Why old people are NOT like babies:

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Anonymous wrote:Babies have a certain charm about them that makes us want to take care of them. Old people don’t have that charm. They’re not “adorable”, and are therefore, no fun to be around.

True but you take care of your parents because you love them and they took care of you not because they are cute and fun.

What if an adult child doesn’t love their parents. Shouldn’t that be up to them? Besides, care flows downhill.

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Anonymous wrote:After 70 people should've option to end their lives in humane ways, instead of suffering and having the painful knowledge of being seen as a burden.

Agreed!

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Anonymous wrote:Caring for the elderly is a responsibility like caring for babies, though it’s harder in many ways that have been discussed. Helplessness and dependency are part of the human experience. It’s normal to feel resentment sometimes, but unrealistic to expect it to disappear.

Expect what to disappear?
At least don’t prolong the dependency by trying hard to live to 100

Whether you die of cancer in your 30s or Alzheimer’s in your 90s, you will be physically dependent on others for the weeks or months or years leading up to the end. It’s a fact of life. It’s immature and sad to be in denial of that fact, whether because you fear it for yourself or resent it in others.

Relatively few people are dependent on others in their 30s, stuff happens
But almost everyone is in some way dependent at 70+

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Anonymous wrote:I am not OP and I am a woman but I coincidentally have the same plan to be gone around 75. My kid will be 40 and hopefully my grandkid(s) past preschool years, and I don’t think I’ll be able to help out with babysitting so much anyway. My plan to carry it out is either a Swiss clinic with assisted suicide, or taking a bottle of vodka into the winter woods with me.

That’s insane. I know lots of 75 year olds that are in great shape and enjoying life. Why don’t you wait until you really start to fail? Societal hatred of the elderly is presumably driving a lot of these comments.

Most people I know who are 75+ are sure enjoying life but they are already starting to feel the gravity so to speak and becoming a burden on their kids in one way or another. My sample is probably skewed but I have no guarantee I won’t be like them. They are delusional considering themselves independent but their kids don’t have much but obligation towards them or some use them for benefits.
And no I don’t think society hates the elderly. I think it glorifies the old age and puts longevity above all else, at the expense of younger generations who need room to breathe.

Remember COVID?

That was exactly my point, they favored the elderly above all else.

Who is “they?”

And in actuality, millions of parents screamed for two years that their kids being in physical buildings was more important than the lives of “people who were going to die soon anyway.” Don’t even deny it. Take a stroll down memory lane by searching posts in the schools forums on DCUM in 2020.

The parents were right

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Read The Giver. It's a YA book and describes exactly how our society is becoming. Pay attn to what happens as soon as one crosses the age threshold.

We are losing our humanity daily. No, your millennial kids will not be caring for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Read The Giver. It's a YA book and describes exactly how our society is becoming. Pay attn to what happens as soon as one crosses the age threshold.

We are losing our humanity daily. No, your millennial kids will not be caring for you.

I won’t be expecting anyone to care for me when I’m old. If I can’t survive on my own, so be it. I don’t want to live past 75 at any rate.

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Some of you are going to think this is morbid but after watching and caring for many of our loved ones as they age, DH and I plan to do assisted suicide.

Our perspective could change, of course, but we’re pretty clear eyed about not wanting to live out the end of our lives the way our loved ones have. IMO, medical science has gotten too good at keeping our bodies alive well past the point that they should.

Reading about Daniel Kahneman’s choice to end his life when he did was inspirational to me and I think more people will choose this way after watching our parents and grandparents suffer for years.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of you are going to think this is morbid but after watching and caring for many of our loved ones as they age, DH and I plan to do assisted suicide.

Our perspective could change, of course, but we’re pretty clear eyed about not wanting to live out the end of our lives the way our loved ones have. IMO, medical science has gotten too good at keeping our bodies alive well past the point that they should.

Reading about Daniel Kahneman’s choice to end his life when he did was inspirational to me and I think more people will choose this way after watching our parents and grandparents suffer for years.

This is my plan too.

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Anonymous wrote:Read The Giver. It's a YA book and describes exactly how our society is becoming. Pay attn to what happens as soon as one crosses the age threshold.

We are losing our humanity daily. No, your millennial kids will not be caring for you.

I’m a millennial and plan on caring for my parents; but because I want to, not because I feel I have to. Just because I plan on caring for my parents doesn’t mean I think everyone else should. I think people should be allowed to decide for themselves if they want to care for their parents. I have my own beliefs, but I also respect differing beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:Read The Giver. It's a YA book and describes exactly how our society is becoming. Pay attn to what happens as soon as one crosses the age threshold.

We are losing our humanity daily. No, your millennial kids will not be caring for you.

I won’t be expecting anyone to care for me when I’m old. If I can’t survive on my own, so be it. I don’t want to live past 75 at any rate.

Most people are able to survive on their own in civilized countries, it’s the quality of life that matters. Lonely frail old people don’t have clean houses, their health is neglected because they can’t get to the dr and/or cant advocate for themselves, their nutrition is poor because they don’t have the money or can’t get to the store or can’t cook.
It’s easier when you are rich but hiring help requires executive function which is often gone.

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Anonymous wrote:Read The Giver. It's a YA book and describes exactly how our society is becoming. Pay attn to what happens as soon as one crosses the age threshold.

We are losing our humanity daily. No, your millennial kids will not be caring for you.

+1 I scream inwardly every time I read Carolyn Hax when she says " You don't owe your family your time or an explanation of why you won't be attending" etc. Same with people on DCUM who claim that being an island is a perfectly good way to live. I pity them. But there are STILL people who have retained their basic humanity. We're here.

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Anonymous wrote:Read The Giver. It's a YA book and describes exactly how our society is becoming. Pay attn to what happens as soon as one crosses the age threshold.

We are losing our humanity daily. No, your millennial kids will not be caring for you.

+1 I scream inwardly every time I read Carolyn Hax when she says " You don't owe your family your time or an explanation of why you won't be attending" etc. Same with people on DCUM who claim that being an island is a perfectly good way to live. I pity them. But there are STILL people who have retained their basic humanity. We're here.

If that’s how they’re happiest, why shouldn’t they live that way?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean the only way you can take care of the elderly is if you quit your job. They go to dozens of doctor appts and often can't be left alone. If there were daycare centers they could go to, that would be totally different and more manageable.

Ashamed day cares can be a lucrative business. Why aren’t there more of them?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean the only way you can take care of the elderly is if you quit your job. They go to dozens of doctor appts and often can't be left alone. If there were daycare centers they could go to, that would be totally different and more manageable.

Ashamed day cares can be a lucrative business. Why aren’t there more of them?

*adult day cares (grrr, autocorrect)

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Anonymous wrote:After 70 people should've option to end their lives in humane ways, instead of suffering and having the painful knowledge of being seen as a burden.

My thoughts exactly.