Olivia Nuzzi on her relationship with RFK Jr.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Something that was a little unclear from the Lizza piece. Did they stay together after the Mark Sanford thing or was that right before the RFK jr scandal?

Also men are so gross. All it takes is a few messages from a mid blonde.

Also what's missing is how he/they afforded a multi-million dollar pad in Georgetown on DC journalist salaries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've never read an Olivia Nuzzi piece and IDGAF about her petty journalist ex. I have no problem at all with a woman using these nasty men the way they use women. Were any of these older men pursuing a much younger woman for love? Give me a break. The way society gets so upset when a woman decides to be strategic is exhausting.

It’s called basic ethics. What is wrong with you? She and the gross old men that used her are all corrupt and immoral.

All of the gross old men who used her for attention and sex are still in their positions of prominence, but she's supposed to be jobless and out in the cold forever? Go suck Olbermann's left nutsack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something that was a little unclear from the Lizza piece. Did they stay together after the Mark Sanford thing or was that right before the RFK jr scandal?

Also men are so gross. All it takes is a few messages from a mid blonde.

Also what's missing is how he/they afforded a multi-million dollar pad in Georgetown on DC journalist salaries.

He's a money-hungry chump who was happy to live off the proceeds of his girlfriend's success with older men and then wants to play victim now that their scheme is public. A complete loser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, Olivia Nuzzi had another affair with another 30+ older man.

Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, Olivia Nuzzi had another affair with another 30+ older man.

Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've never read an Olivia Nuzzi piece and IDGAF about her petty journalist ex. I have no problem at all with a woman using these nasty men the way they use women. Were any of these older men pursuing a much younger woman for love? Give me a break. The way society gets so upset when a woman decides to be strategic is exhausting.

It’s called basic ethics. What is wrong with you? She and the gross old men that used her are all corrupt and immoral.

All of the gross old men who used her for attention and sex are still in their positions of prominence, but she's supposed to be jobless and out in the cold forever? Go suck Olbermann's left nutsack.

Um, she has a new job and a new book. Other than that, though…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've never read an Olivia Nuzzi piece and IDGAF about her petty journalist ex. I have no problem at all with a woman using these nasty men the way they use women. Were any of these older men pursuing a much younger woman for love? Give me a break. The way society gets so upset when a woman decides to be strategic is exhausting.

I don’t blame her for being strategic. I blame her for being an idiot. Sleeping your way up the ladder with bigger and bigger fish is like trying to graduate from being a low level drug dealer to the middle-man who moves the shit. You see enough of the good life so you want a bigger piece. But then the little guys slinging 8-balls drop a dime on you, and the guy above you making the real money says he never met you. So when you go down, you go down hard, and everyone else walks away whistling.

This was a bad game for her to play and lose. And before anyone points to her NYTs puff piece or book deal, I’ll just say that that stuff has a funny way of drying up when you’re no longer photogenic. There’s nothing that these people crave more that legitimacy. That becomes harder to prove when it wasn’t there from the beginning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh my god, Olivia Nuzzi had another affair with another 30+ older man.

Here's the original reveal from her ex, Ryan Lizza: https://www.telos.news/p/part-1-how-i-found-out

Lol. Ryan is a messy b-tch for this and he definitely hasn't moved on.

I enjoyed reading Ryan’s piece, it’s always helpful to get the other side of the story. But this guy doesn’t get a pass from me. Nuzzi was messy af. But Lizza and Nuzzi were both clout-chasers who mutually benefited from each other’s looks, position, and access. Lizza unfortunately miscalculated that Olivia would try to level up eventually; something that was obvious to anybody who knew about the Olberman history. Nuzzi was (is) a creature for whom lifeblood is attention and death is irrelevance. Each jump to next rock was a more powerful guy, no matter how gross. This makes sense when you realize that the guy isn’t a guy, he’s a path to survival. Nuzzi’s writing skills are always presented as some sort of defense of her actions; as if being skilled at something, anything, somehow reorients the moral framework around which choices should be made. She’s a good writer. She also decided rules of journalism didn’t apply to her. That’s a problem. She’s odd person to lionize until you realize that the media folks writing about her in the press, defending her on X, and giving her book deals are men. It sounds too simple and dumb to be an explanation, but everyone still scratches their heads about how Elizabeth Holmes scammed investors out of millions of dollars.

No matter how compelling Lizza’s version of of events is, or how true, his piece reads as no more or less interesting than the story of any other guy smarting from losing the girl at the end of the movie. Juxtaposing his history with Nuzzi with the inclusion of his over the top love for his latest girlfriend is like that guy you go out on a date with who can’t stop talking about his ex: “you’re so beautiful! Also my ex was such a B, lemme tell you more about her”.

Being betrayed absolutely sucks and I’ve been there. But all of these people suffer from main character syndrome. There’s nothing extraordinary about a middle-aged guy’s 20-something girlfriend figuring out that there was a quicker elevator to the penthouse. Lizza is human, and deserving of empathy. But he ain’t special. My college roommate got dumped for an AP, and we got drunk, stalked her SM, then got up the next day and moved on with our lives. These folks should do the same.

Admittedly I didn't read all of this, but if you agree that Ryan Lizza is a nasty, greedy little b-tch for trying to turn his ex-girlfriend's saga into a come-up for himself while pretending to be above it all, then we agree.

Oh yes, we concur. I loved the part where he describes her angling for a wedding while he politely demures. Nothing says “I never wanted her” like a long-form article spilling all the deets a full year later.

YES. That part was a complete own goal on his part. Nothing says duplicitous snake like posing as the blindsided innocent victimized by a man-eating bimbo while admitting you led her on with no intention of marrying her. She was supposed to stay loyal to a man who was knowingly wasting what he knew she considered her prime marriageable years?

And the money-hungry, deeply envious way he catalogs the items she received from Olbermann is creepy as hell. He sounds a lot like an envious female competitor -- as if his real cause of his anger is that he isn't a woman who has the looks and game to attract financial and career support from successful older men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've never read an Olivia Nuzzi piece and IDGAF about her petty journalist ex. I have no problem at all with a woman using these nasty men the way they use women. Were any of these older men pursuing a much younger woman for love? Give me a break. The way society gets so upset when a woman decides to be strategic is exhausting.

I don’t blame her for being strategic. I blame her for being an idiot. Sleeping your way up the ladder with bigger and bigger fish is like trying to graduate from being a low level drug dealer to the middle-man who moves the shit. You see enough of the good life so you want a bigger piece. But then the little guys slinging 8-balls drop a dime on you, and the guy above you making the real money says he never met you. So when you go down, you go down hard, and everyone else walks away whistling.

This was a bad game for her to play and lose. And before anyone points to her NYTs puff piece or book deal, I’ll just say that that stuff has a funny way of drying up when you’re no longer photogenic. There’s nothing that these people crave more that legitimacy. That becomes harder to prove when it wasn’t there from the beginning.

You're really relishing her fall, huh? She didn't just spread her legs and end up with nothing to show beyond the slimy leavings of some aging loser's penis. She parlayed her attractiveness into advantages and that's why you scolds are angry with her, isn't it? How dare she not be stupid and let men use her the way so many of you women have? How dare she use men back when men are supposed to be able to use and discard women at will? Oh, well. Women are wising up. Deal with it. Well, I have a feeling she'll land just fine. For all her faults, I see a real brain working in that head of hers. She'll be fine. I hope you can deal with that.

[Anonymous]

This woman isn’t really that attractive. How does she have all these men fawning over her?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This woman isn’t really that attractive. How does she have all these men fawning over her?

That's the question that makes you all so angry. What you fail to understand is that older men are desperate and stupid users who construct consuming a young woman's vagina as a locus of rejuvenation for their waning penises. Her youth is what she offers and all she needs to offer. Pathetic, isn't it? But such is the nature of the aging male. All men age into degenerate losers who seek to cannibalize the young.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This woman isn’t really that attractive. How does she have all these men fawning over her?

+1000 she looks like handsome Squidward

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This woman isn’t really that attractive. How does she have all these men fawning over her?

The men she’s after aren’t attractive either. It’s a mid off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Something that was a little unclear from the Lizza piece. Did they stay together after the Mark Sanford thing or was that right before the RFK jr scandal?

Also men are so gross. All it takes is a few messages from a mid blonde.

Also what's missing is how he/they afforded a multi-million dollar pad in Georgetown on DC journalist salaries.

It sounds like he's born into wealth.

[Anonymous]

Do you guys think Olivia lurks here? This is a D.C. forum, after all.