t think “athleticism” is just a byword for black. What is meant by athleticism (as opposed to athletic ability, which is a much broader and more nebulous concept) is the ability to move one’s body quickly (in the sense of acceleration, change of direction, and top speed) and powerfully. This is largely a function biomechanics and musculo-tendon physiology and chemistry. Differences in physique and physiology clearly give blacks an advantage over whites in this respect and the word “athleticism” is applied to them much more often because they are much more likely to possess a high degree of “athleticism.”

Re physique, blacks and whites, when matched for SES variables, are virtually identical in average height, however, their physique and body proportions are much different. Blacks have shorter torsos, broader shoulders, smaller ribcages, narrower hips, and longer limbs (with comparative elongation of the distal segments). Fit samples of blacks and whites appear to be about the same weight on average (or perhaps blacks are marginally heavier), but fit blacks have on average less body fat, particularly on their limbs. It follows that blacks have a greater fat free body mass (i.e., bone, muscle and viscera) than whites. The smaller ribcage and narrower pelvis would indicate less viscera weight and indeed, blacks have been found to have substantially more total body musculature and denser, heavier bones than whites. This greater musculature is also distributed differently. Blacks show considerably more musculature in their glutes and thighs than whites, which gives a substantial advantage in locomotion. Blacks have also been shown to have on average greater cross sectional thickness in their limb musculature than whites, with the difference much greater in the proximal than distal limb segments. Naturally higher average testosterone levels and a greater number of testosterone receptors probably contribute to the leaner more heavily muscled physique of blacks compared to whites.

The average physiological differences give blacks a substantial advantage in athleticism. Narrower hips mean that locomotive force is applied closer to the center of the body’s mass, leading to greater biomechanical efficiency by putting a greater portion of the force generated into forward locomotion and causing less to be wasted in rotational force on the body (not to mention the smaller adjustments that have to be constantly made while running or walking to move the center of gravity towards the leg in contact with the ground). Longer limbs provide greater reach, stride length (both forward and lateral), and longer acceleration paths, both for imparting velocity to thrown objects and for accelerating one’s own body for jumping. The problem with long limbs is that they move the center of mass farther from the pivot point (i.e., the joint), causing greater torque and requiring more force to accelerate the limb or change its direction. However, here again black physique provides them with the best of both worlds. The heavy musculature concentrated in the hips and in the proximal segments keeps most of the mass close to the pivot point and provides a lot of force, and the relatively long, thin distal segments don’t create that much torque while still giving the benefits of long reach, stride and acceleration paths. Blacks lower average body fat and viscera weight from comparatively short torsos with small ribcages provide a greater power to weight ratio and less top-heaviness, with a greater portion of their mass being located in the musculature of the hips and thighs, which provide locomotive power.

Muscle and tendon physiology also contribute to black “athleticism.” It is well publicized that blacks have a higher percentage of fast twitch muscle fibers and higher levels of glycotic and phosphogenic enzyme activity levels, when diet and activity levels are controlled for, which would provide an advantage in explosive, short-duration muscular exertions. Additionally, blacks have comparatively long tendons and short muscle bellies compared to total muscle-tendon length compared to whites. When doing repetitive movements like running, the muscle and tendon of the opposing muscle group to contracting muscles are stretched, which stores energy like an elastic band, which is then added to the backstroke as the opposing muscles contract back. (Try taking an appendage such as a finger and stretching it back and notice how it snaps back to its resting position when you release it to see this stored energy effect.) Tendons are more elastic than muscles and contribute more to this effect. Blacks’ comparatively longer tendons would give them comparatively greater energy storage and retransfer while running, causing them to spend less energy and be more efficient. It is also established that blacks have greater muscle elasticity as well as proportionally longer tendons (their tendon elasticity is about the same as whites).


Hmmm, this is one of these things wgere they look at a feature then come up with an explanation of how that feature enhances performance. I think that the differences have to do with hard work mostly.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My DS runs track but focuses on middle and long distances because the black kids are too good at and dominate the short distances. It's not about avoiding it, it's about finding what you can be good at. Look at the Olympic track athletes.


I think this is more it than anything. Black people are so naturally good at certain sports, that it can be initimidating - and maybe the white kid knows (or thinks) they don't have a chance. Less about not wanting to integrate.


Naturally good? Is this a genetics argument? It's in their genes, the way they like fried chicken and watermelon?

Could we see some scientific evidence of this natural goodness?


Don't be such a wiseass.
I don’t think “athleticism” is just a byword for black. What is meant by athleticism (as opposed to athletic ability, which is a much broader and more nebulous concept) is the ability to move one’s body quickly (in the sense of acceleration, change of direction, and top speed) and powerfully. This is largely a function biomechanics and musculo-tendon physiology and chemistry. Differences in physique and physiology clearly give blacks an advantage over whites in this respect and the word “athleticism” is applied to them much more often because they are much more likely to possess a high degree of “athleticism.”

Re physique, blacks and whites, when matched for SES variables, are virtually identical in average height, however, their physique and body proportions are much different. Blacks have shorter torsos, broader shoulders, smaller ribcages, narrower hips, and longer limbs (with comparative elongation of the distal segments). Fit samples of blacks and whites appear to be about the same weight on average (or perhaps blacks are marginally heavier), but fit blacks have on average less body fat, particularly on their limbs. It follows that blacks have a greater fat free body mass (i.e., bone, muscle and viscera) than whites. The smaller ribcage and narrower pelvis would indicate less viscera weight and indeed, blacks have been found to have substantially more total body musculature and denser, heavier bones than whites. This greater musculature is also distributed differently. Blacks show considerably more musculature in their glutes and thighs than whites, which gives a substantial advantage in locomotion. Blacks have also been shown to have on average greater cross sectional thickness in their limb musculature than whites, with the difference much greater in the proximal than distal limb segments. Naturally higher average testosterone levels and a greater number of testosterone receptors probably contribute to the leaner more heavily muscled physique of blacks compared to whites.

The average physiological differences give blacks a substantial advantage in athleticism. Narrower hips mean that locomotive force is applied closer to the center of the body’s mass, leading to greater biomechanical efficiency by putting a greater portion of the force generated into forward locomotion and causing less to be wasted in rotational force on the body (not to mention the smaller adjustments that have to be constantly made while running or walking to move the center of gravity towards the leg in contact with the ground). Longer limbs provide greater reach, stride length (both forward and lateral), and longer acceleration paths, both for imparting velocity to thrown objects and for accelerating one’s own body for jumping. The problem with long limbs is that they move the center of mass farther from the pivot point (i.e., the joint), causing greater torque and requiring more force to accelerate the limb or change its direction. However, here again black physique provides them with the best of both worlds. The heavy musculature concentrated in the hips and in the proximal segments keeps most of the mass close to the pivot point and provides a lot of force, and the relatively long, thin distal segments don’t create that much torque while still giving the benefits of long reach, stride and acceleration paths. Blacks lower average body fat and viscera weight from comparatively short torsos with small ribcages provide a greater power to weight ratio and less top-heaviness, with a greater portion of their mass being located in the musculature of the hips and thighs, which provide locomotive power.

Muscle and tendon physiology also contribute to black “athleticism.” It is well publicized that blacks have a higher percentage of fast twitch muscle fibers and higher levels of glycotic and phosphogenic enzyme activity levels, when diet and activity levels are controlled for, which would provide an advantage in explosive, short-duration muscular exertions. Additionally, blacks have comparatively long tendons and short muscle bellies compared to total muscle-tendon length compared to whites. When doing repetitive movements like running, the muscle and tendon of the opposing muscle group to contracting muscles are stretched, which stores energy like an elastic band, which is then added to the backstroke as the opposing muscles contract back. (Try taking an appendage such as a finger and stretching it back and notice how it snaps back to its resting position when you release it to see this stored energy effect.) Tendons are more elastic than muscles and contribute more to this effect. Blacks’ comparatively longer tendons would give them comparatively greater energy storage and retransfer while running, causing them to spend less energy and be more efficient. It is also established that blacks have greater muscle elasticity as well as proportionally longer tendons (their tendon elasticity is about the same as whites).


Hmmm, this is one of these things wgere they look at a feature then come up with an explanation of how that feature enhances performance. I think that the differences have to do with hard work mostly.


Don't bother responding to the earlier poster. He plagiarized that explanation from the web without attribution. It is unlikely he understands what he pretended to write.
Anonymous
FYI any time you see a very long post that you suspect was lifted, copy a whole paragraph and paste it into a google search query. Chances are you will find the real source, which in the above case is a blog comment by an "expert?" named Philly Guy.
Anonymous
Oh my. Just Googled a chunk of the text, as suggested by the PP.

The PP who originally posted it posted a BLOG COMMENT from a race-obsessed website. It was a freaking comment and the PP used it as evidence for her theory.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Oh my. Just Googled a chunk of the text, as suggested by the PP.

The PP who originally posted it posted a BLOG COMMENT from a race-obsessed website. It was a freaking comment and the PP used it as evidence for her theory.


Yeah, I'm the poster who originally responded to the person who posted that crap. I figured that out when she refused to even give the URL and then accused me of being angry when I politely asked for it. Bahahaha. Racists are so stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:Not the 1950s swimming poster but maybe these are kids who grew up in households where the parents did not learn to swim. So the kids may be less likely to learn how to swim and go swimming also.


I'm black and this is the case in my family. I can't swim, but I am making a concentrated effort to make sure my children are comfortable in the water. I want to take lessons, but I am pretty fearful in the water (highest I feel comfortable is about 2').


Really? Are you 2'6" tall?
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This thread makes me think that Jimmy the Greek and Al Campanis get awesome internet connections in the afterlife. Jesus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh my. Just Googled a chunk of the text, as suggested by the PP.

The PP who originally posted it posted a BLOG COMMENT from a race-obsessed website. It was a freaking comment and the PP used it as evidence for her theory.


Yeah, I'm the poster who originally responded to the person who posted that crap. I figured that out when she refused to even give the URL and then accused me of being angry when I politely asked for it. Bahahaha. Racists are so stupid.


Yeah, no wonder the PP was so hostile when others simply asked her to provid a link to her source.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Meh, I am white and have wondered if white kids might avoid football and basketball bc they feel that being white will be a disadvantage and they might not make the team so why bother. And I live in a very white suburb.


Exactly clearly this is what Ben Rotgelesberger, Tim Tebow, and whatshisface married to the model but had the outta wedlock baby with the actress did.
Sigh.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not the 1950s swimming poster but maybe these are kids who grew up in households where the parents did not learn to swim. So the kids may be less likely to learn how to swim and go swimming also.


I'm black and this is the case in my family. I can't swim, but I am making a concentrated effort to make sure my children are comfortable in the water. I want to take lessons, but I am pretty fearful in the water (highest I feel comfortable is about 2').


Really? Are you 2'6" tall?


Wholly F! I'm black middle aged and swim like a fish. Prefer beach/ water to land. My white polish ex can't swim.
I was confused when he told me.
I can swim enough for me I can't save a grown white boy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meh, I am white and have wondered if white kids might avoid football and basketball bc they feel that being white will be a disadvantage and they might not make the team so why bother. And I live in a very white suburb.


Exactly clearly this is what Ben Rotgelesberger, Tim Tebow, and whatshisface married to the model but had the outta wedlock baby with the actress did.
Sigh.


Roethelesberger
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