New SOL Cut Offs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About time that there is a mechanism for holding schools and school systems accountable for actual achieving at least a low bar for students across Virginia.

Shut up, MAGA.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About time that there is a mechanism for holding schools and school systems accountable for actual achieving at least a low bar for students across Virginia.

Shut up, MAGA.

Got it, don’t care if your kids learn the bare minimum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About time that there is a mechanism for holding schools and school systems accountable for actual achieving at least a low bar for students across Virginia.

Shut up, MAGA.

Got it, don’t care if your kids learn the bare minimum.

I don’t believe state lawmakers have a right to make an exam that will count for 10% of my child’s final grade when they haven’t taught my child at all year. The teacher should be making the assessments. You don’t agree?

And what if the teacher goes rogue and doesn’t teach everything on the test? Then my child’s grade will suffer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About time that there is a mechanism for holding schools and school systems accountable for actual achieving at least a low bar for students across Virginia.

Shut up, MAGA.

Got it, don’t care if your kids learn the bare minimum.

As if you care about kids learning. F off. DP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like schools will do everything but actually examine their teaching methods to try to improve results. No amount of testing will fix the overreliance on computers, lack of homework, and lack of writing and research rigor.

Forcing them to to teach to a computerized test like this, if it becomes part of their final grade, will result in even more computer use and possibly all tests being given on the computer all year, multiple choice style in order to mimic the SOLs. This not good.

The SOL is not all multiple choice (at least for math). Look at the sample test in TestNav.

[Anonymous]

I don't agree with making these part of the grade given that I understand some of the questions are poor quality with sometimes ambiguous answers, but I don't have a problem with raising the standard to pass the test. When I looked into it last year, roughly a 50% raw score was needed to pass, which I find unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am horrified. My kid is not good with tests to begin with. He passed Math SOL with 420 and Science with 410. I can already see him struggling with Reading and Writing SOLs because he is not a good writer. They are setting kids like mine to fail.

Opt him out.

How do you opt a child out if it's 10% of their grade?

I have told my kids for years that the only purpose of the SOL is to test what and how the schools teach. It's not supposed to be a test of the students' abilities, and it's not supposed to be part of their grade. I am so angry.

So why do I have students that actually do their work and stay awake in class pass the SOL and those who don't do their work and sleep through class or miss weeks of school fail?

I hate to break it to you, but the SOL is a test of student's abilities, not my worthiness as a teacher. My pass rates vary greatly across my classes, depending on my students' abilities and level of caring.

To be fair, I have elementary schoolers and in that case it is 100% about the curriculum and what and how it is being taught.

[Anonymous]

This isn't about SOLs - which are supposed to be a reflection of standard knowledge, this is about Virginia having amongst the lowest standards in the country. What our ratings call "proficient" most the country considers failing. You can check out various data points https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/overview/va

https://assessmenthq.org/state/virginia/

The nations score card is how we are measured against other nations - and we are not leading there but worse, Virginia set the pass level absurdly low so we can all think we have advanced proficient kids that would be mapped totally differently in other states.

Personally I think its terrible we have such low standards. Its like vanity sizes on women's clothes - you can say you're a 6 when you are wearing what used to be a 12 or 14. To me, its just sad that FCPS fights this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't about SOLs - which are supposed to be a reflection of standard knowledge, this is about Virginia having amongst the lowest standards in the country. What our ratings call "proficient" most the country considers failing. You can check out various data points https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/overview/va

https://assessmenthq.org/state/virginia/

The nations score card is how we are measured against other nations - and we are not leading there but worse, Virginia set the pass level absurdly low so we can all think we have advanced proficient kids that would be mapped totally differently in other states.

Personally I think its terrible we have such low standards. Its like vanity sizes on women's clothes - you can say you're a 6 when you are wearing what used to be a 12 or 14. To me, its just sad that FCPS fights this.

But simply lowering the cut score (off cycle) doesn't fix anything. Schools need additional resources to help with struggling kids, not budget cuts like Youngkin proposed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't about SOLs - which are supposed to be a reflection of standard knowledge, this is about Virginia having amongst the lowest standards in the country. What our ratings call "proficient" most the country considers failing. You can check out various data points https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/overview/va

https://assessmenthq.org/state/virginia/

The nations score card is how we are measured against other nations - and we are not leading there but worse, Virginia set the pass level absurdly low so we can all think we have advanced proficient kids that would be mapped totally differently in other states.

Personally I think its terrible we have such low standards. Its like vanity sizes on women's clothes - you can say you're a 6 when you are wearing what used to be a 12 or 14. To me, its just sad that FCPS fights this.

But simply lowering the cut score (off cycle) doesn't fix anything. Schools need additional resources to help with struggling kids, not budget cuts like Youngkin proposed.

That is true, once they turn the lights on (align with other state score system) they will have to clean up the mess. They should still turn the lights on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This isn't about SOLs - which are supposed to be a reflection of standard knowledge, this is about Virginia having amongst the lowest standards in the country. What our ratings call "proficient" most the country considers failing. You can check out various data points https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/overview/va

https://assessmenthq.org/state/virginia/

The nations score card is how we are measured against other nations - and we are not leading there but worse, Virginia set the pass level absurdly low so we can all think we have advanced proficient kids that would be mapped totally differently in other states.

Personally I think its terrible we have such low standards. Its like vanity sizes on women's clothes - you can say you're a 6 when you are wearing what used to be a 12 or 14. To me, its just sad that FCPS fights this.

But simply lowering the cut score (off cycle) doesn't fix anything. Schools need additional resources to help with struggling kids, not budget cuts like Youngkin proposed.

That is true, once they turn the lights on (align with other state score system) they will have to clean up the mess. They should still turn the lights on.

While tying to grades and not giving time for retakes?

That’s not helping any kid.

It’s just political exploitation of our kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't about SOLs - which are supposed to be a reflection of standard knowledge, this is about Virginia having amongst the lowest standards in the country. What our ratings call "proficient" most the country considers failing. You can check out various data points https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/overview/va

https://assessmenthq.org/state/virginia/

The nations score card is how we are measured against other nations - and we are not leading there but worse, Virginia set the pass level absurdly low so we can all think we have advanced proficient kids that would be mapped totally differently in other states.

Personally I think its terrible we have such low standards. Its like vanity sizes on women's clothes - you can say you're a 6 when you are wearing what used to be a 12 or 14. To me, its just sad that FCPS fights this.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real impact? Kids who take the SOL for course credit might now fail and not get credit.

The more kids fail, the more craven MAGA will say that public education is failing and tax dollars should flow to private schools. You are witnessing the attempted dismantling of public education. Just watch where the money goes. See who is investing in private school companies and online curricula. This is the intended impact of these SOL cut score changes.

My hope is that Spanberger can get in there in January and shut this s h i t down.

Ah - the soft racism of low expectations raises its head. It’s you, PP, who is ultimately the vile racist here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:About time that there is a mechanism for holding schools and school systems accountable for actual achieving at least a low bar for students across Virginia.

+1000

The new SOL standard is long overdue. Don’t sell our children short with low expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This isn't about SOLs - which are supposed to be a reflection of standard knowledge, this is about Virginia having amongst the lowest standards in the country. What our ratings call "proficient" most the country considers failing. You can check out various data points https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile/overview/va

https://assessmenthq.org/state/virginia/

The nations score card is how we are measured against other nations - and we are not leading there but worse, Virginia set the pass level absurdly low so we can all think we have advanced proficient kids that would be mapped totally differently in other states.

Personally I think its terrible we have such low standards. Its like vanity sizes on women's clothes - you can say you're a 6 when you are wearing what used to be a 12 or 14. To me, its just sad that FCPS fights this.

Have you ever looked at SOL scores? The number of kids passing advanced is not that high.