Do you discuss politics with your partner?

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Anonymous wrote:How often? Are you generally aligned?

Yes, daily and we’re pretty much aligned on everything. As far as where we stand politically - we’re both, yet neither.

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Anonymous wrote:We have discussed it yes.
No we do not align totally, on some things yes on others no.

Based on my education and job, I will be much more involved in the details and ramifications of policy then my partner- and that is ok with both of us.

In the end, we are both adults with our own life experiences and opinions. We do no base our relationship on something as trivial as politics.

Its the differences that make us stronger, not the similarity - its called being open minded and able to have your partner influence you.

We have never in the history of this country experienced anything like we are currently experiencing. There is nothing that would open my mind to a sexual predator, kleptomaniac, felon, demented lunatic with zero regard for the law.

One, I am quite perplexed by your reply to my post. What is the correlation?
Two, no excusing anything of the current administration. However, you do seem a bit ignorant of the history of our past political leaders, if you think this is a "never before" situation. There have been plenty of questionable men with questionable actions in power in this country.

Please let me know when in the history of this country we have had a convicted felon, a guy who incited an insurrection and had been involved in a child trafficking circle as president before. Not to mention all of the blatant corruption since he took office.

One, you did not answer my first question. Please feel free to at your leisure.
Two, you sound like a wonderful person. I bet you a lot of fun at parties.
Three, to answer your question(s):
I mentioned political leaders and have a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
I believe the first 5 presidents were involved in an insurrection in the country. Kinda why we are here?
Additionally, the modification of the Articles of Confederation to the Constitution, left an open theoretical question as to its ratification. There was at least a two year period where only 9 states ratified and all 13 were necessary per the rules of the AOC. Therefore, anyone involved in the US government during those two years was involved in an insurrection against the country.
I believe Bill Clinton was involved with JE too. Sorry not going to use that man's name.

Nice deflection but your Wikipedia link just proves what I said. We have never before elected a felon to the presidency.

No sitting president of this country has incited an insurrection against his duly elected opponent in the history of this country.

Also, I don't care what democrat might be on the list. I want them all held accountable for their crimes. See how easy that was for me?

I in no way deflected, you narrowed the scope after my post, as I clearly said "political leaders" prior to your post narrowing things to DT.

Again, you have narrowed the scope to prove yourself right by adding the additional qualifications after the fact. You clearly state above "a guy who incited an insurrection", those were your words above correct? Did you not add the additional qualifications after my post? Did I not list 5 who meet your original statement?

So, you do agree that your statement of "never before" on the JE question is incorrect and WJC was involved with JE. I am happy that you want all of them held accountable regardless of political party.

See how easy that was for me?

If you would like to continue, we can. However, adding in additional qualifications and modifying your position on the fly leads me to believe that you are someone who operates from pure emotion and speaks before they think. I would suggest you take a moment, clearly think of your position and then transfer those thoughts into a clear and concise statement(s). Therefore you will not need to go back and try to prove yourself right after the fact. This is very immature and unbecoming
Or you could simplify it and say: "Yes, you did give examples of where my "never before" was incorrect, but here is what I really meant..."

I very clearly said "as president" in my post. So I was clear about what I was talking about and you tried to deflect and gaslight by posting a link about other politicians who were convicted of crimes. You either can't read or are intentionally trying to mislead. Either way, the fact of what I originally said stands.

Your dumb rantings aren't proving anything. Clinton was not elected to office under suspicion of being involved with JE. He was impeached for lying under oath (and rightfully so) for his involvement with ML. You can keep talking about a guy who has not held office in nearly 30 years in order to further deflect from a fact that you elected a felon and a pedophile. You're not going to distract me, though. Trump is the most corrupt president we have ever had and nothing like this has ever happened before.

I know your kind really likes alternative facts but our side deals in actual facts.

I will let others judge who is "ranting" by the attacks. I am clearly stating facts that you don't seem to like, sorry about that.
I elected a felon and pedo? "My Kind"? I don't believe I voted for either DT, JB, KH in any of the recent elections. Nice try though.

"....nothing like this has ever happened before." Um, yes it has, see the above posts

"If absolute truth belongs to anyone in this world, it certainly does not belong to the man or party that claims to possess it." - Camus

What facts? What above posts? Your only link mentioned other government employees that have been convicted but it doesn't disprove what I said, which is that we have never had convicted felon as president. I clearly said that in my original post and you can't disprove it because it's true.

And your long diatribe about this, that and the other is now boiled down to just felon.

Yes, I can say you are correct on that, while also being so wrong about the rest of what you posted- welcome to paradox.
Your original quote: "There is nothing that would open my mind to a sexual predator, kleptomaniac, felon, demented lunatic with zero regard for the law"

There are 5 things you mention as unprecedented, never before, OMG the "sky is falling" and out of those 5 only one is unique to the current "never before" situation.

Additionally, you stated: Please let me know when in the history of this country we have had a convicted felon, a guy who incited an insurrection and had been involved in a child trafficking circle as president before. Not to mention all of the blatant corruption since he took office.
Here there are 4 unprecedented claims and I believe I debunked 3 of the 4.

I'm sorry you level of "never before, unprecedented" is not mine based on your statements. It does seem like using your own words like you said:
Statement 1= 1 of 5 never before (20%)
Statement 2= 1 of 4 never before (25%)

Put down the phone and pick up a history book- you see things in very dichotomous thinking regarding politics. Both parties are wrong and corrupt. When you start to see the wrong on both sides, stop voting straight D (or R) and find real candidates, come talk to me. Your "never before" are common place as I see them, on both sides.

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Anonymous wrote:We have discussed it yes.
No we do not align totally, on some things yes on others no.

Based on my education and job, I will be much more involved in the details and ramifications of policy then my partner- and that is ok with both of us.

In the end, we are both adults with our own life experiences and opinions. We do no base our relationship on something as trivial as politics.

Its the differences that make us stronger, not the similarity - its called being open minded and able to have your partner influence you.

We have never in the history of this country experienced anything like we are currently experiencing. There is nothing that would open my mind to a sexual predator, kleptomaniac, felon, demented lunatic with zero regard for the law.

One, I am quite perplexed by your reply to my post. What is the correlation?
Two, no excusing anything of the current administration. However, you do seem a bit ignorant of the history of our past political leaders, if you think this is a "never before" situation. There have been plenty of questionable men with questionable actions in power in this country.

Please let me know when in the history of this country we have had a convicted felon, a guy who incited an insurrection and had been involved in a child trafficking circle as president before. Not to mention all of the blatant corruption since he took office.

One, you did not answer my first question. Please feel free to at your leisure.
Two, you sound like a wonderful person. I bet you a lot of fun at parties.
Three, to answer your question(s):
I mentioned political leaders and have a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
I believe the first 5 presidents were involved in an insurrection in the country. Kinda why we are here?
Additionally, the modification of the Articles of Confederation to the Constitution, left an open theoretical question as to its ratification. There was at least a two year period where only 9 states ratified and all 13 were necessary per the rules of the AOC. Therefore, anyone involved in the US government during those two years was involved in an insurrection against the country.
I believe Bill Clinton was involved with JE too. Sorry not going to use that man's name.

Nice deflection but your Wikipedia link just proves what I said. We have never before elected a felon to the presidency.

No sitting president of this country has incited an insurrection against his duly elected opponent in the history of this country.

Also, I don't care what democrat might be on the list. I want them all held accountable for their crimes. See how easy that was for me?

I in no way deflected, you narrowed the scope after my post, as I clearly said "political leaders" prior to your post narrowing things to DT.

Again, you have narrowed the scope to prove yourself right by adding the additional qualifications after the fact. You clearly state above "a guy who incited an insurrection", those were your words above correct? Did you not add the additional qualifications after my post? Did I not list 5 who meet your original statement?

So, you do agree that your statement of "never before" on the JE question is incorrect and WJC was involved with JE. I am happy that you want all of them held accountable regardless of political party.

See how easy that was for me?

If you would like to continue, we can. However, adding in additional qualifications and modifying your position on the fly leads me to believe that you are someone who operates from pure emotion and speaks before they think. I would suggest you take a moment, clearly think of your position and then transfer those thoughts into a clear and concise statement(s). Therefore you will not need to go back and try to prove yourself right after the fact. This is very immature and unbecoming
Or you could simplify it and say: "Yes, you did give examples of where my "never before" was incorrect, but here is what I really meant..."

I very clearly said "as president" in my post. So I was clear about what I was talking about and you tried to deflect and gaslight by posting a link about other politicians who were convicted of crimes. You either can't read or are intentionally trying to mislead. Either way, the fact of what I originally said stands.

Your dumb rantings aren't proving anything. Clinton was not elected to office under suspicion of being involved with JE. He was impeached for lying under oath (and rightfully so) for his involvement with ML. You can keep talking about a guy who has not held office in nearly 30 years in order to further deflect from a fact that you elected a felon and a pedophile. You're not going to distract me, though. Trump is the most corrupt president we have ever had and nothing like this has ever happened before.

I know your kind really likes alternative facts but our side deals in actual facts.

I will let others judge who is "ranting" by the attacks. I am clearly stating facts that you don't seem to like, sorry about that.
I elected a felon and pedo? "My Kind"? I don't believe I voted for either DT, JB, KH in any of the recent elections. Nice try though.

"....nothing like this has ever happened before." Um, yes it has, see the above posts

"If absolute truth belongs to anyone in this world, it certainly does not belong to the man or party that claims to possess it." - Camus

What facts? What above posts? Your only link mentioned other government employees that have been convicted but it doesn't disprove what I said, which is that we have never had convicted felon as president. I clearly said that in my original post and you can't disprove it because it's true.

And your long diatribe about this, that and the other is now boiled down to just felon.

Yes, I can say you are correct on that, while also being so wrong about the rest of what you posted- welcome to paradox.
Your original quote: "There is nothing that would open my mind to a sexual predator, kleptomaniac, felon, demented lunatic with zero regard for the law"

There are 5 things you mention as unprecedented, never before, OMG the "sky is falling" and out of those 5 only one is unique to the current "never before" situation.

Additionally, you stated: Please let me know when in the history of this country we have had a convicted felon, a guy who incited an insurrection and had been involved in a child trafficking circle as president before. Not to mention all of the blatant corruption since he took office.
Here there are 4 unprecedented claims and I believe I debunked 3 of the 4.

I'm sorry you level of "never before, unprecedented" is not mine based on your statements. It does seem like using your own words like you said:
Statement 1= 1 of 5 never before (20%)
Statement 2= 1 of 4 never before (25%)

Put down the phone and pick up a history book- you see things in very dichotomous thinking regarding politics. Both parties are wrong and corrupt. When you start to see the wrong on both sides, stop voting straight D (or R) and find real candidates, come talk to me. Your "never before" are common place as I see them, on both sides.

Absolutely and categorically no. Both sides are NOT the same. Only one side participated in an insurrection. Only one side supports the monster we have now without any reservation, no matter what he does. We are not the same. You can "there are fine people on both sides" all you want. It's what you do to justify lawlessness and cruelty. Eff all the way off. I'm done being police to fascists.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope.

I’m very liberal, he’s very conservative. I’m an atheist, he’s evangelical Christian.

Overall we don’t really argue, and always approach each other with a sense of curiosity rather than judgement. We talk about religion a bit, and I never try to argue, ridicule, or convince him. Instead I try to focus on what it means to him personally.

I could see us discussing politics in the same way - not arguing, more understanding - but we honestly just don’t like talking politics. There’s so much more to talk about, and politics just gets people stressed out.

While I'm not saying you're untruthful, I find this hard to believe. Evangelical christians believe that they are here to "save" people. Not let them be, and certainly not let them be atheist. You said many things in your post. At least one of the things you said cannot be true.